# Democrat thuggery, Boston style.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797 "2010-01-13T17:23:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/161 "2010-01-14T16:59:17Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Who tells me these things? I read an article about the incident and wanted to see what Dopers thought.

No you wanted to score partisan points.

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> I did a search and nothing came up, so I asked the question in my own thread. In case you didn’t know, that’s how this board operates. Just because someone brings something to light that you’d rather close your eyes to, doesn’t mean they are a drone. And actually, part of what I get paid well for is to use my imagination. So you’re off on that one, too.

You get over-paid to use your imagination, no matter what your wage. You’re an idiot.

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> This doesn’t even make sense. You may want to look up the word “lie” before you hurl it willy-nilly. Could my OP be construed as partisan? Sure. Because it involved an aide to the democratic candidate for a senate seat. That and people like you who jerk to excuse anything that puts his side in a bad light.

Sure thing, liar. Duck, weave, dodge, ignore.

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> I’m not sure if I find you more sad or more comical. You keep spewing nonsense like this without seeing that YOU are the perfect example of what you profess to despise. You just can’t see it because your so so blinded by your partisanship. I’ll go with sadly comical.

You are the one who blindly and stupidly partisan snipes for no reason. Your utter unwillingness to face criticism and respond with logic marks you as a frightened, angry child.

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> Ah, here it is again: my stance on SSM. I’m the homophobe who wants completely equal rights (including the right to adopt), but also wants to reserve the word “marriage”. Oh, I’m SO hateful and afeared, after having chosen to move to that hotbed of homosexual hate, San Francisco.

Your life is predicated on cowardice and fear. Take your comments about anal penetration earlier in this very thread. And you won’t stand up for your beliefs, you play pathetic games of “who, me?” and deflect. You’d rather seem right than be right. That makes you a sad fucking sack.

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> First, I don’t think of “winning” debates here on the SDMB. I think of it as having a discussion, sharing views.

Ha! Yes, your perfectly reasoned policy piece on Democrat Thugs was a real eye-opener. You fucking failure. 😃

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> I hold many conservative views. The reasons for which people like you have already heard, and have found unconvincing. It’s the same in reverse. But just because you cannot convince me to view things the way you do, that does not make you stupid.

I know mine don’t. I’ve actually thought about them and are totally willing to change them when presented with facts and logic. You however chose them, perhaps with a spinning wheel and will never-ever consider changing one of yours. We are entitled to our own opinions, but we share the facts. And logic is what smart people use to evaluate those facts and form opinions. Which is why you’re a stupid fuck for internalizing whatever tripe you hear on Drudge as the beat to march to.

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> People have different world views, for a million different reasons, and there are people much smarter than you or and I that hold views we don’t agree with. Are they all stupid? Not in my world. What IS stupid is your calling someone else stupid because he or she cannot convince you to change your mind. But this is what you do. It is what you are.

Not at all. I expect to have to justify my policy views. You don’t. You’re a fan of the right. You don’t know why, but fuck-a-duck, they’re your team and you’re gonna show up at the game with your sloppy gut painted in the colors.

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> The very thing you say you despise. Like I’ve said before, you need to reflect. I think, seriously, you need professional help. Just try to recall the number of the times you’ve attacked posters for being stupid, moronic, etc. I can think of no one who does it more than you, and to more people. If you think I’m wrong, point to that poster.

I couldn’t tell you. I will tell you that as far as I know, I haven’t said that to someone who wasn’t actually, you know, being stupid.

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> Think of ten people who are substantially smarter than you (assuming you think they exist). Now if one or two of them holds a view counter to yours on say abortion, or SSM, and they are unable to convince you to switch your position, do they magically turn into idiots and morons.

If your view is worth holding you can explain why you hold it. Otherwise it is a preference, and fine. However, you have not explained why you are against SSM, other than to stutter some foolishness about the perfect-majesty of words or some-such silly crap. A person can have whatever preference they like, but if you advocate removing rights from someone else, you’d better have a logical reason. And that you prefer it if gays don’t get something called “marriage” isn’t a valid reason. Numbnut.

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> The way I’ve seen you operate, the answer would have to be yes. And that is why you are such a colossal asshole. That is why you need help. That is why you need to talk to someone and reflect a little.

Speaking of colossal assholes, why are you so fixated on extreme anal penetrations in this thread?

