# Democrat thuggery, Boston style. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797 "2010-01-13T17:23:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/141 "2010-01-14T03:40:23Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Does it often come to mind when the people you get your marching orders from use the word “thuggery”? Marching orders? I thought it was talking points. Oh, well… > [@Czarcasm](#): > > By the way-“Democratic”, not “Democrat”. If you want to pretend that you are engaging in an honest debate, you might want to leave the juvenile buzzwords at home. I had democratic, and it seemed wrong. It still does, but I don’t know why. Maybe because it sounds like a process of thuggery. I see why you suggest democratic, but I’m still not sure which is right. Or if democrat is wrong. Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Vambo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/6de8d8/32.png) [@Vambo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vambo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/142 "2010-01-14T03:48:00Z")
I thought Cheney had a law passed a few years ago so that legally you can kick them??? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/143 "2010-01-14T05:19:58Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Marching orders? I thought it was talking points. Oh, well… > > I had democratic, and it seemed wrong. It still does, but I don’t know why. Maybe because it sounds like a process of thuggery. I see why you suggest democratic, but I’m still not sure which is right. Or if democrat is wrong. Anyone? If you can’t figure it out for yourself, I guess you might as well just cut and paste it from your morning memos-by this time, it’s all we really expect from you. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/144 "2010-01-14T05:24:30Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > … I had democratic, and it seemed wrong. It still does, but I don’t know why. Maybe because it sounds like a process of thuggery. I see why you suggest democratic, but I’m still not sure which is right. Or if democrat is wrong. Anyone? > [@](#): > > [_democrat_](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democrat) > > –noun > > 1. an advocate of democracy. > 2. (initial capital letter) Politics. > Xa. a member of the Democratic party. > > [_republican_](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/republican+) > > –noun > 5. a person who favors a republican form of government. > 6. (initial capital letter) a member of the Republican party. > [@](#): > > … Sometimes the same word can function as both a common noun and a proper noun, where one such entity is special. For example the common noun god denotes all deities, while the proper noun God references a monotheistic God specifically. …[RIGHT][CITE](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_noun#Proper_nouns_and_common_nouns)[/RIGHT] > [@magellan01](#): > > … Through what non-rationale thinkiing process do I to score well enough on moderated IQ tests to qualify for clubs beyond Mensa? What processes did I use to get maximum scores on tests for Officer Training school? … :dubious: But somehow ya missed that whole common noun/proper noun thing? ^ I have a rational rationale for believing this … I think. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/145 "2010-01-14T05:29:09Z")
> [@](#): > > …What processes did I use to get maximum scores on tests for Officer Training school? … Doug Niedermeyer? Is that you? Man, we heard you got fragged… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/146 "2010-01-14T07:56:31Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Evidently, a Weekly Standard reporter was pushed to the ground by someone affiliated with the Martha Coakley campaign. Here is an article with video: > > [http://bostonherald.com.nyud.net/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1225332](http://bostonherald.com.nyud.net/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1225332) I can’tfind a video in that link. A litle help? > [@magellan01](#): > > Assuming thing are as they appear, what should happen to Meehan? Should nothing happen, like nothing happened to [this other democrat thug?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-34E-yJxz4) I didn’t see anything happen there, either, except the video highlighted that a man was holding a baton. > [@magellan01](#): > > Just came across [this.](http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/section/breakingnews) He tripped, of course. That video isn’t showing me anyone falling or anything. It does show a man seeming to run interference against another man. P.S. OP _Democrat_ is a noun; _Democratic_ is an adjective. Therefore, it would be correct grammar to speak of a “Democratic thug,” or a “thuggish Democrat.” I mean, if it’s important to you to point it out every time you see a thug who is a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/147 "2010-01-14T09:49:59Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Evidently, a Weekly Standard reporter was pushed to the ground by someone affiliated with the Martha Coakley campaign. Here is an article with video: > > [http://bostonherald.com.nyud.net/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1225332](http://bostonherald.com.nyud.net/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1225332) > > You can’t see the actual push, but you can see the thug, Michael Meehan, continue to attempt to impede the reporter. The AP confirms that the person who did the initial pushing was Meehan. > > Assuming thing are as they appear, what should happen to Meehan? Should nothing happen, like nothing happened to [this other democrat thug?