# Democrat Obstructionism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 23, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455 "2015-02-23T23:01:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/141 "2015-02-24T21:04:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > So I’d like to hear the names of a couple more of the cases you’re relying on. Hosanna-Tabor, for one. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/142 "2015-02-24T21:13:41Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I played keys for Rand’s Fanboys back in the day. > ('Course, eventually I realized I was just inherently better than the rest of the band and formed my own group, Gulch and the Galtones. We never had many gigs, because the commies and squishes and collectivists conspire to keep the entrepreneur from success in this feminized society. Now I mostly play in Mulligan’s Valley. Which is what I call my basement.) This post is brilliant! The OP not so much. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/143 "2015-02-24T21:15:42Z")
From the “How do I get my toddler to eat veggies?” thread, more unintentional irony: > [@How do I get my toddler to eat veggies?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-i-get-my-toddler-to-eat-veggies/713236/84): > > Please don’t raise a snowflake, we have enough of them, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/144 "2015-02-24T21:17:06Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, it wasn’t. The Tampa Bay Times is described as “an unusually liberal newspaper.” Try again. The _Tampa Bay Times_ is a nationally-respected newspaper owned by [a prestigious journalism school](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poynter_Institute), with a [huge trophy case of Pulitzers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Times#Awards_and_nominations). More to the point, there is nothing about the _Times_ to discredit [PolitiFact](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Times#Awards_and_nominations), which is what you appear to be attempting. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/145 "2015-02-24T21:21:08Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Hosanna-Tabor, for one. [This?](http://www.pewforum.org/2012/01/11/the-supreme-court-takes-up-church-employment-disputes-and-the-ministerial-exception/) It does not appear to touch at all on any question of presidential overreach. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/146 "2015-02-24T21:23:57Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Hosanna-Tabor, for one. How is that a repudiation of Obama? The EEOC is not Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/147 "2015-02-24T22:09:05Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Hosanna-Tabor, for one. For the benefit of readers, _Hosanna-Tabor_ involved one Cheryl Perich, a teacher employed by the Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School. Perich was fired was missing a large number of days of work due to, according to her, her narcolepsy. The school claimed that the basis for her firing was insubordination and legal threats. Perich was a “called minister,” and according to the school, someone whose religious teaching abaility was key to her job. They asserted that the First Amendment gave them the right to select and retain religious teachers for any reasons they wished. The EEOC sued Hosanna-Tabor on Perich’s behalf. The problem with your claim is that the EEOC sued Hosanna-Tabor on September 28, 2007. At this time, George W. Bush was the President. It’s true that by the time the Supreme Court weighed in on the issue, Barack Obama had succeeded Bush as chief executive. But Obama’s administration, at best, simply continued asserting a position that the government first took under President Bush. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/148 "2015-02-24T22:18:46Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > The problem with your claim is that the EEOC sued Hosanna-Tabor on September 28, 2007. > > At this time, George W. Bush was the President. > > It’s true that by the time the Supreme Court weighed in on the issue, Barack Obama had succeeded Bush as chief executive. But Obama’s administration, at best, simply continued asserting a position that the government first took under President Bush. Which appears to be the case in most cases cited as instances of the SCOTUS slapping down Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/149 "2015-02-24T22:20:14Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > its a gelatinous goo of stupid. 😉 I’m sure he’d call it Ambrosia. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/150 "2015-02-24T22:47:17Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Democratic. > > It’s the Democratic Party. > > Officially. > > Since 1844. Granted, there is **also** a [Democrat Party](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Democrat_Party). For certain values of “is.” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/151 "2015-02-24T22:55:53Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > The problem with your claim is that the EEOC sued Hosanna-Tabor on September 28, 2007. > > At this time, George W. Bush was the President. > > It’s true that by the time the Supreme Court weighed in on the issue, Barack Obama had succeeded Bush as chief executive. But Obama’s administration, at best, simply continued asserting a position that the government first took under President Bush. Was the Obama Administration legally obligated to defend the Bush Administration’s position? They stopped defending the DOMA, from the Clinton Administration, after all. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/152 "2015-02-24T23:00:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > How is that a repudiation of Obama? The EEOC is not Obama. The EEOC reports to Obama. So does the Solicitor General, who argued against Hosanna-Tabor. Doesn’t the buck stop there? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/153 "2015-02-24T23:04:17Z")
You are a very unique brand of stupid. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/154 "2015-02-24T23:06:35Z")
Well if “unique” is the correct word, let us count our blessings… ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/155 "2015-02-24T23:32:26Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Unconstitutional recess appointments, for one. You can google the rest. It doesn’t work that way, you made the claim, you back it up. Rhetoric doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/156 "2015-02-24T23:35:23Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > It doesn’t work that way, you made the claim, you back it up. Rhetoric doesn’t count. I did. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/157 "2015-02-24T23:43:45Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > I apologize to all simpletons for comparing them to this idiot. I know, someone earlier insulted loons by comparison to the OP… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/158 "2015-02-25T00:26:39Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > It doesn’t work that way, you made the claim, you back it up. Rhetoric doesn’t count. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I did. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What about all of the times he’s been overruled by the Supreme Court, 9-0? No, you haven’t backed that up yet; and it has already been decisively refuted. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/159 "2015-02-25T01:08:11Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > I’d love to see Repubs try to govern. Period. > > Because when you send a bunch of people to Washington with the premise that government is bad, what a shock that they do their best to make sure that premise is accurate. Oh, brother. Based on your posts that I can remember you actually believe this stupidity you write. Republicans don’t hate government. They view it as vital. Necessary. They just want it to be as small as it can be while still doing those things that government should do. They want to make it smaller. And that’s something everyone should want. The same way we should want as small an army as is practical. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/160 "2015-02-25T01:10:18Z")
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