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> I offer to you the advice that was inscribed on the Oracle at Delphi: Know thyself. If you need a little help in that quest, there is no shame in that. Just think, you might be successful and realize that your an asshole, then you can begin to change.

I’ll leave the assessment of my asshole state to the peanut gallery. However, I \*know \*that you’re a partisan shit and you tapdance like Shirley Temple on fire, but in the end, you lie, deflect and run like the worthless drone you are.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/162 "2010-01-14T17:07:46Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> So what? Security personnel do that all the time. Would you be okay with it if he had a utility belt and a had with a badge on?

No, that’s not what they do. Security people do not push reporters to the ground. And after viewing this again, it appears that IS what Meehan did. You can see it at about :05 in [the video.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CdfQGlgVw) Neither do they physically deter a reporter from walking down the street holding a tape recorder above his head. The fact that all this is routinely NOT done is corroborated by the fact that Meehan has apologized for his behavior, as lame and dishonest as it is.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Anyway, as I noted before, the video doesn’t show what the reporter was doing. I have every reason to believe he was harrassing the candidate, since by his own admission she didn’t seem to mind just ignoring his questions earlier on.

I don’t know what he was doing beforehand, but he was trying to ask her questions, following her at a respectful distance while holding the tape recorder over his head.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> ETA: For the record, I agree with you about the black-panthers-at-polling-station thing. I expected a more thorough investigation.

I’m glad to hear it.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/163 "2010-01-14T17:18:49Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> So I’m to understand that there’s so much thuggery on the part of Democrats, that not only has the phenomena acquired a name, but there are distinct regional varieties.

Democratic thuggery of 17th-19th century India was particularly notorious. Those bastards would rip our your heart and show it to you.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/164 "2010-01-14T17:23:15Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> No, that’s not what they do. Security people do not push reporters to the ground.

It’s an honest mistake - **RNATB** may be thinking of the [police](http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/07/video-g20-police-assault) instead.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/165 "2010-01-14T17:27:56Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Democratic thuggery of 17th-19th century India was particularly notorious. Those bastards would rip our your heart and show it to you.

The refined and gentlemanly thuggery of the late 19th century was really the high-point of the art. Democrats would advance in tophats and spats with thugging-batons held high and gleaming. It was like a ballet. Alas, the sweet-science of Democratic Thuggery has degenerated to such an extent that some fool reporter falling over a partition is considered worthy of the name.

☹

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/166 "2010-01-14T17:50:48Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> No you wanted to score partisan points.

How? And with whom?

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You get over-paid to use your imagination, no matter what your wage. You’re an idiot.

So the Fortune 500 companies that hire me—repeatedly—for this inflated wage are even stupider, right? Either that or there is a flaw in your thinking. But, it surely can’t be THAT.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Sure thing, liar. Duck, weave, dodge, ignore.

Again, point to this lie—you know, the falsity I uttered which I knew to be false. Man you’re lame. You just can’t stop yourself from attacking the person. Pathetic.

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I will ask you again: If you’d like to continue with how stupid I am, please open a pit thread of your own and we can continue the discussion of my stupidity versus yours there. In this thread, I still await your answer the question in the OP. Others have managed to answer, but not you.

I would ask the mods to

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You are the one who blindly and stupidly partisan snipes for no reason. Your utter unwillingness to face criticism and respond with logic marks you as a frightened, angry child.

Let me get this straight: I blindly and stupidly partisan snipe, yet I do it via lying and do it to score partisan points. Seems a bit of a contradiction, don’t you think? Pathetic.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Your life is predicated on cowardice and fear. Take your comments about anal penetration earlier in this very thread.

So, now you know about my life? Man, you’re good… :rolleyes: And, yeah, take my comments about me not being anally penetrated. You find something wrong with using the passage for what evolution created it for? Odd. Quite odd.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> And you won’t stand up for your beliefs, you play pathetic games of “who, me?” and deflect. You’d rather seem right than be right. That makes you a sad fucking sack.

Here’s that sad comedy that is you coming through again. I’ve argued for pages and pages on these boards defending my opinions on SSM and illegal immigration to a hostile majority, to name just two issues. And that’s not standing up for one’s beliefs? maybe you’re using a different dictionary or something. Either that or you are simply wrong. HEAVENS!

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I know mine don’t. I’ve actually thought about them and are totally willing to change them when presented with facts and logic. You however chose them, perhaps with a spinning wheel and will never-ever consider changing one of yours.