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-34E-yJxz4) > > I think he should immediately be arrested and prosecuted as severely as the law permits. > > You? > Just came across [this.](http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/section/breakingnews) He tripped, of course. > [@magellan01](#): > > You really need help. You accuse ME of hiding under “attack posts”? That’s all you ever do. But here’s a chance to step up to the plate for once: simply explain—in detail—what makes my OP “silly”. It’s a partisan hackjob. You don’t think for yourself. You spit out what others tell you and call it news. You are a drone. A particularly unimaginative and barely functional one. > [@](#): > > Also, what am I “lying” about. Be specific, you know so I and others can see if your charge might have real merit or it’s just you spewing your usual mindless attacks. You are specifically lying by not being man enough to admit that you were posting a one dimensional partisan rant with the word “debate” lightly scrawled across the top in pencil. > [@](#): > > We’ve already dealt with the “stupid” accusation and the “irrational” one. Not at all. You have been shown to be subnormal and that you lack what most would consider to be a common ability to parse reality. You live in a fantasy world of partisanship because the real world scares you too much. Like I say, your fear (and homophobia) are what define you. Keep hiding under the kitchen table moron. > [@](#): > > Try to keep up. Is that what the \*special \*teachers would tell you while you kept scrawling “cArTEr iS a fUckInG liBeRaL” over and over on your SATs? 😃 > [@](#): > > What it comes down to is me holding opinions that are quite conservative and a board that skews heavily the other way. What it is about is you holding quite consiverative views and then being utterly unable to justify them. You don’t debate. You restate. Your version of winning a debate is posting the same thing ten thousand times. Like I say, you’re a stupid fuck. > [@](#): > > I 'm tickle that you don’t see that possibility and must repeatedly kneejerk into calling me and other conservative posters stupid, morons, etc. I call people morons when they can’t substantiate their claims. Like you. And on top of that, you claim victory while stumbling around with a bloody nose. You’re honestly pathetic. > [@](#): > > Also, what part of my OP demonstrates “ignorance”? Again, please be specific. Well the Democrat thing is up there. Not to mention you didn’t bother to check your facts before creating a thread denouncing “Democrat Thugs” and trying to paint a picture of a larger democratic web of evil stiff-armers. You are literally mentally deficient. And you shouldn’t be posting on a site about reducing ignorance. You simply don’t belong here. You’re a creature that breathes and excretes ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/148 "2010-01-14T09:56:31Z")
Ouch. THAT is a proper ass kicking. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/149 "2010-01-14T14:04:05Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > It’s a partisan hackjob. You don’t think for yourself. You spit out what others tell you and call it news. You are a drone. A particularly unimaginative and barely functional one. Who tells me these things? I read an article about the incident and wanted to see what Dopers thought. I did a search and nothing came up, so I asked the question in my own thread. In case you didn’t know, that’s how this board operates. Just because someone brings something to light that you’d rather close your eyes to, doesn’t mean they are a drone. And actually, part of what I get paid well for is to use my imagination. So you’re off on that one, too. > [@Lobohan](#): > > You are specifically lying by not being man enough to admit that you were posting a one dimensional partisan rant with the word “debate” lightly scrawled across the top in pencil. This doesn’t even make sense. You may want to look up the word “lie” before you hurl it willy-nilly. Could my OP be construed as partisan? Sure. Because it involved an aide to the democratic candidate for a senate seat. That and people like you who jerk to excuse anything that puts his side in a bad light. > [@Lobohan](#): > > Not at all. You have been shown to be subnormal and that you lack what most would consider to be a common ability to parse reality. You live in a fantasy world of partisanship because the real world scares you too much. I’m not sure if I find you more sad or more comical. You keep spewing nonsense like this without seeing that YOU are the perfect example of what you profess to despise. You just can’t see it because your so so blinded by your partisanship. I’ll go with sadly comical. > [@Lobohan](#): > > Like I say, your fear (and homophobia) are what define you. Keep hiding under the kitchen table moron. Ah, here it is again: my stance on SSM. I’m the homophobe who wants completely equal rights (including the right to adopt), but also wants to reserve the word “marriage”. Oh, I’m SO hateful and afeared, after having chosen to move to that hotbed of homosexual hate, San Francisco. > [@Lobohan](#): > > What it is about is you holding quite consiverative views and then being utterly unable to justify them. You don’t debate. You restate. Your version of winning a debate is posting the same thing ten thousand times. Like I say, you’re a stupid fuck. First, I don’t think of “winning” debates here on the SDMB. I think of it as having a discussion, sharing views. I hold many conservative views. The reasons for which people like you have already heard, and have found unconvincing. It’s the same in reverse. But just because you cannot convince me to view things the way you do, that does not make you stupid. People have different world views, for a million different reasons, and there are people much smarter than you or and I that hold views we don’t agree with. Are they all stupid? Not in my world. What IS stupid is your calling someone else stupid because he or she cannot convince you to change your mind. But this is what you do. It is what you are. The very thing you say you despise. Like I’ve said before, you need to reflect. I think, seriously, you need professional help. Just try to recall the number of the times you’ve attacked posters for being stupid, moronic, etc. I can think of no one who does it more than you, and to more people. If you think I’m wrong, point to that poster. Think of ten people who are substantially smarter than you (assuming you think they exist). Now if one or two of them holds a view counter to yours on say abortion, or SSM, and they are unable to convince you to switch your position, do they magically turn into idiots and morons. The way I’ve seen you operate, the answer would have to be yes. And that is why you are such a colossal asshole. That is why you need help. That is why you need to talk to someone and reflect a little. I offer to you the advice that was inscribed on the Oracle at Delphi: Know thyself. If you need a little help in that quest, there is no shame in that. Just think, you might be successful and realize that your an asshole, then you can begin to change. