# Democrat thuggery, Boston style.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797 "2010-01-13T17:23:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/41 "2010-01-13T18:29:40Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> So, it’s either never vote for a Dem again or make believe this didn’t happen. You just created an excluded middle that reaches infinity. Congratulations.

OK, how about I phrase my point without that nasty ol’ sarcasm which hurts your widdle feelings so terribly.

I believe the actions of one staffer are his alone and are entirely irrelevant to the important policy considerations which should drive our political decision making. Further, I find that your choice of title for this topic is partisan to the point of absurdity.

How’s that, babykins?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/42 "2010-01-13T18:33:11Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> You certainly said or implied that this should reflect on Democrats in any way. The entire party! That’s much better.

Wow, I can smell the desperation. I did not say nor imply any such thing. In fact, I asked SPECIFICALLY what this should mean for Meehan. The fact that you contort my OP with your poor reading and seemingly completely ignore my further explanation in Post 35 demonstrates that you are simply choosing to be a dick.

Well, all that practice you must have been doing has paid off handsomely.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/43 "2010-01-13T18:33:12Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> The guys a fucking thug. Period.

No, a thug is a young black male wearing a hoodie. This guy’s just a douche, at worst.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/44 "2010-01-13T18:35:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Nothing partisan about “Democrat thuggery”-nosiree!

Is he a democrat? Is he a thug? There ARE republican thugs, I guess. Show me one who throws someone to the ground and I’ll describe him and his actions as such. This really isn’t that difficult.

Yee-hah!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/45 "2010-01-13T18:37:15Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Oh really, Mr. Mod Hat off. That why don’t you explain how what I wrote is bullshit.

Because it’s false, and because I don’t believe you’re so unintelligent that you have forgotten what you wrote an hour ago in the OP. There are a couple of people here who are clever enough to be kind of successful with this kind of nonsense, but you’re not one of them.

There’s no shortage of partisanship in Great Debates, that’s for sure. But your thread and your title were both ludicrous and I don’t believe you thought there was any kind of serious debate about what should happen in this case. You were looking for a cheap political score. You can get that in the Pit if you like, but it’s not a debate.

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> There is no mention of Coakley you dumb fuck.

Curses, foiled again! Wait a minute, maybe **magellan01** will hand me a lifeline…

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> It has to do with an aid to a Boston democrat, does it not, you dumb-dumb?

Who is the Boston democrat?

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> If I wanted to ask about the effect on Coakley I would have.

And if you wanted to engage in a spectacularly naked and ineffective bit of partisan hackery, you would have… started this thread, complete with “democrat” in the title.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/46 "2010-01-13T18:38:00Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> There’s no logical reason to blame this on Coakley, but that goes without saying, I think.  
> Oh, I know this is gonna be good…  
> If the reporter was bothering Coakley at her home, you would probably still be wrong but you’d at least have a point. Coakley’s a candidate for the U.S. Senate and she’s out in public, taking questions from the media. The guy did nothing unusual or wrong. He asked her a question she didn’t want to answer and one of her people decided to go Tammany Hall on the guy. Taking a few steps in someone’s direction when they walk away is not being a rabid hyena.

Hmmm…defending journalistic integrity to get my attention! Do you have a little crush on me?.

ps. Also, remind me where it says that political candidates are obliged to answer questions on the street.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/47 "2010-01-13T18:39:16Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> …You can’t see the actual push, but you can see the thug, Michael Meehan, continue to attempt to impede the reporter. The AP confirms that the person who did the initial pushing was Meehan. …

I can’t find any such AP story. I do find one that says he fell. Can you provide a link?

Also, I find it interesting that we both agree that you can’t see McCormack being pushed in the video, but [Fox has the story](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/13/reporter-conservative-magazine-attacked-outside-democratic-fundraiser/)with this headline:

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> Weekly Standard Reporter Attacked Outside of Democratic Fundraiser

And the story links to the exact same video but says this:

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> …longtime Democratic strategist Michael Meehan was caught on videotape shoving a reporter for the Weekly Standard into a metal railing, …

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/48 "2010-01-13T18:42:28Z")

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> [@NicePete](#):
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> OK, how about I phrase my point without that nasty ol’ sarcasm which hurts your widdle feelings so terribly.
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> I believe the actions of one staffer are his alone and are entirely irrelevant to the important policy considerations which should drive our political decision making. Further, I find that your choice of title for this topic is partisan to the point of absurdity.
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> How’s that, babykins?

Man you’re an ass. YOU make a ridiculous statement in an attempt to paint me as extreme. I point out your stupidity, you acknowledge it while trying to hide behind hyperbole, which if you do so, means you had nothing to say in the first place.

Now you offer your opinion on a tangent, which is basically the same as what I said it Post 35, but completely ignore the question that WAS asked in the OP, i.e., “what should happen to Meehan?”