This is patently false. My stance on gays in the military, for instance. So, sorry, wrong again.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> We are entitled to our own opinions, but we share the facts. And logic is what smart people use to evaluate those facts and form opinions. Which is why you’re a stupid fuck for internalizing whatever tripe you hear on Drudge as the beat to march to.

Here’s the crux of the problem (I mean, aside from you just being a colossal asshole), social issues are not like math. You can prove that 2+2=4. You cannot prove that abortion, open borders, legalizing SSM is a good thing or a bad thing. You look at the information and put it through the filter of the values instilled in you over many years. I look at, say, the abortion issue, and come to a conclusion that I think makes the most sense for our society. I know that others who disagree with me do the same calculation. It doesn’t make them stupid or bad people. I realize that they are starting with a different set of assumptions that I am. That they have a different hierarchy of what is most important. You don’t understand that. You demonstrate time and again that you get frustrated with people who don’t see things the way they should and you then spew the ad hominems. Curiously, do you think that is helpful in any way? To the debate? To having them see things more the way you do. It’s counter productive and imbecilic. As I said. You are what you despise. And man, that is sweet.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Not at all. I expect to have to justify my policy views. You don’t.

Now, in true fashion for he who is what he professes to despises, you’re lying here. Either that or you have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve justified my thinking on hundreds and hundreds of pages.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I couldn’t tell you. I will tell you that as far as I know, I haven’t said that to someone who wasn’t actually, you know, being stupid.

So, you admit that you can think of no one who attacks posters with claims that they are stupid, moronic, etc., more than you. Think about that. It should tell you something.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> If your view is worth holding you can explain why you hold it. Otherwise it is a preference, and fine. However, you have not explained why you are against SSM, other than to stutter some foolishness about the perfect-majesty of words or some-such silly crap. A person can have whatever preference they like, but if you advocate removing rights from someone else, you’d better have a logical reason. And that you prefer it if gays don’t get something called “marriage” isn’t a valid reason. Numbnut.

Again, and unsurprisingly, you’re plainly wrong. I have explained why I am against SSM numerous times. Do a search and I’m sure you can find many threads in which I have. And _one_ where I intentionally chose to ask questions and not provide answers. What I have not done is supplied a reason that you and others might consider worthy. It’s not the same thing. Do you really not see that?

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Speaking of colossal assholes, why are you so fixated on extreme anal penetrations in this thread?

I’m not fixated, and I’m not the one that brought it up. Though it does come to mind every time I see your name pop up.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I’ll leave the assessment of my asshole state to the peanut gallery. However, I \*know \*that you’re a partisan shit and you tapdance like Shirley Temple on fire, but in the end, you lie, deflect and run like the worthless drone you are.

AGAIN, what you say should have some bearing in reality. Even your personal attacks. I’ve been accused of not letting an issue drop and defending it to the end, and now that I run away. It’s all so confusing.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/167 "2010-01-14T17:57:48Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> If you want a “discussion” don’t start withe “democratic thuggery”. Assuming you’re not a complete fuckwit, you had to know that that was going to start a shitstorm, not a reasoned discussion.

😕

Why in the world would you assume something like that?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/168 "2010-01-14T18:01:37Z")

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\*Mods,

I made a mistake in the previous post and missed the edit window. Can you delete it. This one has the message under the horizontal line at the bottom as it should. Thank you.\*

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> No you wanted to score partisan points.

How? And with whom?

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You get over-paid to use your imagination, no matter what your wage. You’re an idiot.

So the Fortune 500 companies that hire me—repeatedly—for this inflated wage are even stupider, right? Either that or there is a flaw in your thinking. But, it surely can’t be THAT.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Sure thing, liar. Duck, weave, dodge, ignore.

Again, point to this lie—you know, the falsity I uttered which I knew to be false. Man you’re lame. You just can’t stop yourself from attacking the person. Pathetic.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You are the one who blindly and stupidly partisan snipes for no reason. Your utter unwillingness to face criticism and respond with logic marks you as a frightened, angry child.

Let me get this straight: I blindly and stupidly partisan snipe, yet I do it via lying and do it to score partisan points. Seems a bit of a contradiction, don’t you think? Pathetic.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Your life is predicated on cowardice and fear. Take your comments about anal penetration earlier in this very thread.

