# Democrat Obstructionism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 23, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455 "2015-02-23T23:01:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/81 "2015-02-24T05:41:58Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > One half sentence and one link (invariably to a leftist website) is not a genuine OP. I didn’t realize he needed to get your approval before starting a thread. Seems to me that’s the job of the mods. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/82 "2015-02-24T05:47:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I didn’t realize he needed to get your approval before starting a thread. > Seems to me that’s the job of the mods. Unless you’re SDSAB. Then all bets are off. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/83 "2015-02-24T05:51:47Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Unless you’re SDSAB. Then all bets are off. I don’t think he claimed to be. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/84 "2015-02-24T06:08:52Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I don’t think he claimed to be. No, BG didn’t. But others are overstepping the boundaries. IMHO. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18155979&postcount=251](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18155979&postcount=251) And Una Persson, who recently signed a post “For the Straight Dope”. There was a thread, not more than a week or two ago, where it was stated that SDSAB doesn’t grant special powers. Why are Elendil and Una acting otherwise? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/85 "2015-02-24T06:12:41Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I’d love to see the Dems try to govern without the press in their pocket. I’d love to see Repubs try to govern. Period. Because when you send a bunch of people to Washington with the premise that government is bad, what a shock that they do their best to make sure that premise is accurate. Why, just see what this pinko liberal newspaper called “[The Governing Trap](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/392082/governing-trap-editors)” coming right out and admitting that Republicans shouldn’t try and accomplish anything, lest putting country in front of party actually do some good. Oh, wait, did I call that a pinko liberal newspaper? I meant The National Review. My bad. Even they know that Republicans don’t govern. Not anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/86 "2015-02-24T06:17:19Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > They have voted four times against funding the DHS. Is that obstruction, or not? That’s the debate. > > The House passed a bill. The Senate Democrats won’t even allow it to come to a vote. Is it Republican obstruction that has voted to repeal the ACA several times? I’m just asking to make sure that you stay consistent with your outrage. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/87 "2015-02-24T07:09:05Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Are you going to return to the credit card thread, or are you too embarrassed? I’d forgoten I posted in a credit card thread. I tracked it down and responded. In any case I’m not sure why that’s relevant to this thread and your assumptions of bias. Do you feel when you report people for posting incomplete debates those reports are overlooked by the mods because of bias? ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/88 "2015-02-24T07:26:12Z")
**D’Anconia:** Everyone knows the parties flip their “woe is us” rhetoric on legislative arcana depending on whether it helps or hurts them, or which party is in power. They even flip their stances on substantive issues, depending on how it plays. Remember when Dems were outraged by torture and spying? You can keep being cute with sarcastic mock outrage OPs and be surprised when you get dog piled. I’d restrain those types of posts as drive by snark instead of their own topic – works for me. Or you can try to be more thorough to expose the hypocrisy, or just focus on the actual point (immigration). You’d get a mixed response to that because there’s a lot of disaffected libs who hate the Dems, but still hate Pubs even more, but you’d probably get more people agreeing that legislative chicanery is afoot (the horror). You could also start a thread comparing the historical extent of each party’s obstructionism, and which is worse. I think you’d have problems convincing anyone the Pubs haven’t been more enthusiastic, or theirs hasn’t had actual negative effects on the country, but you’re welcome to try. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/89 "2015-02-24T08:00:23Z")
Oh, **D’Anconia** is trying; no doubt about that. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/90 "2015-02-24T09:37:13Z")
> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#): > > If you want to debate whether the conditions are good or not, why poison the well? Because he’s a stupid asshole. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/91 "2015-02-24T10:05:00Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Because they’re evil commie Muslims who hate America? You forgot godless, baby-killing, sexual perverts. Or are those considered “good” by the Movement now? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/92 "2015-02-24T11:53:25Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > One half sentence and one link (invariably to a leftist website) is not a genuine OP. No doubt, he’s an idiot and a sucky poster. But you should have higher goals for yourself than “as good as Brainglutton”. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/93 "2015-02-24T13:26:32Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > No doubt, he’s an idiot and a sucky poster. But you should have higher goals for yourself than “as good as Brainglutton”. True, that. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/94 "2015-02-24T14:19:25Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > Wait… D’Anconia trolls, and you’re SURPRISED? Shit, I haven’t seen a sincere post out of him YET. He trolls so hard that he has to hire a crew to demolish the bridges that spontaneously form above his house. Yes, I’m surprised. Well, disappointed would be a better word. I think he (or she) has been a valuable addition to the board, no matter that our political inclinations are near-opposites. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/95 "2015-02-24T15:04:06Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Unless you’re SDSAB. Then all bets are off. You don’t even know what this means. **BrainGlutton** isn’t SDSAB, and neither are most of the moderators. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/96 "2015-02-24T15:08:05Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Yes, I’m surprised. Well, disappointed would be a better word. I think he (or she) has been a valuable addition to the board, no matter that our political inclinations are near-opposites. Are you feeling okay? You seem feverish. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/97 "2015-02-24T15:20:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You don’t even know what this means. **BrainGlutton** isn’t SDSAB, and neither are most of the moderators. But the SDSAB aren’t moderators, correct? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/98 "2015-02-24T15:31:23Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > But the SDSAB aren’t moderators, correct? So why do we have one SDSAB telling other posters to take an argument to a different thread, and another SDSAB who signed her post “For the Straight Dope”? Isn’t that junior modding, by definition? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/99 "2015-02-24T15:34:24Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > But the SDSAB aren’t moderators, correct? Some are, some aren’t. I’m both SDSAB and a moderator. **Bricker** is SDSAB but not a moderator. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > So why do we have one SDSAB telling other posters to take an argument to a different thread, and another SDSAB who signed her post “For the Straight Dope”? > > Isn’t that junior modding, by definition? Links? I don’t think you have any idea what SDSAB means. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/100 "2015-02-24T15:39:08Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > It’s a superfluous Orwellian monstrosity created in the irrational, hysterical aftermath of 9/11 and may well be the totalitarian force that once and for all squashes the spirit of individualism amidst the foregone notion of limited government. > > We’ll see in about 50 years. Dude, you and I don’t agree on much, but yeah, pretty much this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455.md?page=6)