# Democrat thuggery, Boston style.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797 "2010-01-13T17:23:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/21 "2010-01-13T18:06:11Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> **magellan01** , based on your thread title I have trouble believing you want to have a debate here. Moved to the BBQ Pit.

Unbelievable. The thread title was no more incendiary than many in GD. I laid out the facts as they are now available, specifically asked what others thought she be done and offered my opinion.

::shrug:: The SDMB moderation—as expected.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/22 "2010-01-13T18:07:49Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Your link doesn’t work.
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> In any case, why does this have anything to do with Coakley, whoever she may be? The “thug” gets assault and/or battery charges; the campaign goes on.

Where did I say or imply that this should reflect on Coakley in any way?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/23 "2010-01-13T18:08:50Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Well, you can debate whether or not he did anything wrong in getting in the reporter’s way. You can turn it into a debate on how a campaign should deal with media that’s hostile to them. You could debate whether or not this sort of minor violence in political campaigns is treated less harshly. You could discuss whether or not the fact that Boston is dominated by Democrats biases official response. I don’t know. The debate could go all sorts of different ways.

The OP only raised one point of debate: what should happen to Mr. Meehan.

ETA: **magellan** , you’re quite right. you did not specifically make that connection.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/24 "2010-01-13T18:09:15Z")

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> [@NicePete](#):
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> Well, that tears it. Due to the actions of this obscure campaign worker for some local candidate I never heard of, I shall never again vote for a Democrat. From now on I shall only support Republicans, no matter how inane, ill-conceived or downright evil their policies are.
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> Thank you, kind sir, for bringing this earth-shattering story to my attention.

So, it’s either never vote for a Dem again or make believe this didn’t happen. You just created an excluded middle that reaches infinity. Congratulations.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/25 "2010-01-13T18:09:25Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The OP specifically linked the thuggery to the political affiliation of the so-called thug. Any response that recognizes that is certainly appropriate.

What I mean, though, it’s possible to say, “The Democrats did something wrong” without jumping automatically to, “and therefore you should vote Republican.”

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/26 "2010-01-13T18:11:09Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The OP only raised two points of debate: what should happen to the campaign, and what should happen to Mr. Meehan.

Right, because on the Straight Dope everyone is very careful to stick to the OP’s topics of debate. And actually, the OP only raised the one point of debate, what should happen to Mr. Meehan. He didn’t ask what should happen to the campaign at all.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/27 "2010-01-13T18:11:48Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> So, it’s either never vote for a Dem again or make believe this didn’t happen. You just created an excluded middle that reaches infinity. Congratulations.

How about finding out what _did_ happen before labeling it “Democrat thuggery”?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/28 "2010-01-13T18:11:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The OP only raised two points of debate: what should happen to the campaign, and what should happen to Mr. Meehan.

Either your reading comprehension or counting is off. I was asking about what should happen to Meehan. Feel free to point to the other point you claim I was making.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/29 "2010-01-13T18:12:51Z")

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Hm. Link works for me now. Without sound it seems rather innocuous, and without seeing what the reporter was doing before he was impeded, I don’t see how you can reach any conclusion at all about Meehan’s behavior.

What was the reporter holding up?

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> Right, because on the Straight Dope everyone is very careful to stick to the OP’s topics of debate. And actually, the OP only raised the one point of debate, what should happen to Mr. Meehan. He didn’t ask what should happen to the campaign at all.

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> Either your reading comprehension or counting is off. I was asking about what should happen to Meehan. Feel free to point to the other point you claim I was making.

See edit.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/30 "2010-01-13T18:12:59Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> The thread title was no more incendiary than many in GD. I laid out the facts as they are now available, specifically asked what others thought she be done and offered my opinion.

I’m not wearing the mod hat at the moment, so I’ll tell you this is bullshit.

> [@magellan01](#):
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> Where did I say or imply that this should reflect on Coakley in any way?

What’s the title of this thread?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/31 "2010-01-13T18:13:25Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Unbelievable. The thread title was no more incendiary than many in GD. I laid out the facts as they are now available, specifically asked what others thought she be done and offered my opinion.
> 
> ::shrug:: The SDMB moderation—as expected.

Boo-fucking-hoo you unthinking partisan robot.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/32 "2010-01-13T18:15:28Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How about finding out what _did_ happen before labeling it “Democrat thuggery”?

Of course!:smack: Because no one ever creates a thread title based on the information available at the time. But I guess it’s hard to type and circle the wagons at the same time. Yee-hah!!!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/33 "2010-01-13T18:18:48Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> So, it’s either never vote for a Dem again or make believe this didn’t happen.

I got your back.

I fully plan on voting for many many Dems in the future AND I believe this happened (even though I can’t click the links right now … see, I’m taking your word for it).

Now what? Seriously, what would you expect an honorable Democrat to do and/or say?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/34 "2010-01-13T18:22:03Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Of course!:smack: Because no one ever creates a thread title based on the information available at the time. But I guess it’s hard to type and circle the wagons at the same time. Yee-hah!!!

Accuse First-Find Out Later.  
So how’s that working out for you so far?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/35 "2010-01-13T18:22:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’m not wearing the mod hat at the moment, so I’ll tell you this is bullshit.

Oh really, Mr. Mod Hat off. That why don’t you explain how what I wrote is bullshit.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> What’s the title of this thread?

You should look at it again. There is no mention of Coakley you dumb fuck. It has to do with an aid to a Boston democrat, does it not, you dumb-dumb? If I wanted to ask about the effect on Coakley I would have. I didn’t because I don’t see it as having anything to do with her. Some over-zealous aide pushes a reporter then impedes his progress…I don’t see how she’s to blame for that. How she handles this now, yes. But the incident, she’s in the clear.

Nice try though. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/36 "2010-01-13T18:24:32Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Boo-fucking-hoo you unthinking partisan robot.

Ha. As expected, the man without a mirror, Lobohan, enters a thread to call a conservative poster names. What other surprises might this day hold?!!!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/37 "2010-01-13T18:26:21Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Right, because on the Straight Dope everyone is very careful to stick to the OP’s topics of debate. And actually, the OP only raised the one point of debate, what should happen to Mr. Meehan. He didn’t ask what should happen to the campaign at all.

Thank you. I think it’s quite comical that people are in a tizzy about a question I didn’t raise. And some of them are calling ME partisan? Like I said, comical.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/38 "2010-01-13T18:28:38Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Where did I say or imply that this should reflect on Coakley in any way?

You certainly said or implied that this should reflect on Democrats in any way. The entire party! That’s much better.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/39 "2010-01-13T18:29:19Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Accuse First-Find Out Later.  
> So how’s that working out for you so far?

The guys a fucking thug. Period. Even IF he wasn’t the one who pushed him, he’s using his size to impede the reporter. But as it stands now, it appears that he IS the one who did the pushing. Guess you’d like to defend the other thug I cited, too, huh, Trail Boss?

Yee-fucking–hah!!!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/40 "2010-01-13T18:29:35Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Thank you. I think it’s quite comical that people are in a tizzy about a question I didn’t raise. And some of them are calling ME partisan? Like I said, comical.

Nothing partisan about “Democrat thuggery”-nosiree!

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