So, now you know about my life? Man, you’re good… :rolleyes: And, yeah, take my comments about me not being anally penetrated. You find something wrong with using the passage for what evolution created it for? Odd. Quite odd.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> And you won’t stand up for your beliefs, you play pathetic games of “who, me?” and deflect. You’d rather seem right than be right. That makes you a sad fucking sack.

Here’s that sad comedy that is you coming through again. I’ve argued for pages and pages on these boards defending my opinions on SSM and illegal immigration to a hostile majority, to name just two issues. And that’s not standing up for one’s beliefs? maybe you’re using a different dictionary or something. Either that or you are simply wrong. HEAVENS!

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I know mine don’t. I’ve actually thought about them and are totally willing to change them when presented with facts and logic. You however chose them, perhaps with a spinning wheel and will never-ever consider changing one of yours.

This is patently false. My stance on gays in the military, for instance. So, sorry, wrong again.

> [@Lobohan](#):
>
> We are entitled to our own opinions, but we share the facts. And logic is what smart people use to evaluate those facts and form opinions. Which is why you’re a stupid fuck for internalizing whatever tripe you hear on Drudge as the beat to march to.

Here’s the crux of the problem (I mean, aside from you just being a colossal asshole), social issues are not like math. You can prove that 2+2=4. You cannot prove that abortion, open borders, legalizing SSM is a good thing or a bad thing. You look at the information and put it through the filter of the values instilled in you over many years. I look at, say, the abortion issue, and come to a conclusion that I think makes the most sense for our society. I know that others who disagree with me do the same calculation. It doesn’t make them stupid or bad people. I realize that they are starting with a different set of assumptions that I am. That they have a different hierarchy of what is most important. You don’t understand that. You demonstrate time and again that you get frustrated with people who don’t see things the way they should and you then spew the ad hominems. Curiously, do you think that is helpful in any way? To the debate? To having them see things more the way you do. It’s counter productive and imbecilic. As I said. You are what you despise. And man, that is sweet.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Not at all. I expect to have to justify my policy views. You don’t.

Now, in true fashion for he who is what he professes to despises, you’re lying here. Either that or you have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve justified my thinking on hundreds and hundreds of pages.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I couldn’t tell you. I will tell you that as far as I know, I haven’t said that to someone who wasn’t actually, you know, being stupid.

So, you admit that you can think of no one who attacks posters with claims that they are stupid, moronic, etc., more than you. Think about that. It should tell you something.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> If your view is worth holding you can explain why you hold it. Otherwise it is a preference, and fine. However, you have not explained why you are against SSM, other than to stutter some foolishness about the perfect-majesty of words or some-such silly crap. A person can have whatever preference they like, but if you advocate removing rights from someone else, you’d better have a logical reason. And that you prefer it if gays don’t get something called “marriage” isn’t a valid reason. Numbnut.

Again, and unsurprisingly, you’re plainly wrong. I have explained why I am against SSM numerous times. Do a search and I’m sure you can find many threads in which I have. And _one_ where I intentionally chose to ask questions and not provide answers. What I have not done is supplied a reason that you and others might consider worthy. It’s not the same thing. Do you really not see that?

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Speaking of colossal assholes, why are you so fixated on extreme anal penetrations in this thread?

I’m not fixated, and I’m not the one that brought it up. Though it does come to mind every time I see your name pop up.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I’ll leave the assessment of my asshole state to the peanut gallery. However, I \*know \*that you’re a partisan shit and you tapdance like Shirley Temple on fire, but in the end, you lie, deflect and run like the worthless drone you are.

AGAIN, what you say should have some bearing in reality. Even your personal attacks. I’ve been accused of not letting an issue drop and defending it to the end, and now that I run away. It’s all so confusing.

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I will ask you again: If you’d like to continue with how stupid I am, please open a pit thread of your own and we can continue the discussion of my stupidity versus yours there. In this thread, I still await your answer the question in the OP. Others have managed to answer, but not you.

I would ask the mods to help this happen.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/169 "2010-01-14T18:21:03Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> How? And with whom?

Democrat Thug. I wonder. Shit you might be more stupid than I thought.

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> So the Fortune 500 companies that hire me—repeatedly—for this inflated wage are even stupider, right? Either that or there is a flaw in your thinking. But, it surely can’t be THAT.