I see that you find this whole debate thing difficult, and that’s okay. But you simply must try harder.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/49 "2010-01-13T18:45:42Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Hm. Link works for me now. Without sound it seems rather innocuous, and without seeing what the reporter was doing before he was impeded, I don’t see how you can reach any conclusion at all about Meehan’s behavior.
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> What was the reporter holding up?

_ahem_

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/50 "2010-01-13T18:47:09Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Ha. As expected, the man without a mirror, Lobohan, enters a thread to call a conservative poster names. What other surprises might this day hold?!!!

Not a conservative poster. A stupid, knuckle-dragging coward who views the world through a rigid partisan lens and then is unwilling to be enough of a man to stand by his bullshit assertions.

Kicking a foot back and pointing at your chin with a “who, little-old-me?” isn’t fooling anyone. If you want to act like a moron don’t feign indignation when someone points it out.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/51 "2010-01-13T18:49:12Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Wow, I can smell the desperation. I did not say nor imply any such thing. In fact, I asked SPECIFICALLY what this should mean for Meehan. The fact that you contort my OP with your poor reading and seemingly completely ignore my further explanation in Post 35 demonstrates that you are simply choosing to be a dick.
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> Well, all that practice you must have been doing has paid off handsomely.

Why is your thread title “Democrat thuggery” as opposed to “Meehan thuggery”?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/52 "2010-01-13T18:50:46Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I got your back.
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> I fully plan on voting for many many Dems in the future AND I believe this happened (even though I can’t click the links right now … see, I’m taking your word for it).
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> Now what? Seriously, what would you expect an honorable Democrat to do and/or say?

Well, I’d expect them to say the same thing I’d say if the tables were turned. The thug should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. As I offered in my OP, which most people haven’t bothered to answer. (Which I find thoroughly sad, if not entertaining.)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/53 "2010-01-13T18:50:55Z")

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It almost sounds like something from a Chinese restaurant menu. “You want Democwat thuggewy? Boston style or Kowloon style?”

> [@magellan01](#):
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> Well, I’d expect them to say the same thing I’d say if the tables were turned. The thug should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. As I offered in my OP, which most people haven’t bothered to answer. (Which I find thoroughly sad, if not entertaining.)

Since there’s no evidence that he actually committed a crime, he shouldn’t be arrested.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/54 "2010-01-13T18:51:56Z")

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But instead you got what you wanted … all the mean old liberals pissing on your obvious partisan hackery.

Win - win, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/55 "2010-01-13T18:55:39Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Well, I’d expect them to say the same thing I’d say if the tables were turned. The thug should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. As I offered in my OP, which most people haven’t bothered to answer. (Which I find thoroughly sad, if not entertaining.)

Can you show us evidence that would point to the need for his arrest?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/56 "2010-01-13T18:55:56Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Wow, I can smell the desperation…

We were too polite to mention it, but, yes, your Huggies could use changing.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/57 "2010-01-13T18:58:35Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Not a conservative poster. A stupid, knuckle-dragging coward who views the world through a rigid partisan lens and then is unwilling to be enough of a man to stand by his bullshit assertions.
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> Kicking a foot back and pointing at your chin with a “who, little-old-me?” isn’t fooling anyone. If you want to act like a moron don’t feign indignation when someone points it out.

You really are an jerkoff with zero self-awareness. You continuously hurl ad hominems on these boards, calling people dumb, stupid, moronic, knee-jerk, etc., etc. As if you think you’re Stephen Hawking. But I can only assume you’re an imbecile, because I can’t recall you contributing to debate, just resorting to sticking your tongue out and spewing insults at posters. This is what you do. Are you truly not aware of it. Are you that far gone?

Either way, that is why you can string together an insult of Proustian length and it wouldn’t matter. Because you are what you profess to despise.

And that is just so fucking righteous. The fact that you’re so unaware of it is just the cherry on top. Keep up the good work.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/58 "2010-01-13T19:03:25Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It almost sounds like something from a Chinese restaurant menu. “You want Democwat thuggewy? Boston style or Kowloon style?”
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> Since there’s no evidence that he actually committed a crime, he shouldn’t be arrested.

Sigh. From the OP: (bolding added)

[QUOTE=magellan01]  
**Assuming thing are as they appear** , what should happen to Meehan? Should nothing happen, like nothing happened to this other democrat thug?

[/QUOTE]

We’re not the detectives on the case, we’re a bunch of people on a debate board. We deal in the conditional all the time.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/59 "2010-01-13T19:07:38Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> But instead you got what you wanted … all the mean old liberals pissing on your obvious partisan hackery.
> 
> Win - win, I guess.

Actually, just one win: another piece of evidence as to how left-partisan so many on these boards are. I guess there is probably another win. That being that lurkers will see how a pretty simple question in an OP that makes a democrat look bad gets responded to.

So, I guess you’re right: win-win.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/60 "2010-01-13T19:08:34Z")

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_Assuming things are as they appear_, he _still_ shouldn’t be arrested, since we have no evidence that a crime was committed.

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