# Democratic convention 2008 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 25, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236 "2008-08-25T20:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/121 "2008-08-26T22:24:35Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] You’re right, of course, but what I suspect it was was a half-arsed plan that was doomed to failure the moment it started, by a small group of drunken idiots who thought they were a lot smarter than they actually were. ETA: IOW, regardless of how long they planned it, they never had a prayer. [/QUOTE] The plot thinnens: > [@theherald.co.uk\*](#): > > A feared white supremacist plot to assassinate Barack Obama was dismissed by police last night, who said the three male suspects only face gun charges… One of the men arrested told the local television station in a rambling interview that others involved in the case had made racist statements regarding Mr Obama and had discussed killing him on the day of his keynote speech. > > When asked if he felt there was a plot to kill Mr Obama, Nathan Johnson said: “Looking back at it, I don’t want to say yes, but I don’t want to say no.” > > Johnson was interviewed while being held in jail on drug charges. He insisted he was not involved in any plot. ---
**Author:** ![AZCowboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AZCowboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AZCowboy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/122 "2008-08-26T22:27:31Z")
Jim Leach was able to sum up in one paragraph why I plan to vote for Obama. Understand that my politics lean left socially and lean right fiscally - more libertarian than either Democrat or Republican. > [@Jim Leach](#): > > The party that once emphasized individual rights has gravitated in recent years toward regulating values. The party of military responsibility has taken us to war with a country that did not attack us. The party that formerly led the world in arms control has moved to undercut treaties crucial to the defense of the earth. The party that prides itself on conservation has abdicated its responsibilities in the face of global warming. And the party historically anchored in fiscal restraint has nearly doubled the national debt, squandering our precious resources in an undisciplined and unprecedented effort to finance a war with tax cuts. I would agree that his substance was better than style, but regardless, this one paragraph better sums up my support for Obama than anything else. I might have added, “the party that tells us that they want less federal government are also hellbent on stacking the Supreme Court with individuals that would assert the government’s judgement over women and their doctors.” Or something to that effect. I dont think Stevens will make it another four years. That paragraph needs to be the talking points for the Democrats during the debates. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/123 "2008-08-26T22:38:46Z")
Anybody know what time Clinton comes on tonight? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/124 "2008-08-26T22:46:23Z")
10 ish east coast. i think the problem with msnbc is they are outside the convention center and where anyone with a sign and sharp elbows can get a moment in the sun. much as i like mike smerconish i can’t stand the nick “smerc”. he must like it being he answers to it. ---
**Author:** ![AZCowboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AZCowboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AZCowboy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/125 "2008-08-26T22:46:41Z")
[hijack] Hurricane Gustav formed in the Caribbean yesterday, and is now pounding Haiti. Current computer models suggest it will move into the Gulf and gain strength, perhaps gaining to Category 3 strength or more. The current path predictions are eerily close to having it come ashore close to New Orleans - probably sometime around next Monday evening. See the National Hurricane Center for more details [www.nhc.noaa.gov](http://www.nhc.noaa.gov). [/hijack] Whew! That was close. A week earlier, and Gustav would have disrupted the media coverage of the Democratic National Convention. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/126 "2008-08-26T22:52:47Z")
Kucinich is a nutjob. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/127 "2008-08-26T23:22:04Z")
[QUOTE=dalej42] Kucinich is a nutjob. [/QUOTE] I thought he was great! But I only caught the last two minutes. Because CSPAN does do full coverage with no analysts. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/128 "2008-08-26T23:26:20Z")
Are they just running through every Democratic female member of the House and the Senate and every Democratic Governor? Did I miss Diane Feinstein? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/129 "2008-08-26T23:51:57Z")
[QUOTE=dalej42] Kucinich is a nutjob. [/QUOTE] have you seen his wife??!! crazy with a fox. i’ve seen boxer but not feinstein as yet. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/130 "2008-08-26T23:52:24Z")
Feinstein got hurt and won’t attend. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/131 "2008-08-26T23:59:07Z")
What happened to her; is she ok? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/132 "2008-08-27T00:00:15Z")
Is Rahm Emanuel muslim? He really nailed Bush and Bush III. I have a feeling there are many on the right who won’t like that at all. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/133 "2008-08-27T00:02:49Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] Is Rahm Emanuel muslim? He really nailed Bush and Bush III. I have a feeling there are many on the right who won’t like that at all. [/QUOTE] [Jewish.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emmanuel) And gorgeous. Well, if you’re old, female, straight, and share my taste. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/134 "2008-08-27T00:18:32Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] [Jewish.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emmanuel) And gorgeous. Well, if you’re old, female, straight, and share my taste. 🙂 [/QUOTE] I’m most definitely 3 of those things and I agree he is not hard on the eyes. His being Jewish won’t send some of the more right righties into a froth but that lady with the thick Spanish accent? I don’t think the anti-immigrationist will appreciate that at all. ---
**Author:** ![ErinPuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@ErinPuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ErinPuff)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/135 "2008-08-27T00:28:59Z")
[QUOTE=dalej42] Kucinich is a nutjob. [/QUOTE] I didn’t know until tonight that anyone but right-wing conspiracy-theorist people on the Internet said “WAKE UP, AMERICA.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/136 "2008-08-27T00:31:22Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] What happened to her; is she ok? [/QUOTE] [She’s fine](http://www.rollcall.com/news/27444-1.html) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/137 "2008-08-27T00:53:52Z")
Republican Mayor of Fairbanks, AK supporting Obama. Looks like the Dems have more people crossing over. The sore Loserman will be speaking at the GOP convention. Let him join Zig Zag Zell in the halls of ex-Dems. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/138 "2008-08-27T02:04:36Z")
Mark Warner was decent, but not an Obama or Ann Richards keynote speech. Looks like they’re still having technical problems. Ted Strickland was heard saying, “Where’s my speech?” Someone handed him a paper copy a few seconds later. I’m watching on C-span, but I"m guessing that probably wasn’t picked up by the other networks as they probably cut to commercials right after the keynote. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/139 "2008-08-27T02:10:11Z")
I liked Warner’s speech. It doesn’t bear close scrutiny, but what convention speech does. He came off as a thoughtful man concerned about his country and convinced Obama would do the best job leading it. Warner is the man I hoped the Democrats would run, but that idea was squashed before the primaries began. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/140 "2008-08-27T02:15:45Z")
Casey got them going a little bit with the “four more months” thing, but it’s been a lackluster night over all. Hillary needs to go out there and burn that place down. I think she also needs to kick McCain in the balls tonight. I’m starting to get sick of his bullshit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236.md?page=8)