I’ve already said that otherwise worthless people can have a skill. Please read for comprehension. Kay?

> [@](#):
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> Again, point to this lie—you know, the falsity I uttered which I knew to be false. Man you’re lame. You just can’t stop yourself from attacking the person. Pathetic.

As I said before, your lie is pretending you didn’t mean this as a partisan attack.

> [@](#):
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> Let me get this straight: I blindly and stupidly partisan snipe, yet I do it via lying and do it to score partisan points. Seems a bit of a contradiction, don’t you think? Pathetic.

Not at all. Why is lying and partisan point getting exclusive? You’re just worthless enough to not care \*how \*you get a win.

> [@](#):
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> So, now you know about my life? Man, you’re good… :rolleyes: And, yeah, take my comments about me not being anally penetrated. You find something wrong with using the passage for what evolution created it for? Odd. Quite odd.

No, but you seem a little fixated on it.

> [@](#):
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> Here’s that sad comedy that is you coming through again. I’ve argued for pages and pages on these boards defending my opinions on SSM and illegal immigration to a hostile majority, to name just two issues. And that’s not standing up for one’s beliefs? maybe you’re using a different dictionary or something. Either that or you are simply wrong. HEAVENS!

You don’t stand up, you snivel, lie and deflect. You’re not a knight flying a banner. You’re a peasant, covered in shit stabbing his horse. (Actually that would at least be effective, you’re a peasant, covered in shit stabbing a nearby tree and claiming victory on the knight.)

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> This is patently false. My stance on gays in the military, for instance. So, sorry, wrong again.

I am willing to accept that on some small stance you may be willing to learn, but I doubt it was logic that did it, I suspect it was your personal preference changed. Which of course allowed you to listen to the logical argument.

> [@](#):
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> Here’s the crux of the problem (I mean, aside from you just being a colossal asshole), social issues are not like math. You can prove that 2+2=4. You cannot prove that abortion, open borders, legalizing SSM is a good thing or a bad thing. You look at the information and put it through the filter of the values instilled in you over many years. I look at, say, the abortion issue, and come to a conclusion that I think makes the most sense for our society. I know that others who disagree with me do the same calculation. It doesn’t make them stupid or bad people. I realize that they are starting with a different set of assumptions that I am. That they have a different hierarchy of what is most important. You don’t understand that. You demonstrate time and again that you get frustrated with people who don’t see things the way they should and you then spew the ad hominems. Curiously, do you think that is helpful in any way? To the debate? To having them see things more the way you do. It’s counter productive and imbecilic. As I said. You are what you despise. And man, that is sweet.

Read my previous message again, I don’t think you understood it. As for opinions, you can have any you want. But when your opinion meets someone else’s rights, then you’d better have an argument that isn’t based on magic words.

> [@](#):
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> Now, in true fashion for he who is what he professes to despises, you’re lying here. Either that or you have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve justified my thinking on hundreds and hundreds of pages.

No, you haven’t. You’ve restated your “argument”. Not defended it.

> [@](#):
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> So, you admit that you can think of no one who attacks posters with claims that they are stupid, moronic, etc., more than you. Think about that. It should tell you something.

I think many posters are far too polite with bullshit like the kind you pull every day.

> [@](#):
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> Again, and unsurprisingly, you’re plainly wrong. I have explained why I am against SSM numerous times.

You have not offered a rational argument. Ever.

> [@](#):
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> Do a search and I’m sure you can find many threads in which I have. And _one_ where I intentionally chose to ask questions and not provide answers. What I have not done is supplied a reason that you and others might consider worthy. It’s not the same thing. Do you really not see that?

No, you haven’t made an argument that is rational. You can say, “Because I’m prejudiced and I hate them.” and no one can take that away from you. But it isn’t an argument, and it for fuck sure isn’t a case made to deny it for the gay population at large.

> [@](#):
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> I’m not fixated, and I’m not the one that brought it up. Though it does come to mind every time I see your name pop up.

Picture if you will, a high-school chemistry class volcano painted pink and erupting with pudding.

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> AGAIN, what you say should have some bearing in reality. Even your personal attacks. I’ve been accused of not letting an issue drop and defending it to the end, and now that I run away. It’s all so confusing.