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/150 "2010-01-14T14:05:21Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I didn’t see anything happen there, either, except the video highlighted that a man was holding a baton. Yeah, at a polling place. That’s voter intimidation, a crime. The man had to be removed. Charges were filed, but the case was surprisingly dismissed. [You can read about it here.](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/09/inquiry-opened-about-new-black-panther-case/) > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > That video isn’t showing me anyone falling or anything. It does show a man seeming to run interference against another man. I think that’s putting it excessively mildly. I think **Mithril’s** take on things is the fair one. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/151 "2010-01-14T14:34:22Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > First, I don’t think of “winning” debates here on the SDMB. I think of it as having a discussion, sharing views. I hold many conservative views. If you want a “discussion” don’t start withe “democratic thuggery”. Assuming you’re not a complete fuckwit, you had to know that that was going to start a shitstorm, not a reasoned discussion. I think you knew exactly what you were doing and fully expected this thread to end up in the pit. > [@](#): > > I offer to you the advice that was inscribed on the Oracle at Delphi: Know thyself. If you need a little help in that quest, there is no shame in that. Just think, you might be successful and realize that your an asshole, then you can begin to change. You’re acting like just as much of an asshole as anyone else in this thread. In fact, you were the proto-asshole in this thread when you started it. You hardly have room to call anyone else out for being an asshole. Perhaps next time you want to start a “discussion”, you can try starting one with out partisan rhetoric. Or not, if you’re just going to be a shit stirrer. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/152 "2010-01-14T15:45:42Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I think that’s putting it excessively mildly. I think **Mithril’s** take on things is the fair one. So do I - but sticking out an arm hardly rises to the level of “thuggery”. ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/153 "2010-01-14T16:05:02Z")
So I’m to understand that there’s so much thuggery on the part of Democrats, that not only has the phenomena acquired a name, but there are distinct regional varieties. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/154 "2010-01-14T16:06:57Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > If you want a “discussion” don’t start withe “democratic thuggery”. Technically, he didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/155 "2010-01-14T16:10:06Z")
> [@sqweels](#): > > So I’m to understand that there’s so much thuggery on the part of Democrats, that not only has the phenomena acquired a name, but there are distinct regional varieties. Oh, definitely! Around here, for instance, it involves an overly generous helping of hot dish. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/156 "2010-01-14T16:18:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > So do I - but sticking out an arm hardly rises to the level of “thuggery”. Oh come on, he did more than that. He was blocking the man from passing, constantly putting himself int the man’s way. You say you agree with **Mithril’s** position, but I don’t think what you offer here does. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/157 "2010-01-14T16:25:52Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh come on, he did more than that. He was blocking the man from passing, constantly putting himself int the man’s way. You say you agree with **Mithril’s** position, but I don’t think what you offer here does. Was that not his job? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/158 "2010-01-14T16:31:01Z")
It’s the reporter’s own fault for failing to stay within the Free Speech Zone. Also: what **Driver8** and **Mithril** said. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/159 "2010-01-14T16:31:35Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh come on, he did more than that. He was blocking the man from passing, constantly putting himself int the man’s way. You say you agree with **Mithril’s** position, but I don’t think what you offer here does. So what? Security personnel do that all the time. Would you be okay with it if he had a utility belt and a had with a badge on? Anyway, as I noted before, the video doesn’t show what the reporter was doing. I have every reason to believe he was harrassing the candidate, since by his own admission she didn’t seem to mind just ignoring his questions earlier on. ETA: For the record, I agree with you about the black-panthers-at-polling-station thing. I expected a more thorough investigation. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/160 "2010-01-14T16:38:47Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Technically, he didn’t. Oh, sorry, _Democrat_ thuggery. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797.md?page=9)