Of course you’re confused, I imagine the world seems like a complicated, frighting place to someone of your capabilities.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/170 "2010-01-14T19:35:55Z")

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**Lobohan** - I know my post count has been falling quite a bit lately (due to this thing called “real life” - so inconvenient), but I have to take issue with you that you can’t think of anyone else who blatantly states clear that idiots are idiots more than you. I think I’ve been insulted.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/171 "2010-01-14T21:07:38Z")

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I dream of a day when magellan’s opinions are given the attention they deserve.

Apparently, at 171 posts and counting, today is not that day.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/172 "2010-01-14T21:10:26Z")

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magellan01, you sure use a lot of words to try and backpedal away from the fact that you posted a load of horseshit.

And it wasn’t even decent, steaming horseshit either. You posted inferior-grade horseshit.

Think about that before you opening your yap again complaining about “Democrat” mendacity.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/173 "2010-01-14T21:28:02Z")

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You might have a point if the poster in question was characteristically belligerent and hostile. But **magellan** ’s sweet, kindly nature is the stuff of legend.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/174 "2010-01-14T21:46:54Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
>
> **Lobohan** - I know my post count has been falling quite a bit lately (due to this thing called “real life” - so inconvenient), but I have to take issue with you that you can’t think of anyone else who blatantly states clear that idiots are idiots more than you. I think I’ve been insulted.
> 
> -Joe

Of course, I wasn’t thinking. Sorry, I can be such an idiot. [UNIVERSE EXPLODES!]

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/175 "2010-01-14T21:54:56Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You might have a point if the poster in question was characteristically belligerent and hostile. But **magellan** ’s sweet, kindly nature is the stuff of legend.

Like unicorns!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/176 "2010-01-14T21:57:02Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Like unicorns!

…with wings!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/177 "2010-01-15T00:17:29Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> magellan01, you sure use a lot of words to try and backpedal away from the fact that you posted a load of horseshit.

You don’t like what I posted. You don’t like horseshit (I assume). That doesn’t make the former the latter.

An incident occurred in Boston in which the aide to the democratic candidate for the senate intentionally knocked a credentialed conservative reporter to the ground, then physically impeded his passage on a public street. I characterize his actions as thuggish. Like the word or not, it’s a fair description. I posted in GD, asking what posters thought should happen to Meehan, and offered my take. A few posters have answered. Most have become apoplectic over the OP, spending an astounding amount of time and energy attacking me.

Even if one disagrees with my description of Meehan’s behavior or bristles at my linking it to other thuggish behavior by those on the left, the level of vitriol is amazingly out of whack. I can only chalk it up to the degree to which this board skews left and detests, as **Shodan** pointed out, any recognition of misdeeds for their side.

On the upside, this thread is a good piece of evidence of SDMB bias. Which, of course, doesn’t exist.

::shrugs::

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/178 "2010-01-15T00:24:04Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> An incident occurred in Boston in which the aide to the democratic candidate for the senate intentionally knocked a credentialed conservative reporter to the ground, then physically impeded his passage on a public street. I characterize his actions as thuggish.

And the way you posted the thread was, from all appearances, intended to start a shit storm. There are eleventy billion ways to do the same topic without immediately getting people into a defensive posture.

And I’ll say it again, unless you are a complete and total tardbiskit, you had to know what you were doing when you started the thread.

You don’t want discussion.

You never wanted a discussion.

You just wanted a pulpit to preach about those evil lefties.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/179 "2010-01-15T00:34:53Z")

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Just speaking for one evil lefty,. I kinda groove on spiteful, vitriolic hatred, especially as a form of impotent rage. Gotta friend, also a DFH, read all (all, mind you!) of Bork’s _Slouching Towards Gomorrah_ and underlined the really good parts, the curdled high dudgeon of a natural born scold. In the right frame of mind, hilarious, and oddly encouraging. Kinda like, if they hate us that much, we _must_ be on the right track.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/180 "2010-01-15T00:44:29Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> And the way you posted the thread was, from all appearances, intended to start a shit storm. There are eleventy billion ways to do the same topic without immediately getting people into a defensive posture.
> 
> And I’ll say it again, unless you are a complete and total tardbiskit, you had to know what you were doing when you started the thread.
> 
> You don’t want discussion.
> 
> You never wanted a discussion.
> 
> You just wanted a pulpit to preach about those evil lefties.

If all this were true I would have posted it in The Pit. I really didn’t expect this reaction. and certainly not to this degree. Honestly.

But it’s so far over the top it has developed an upside.

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