# Democratic convention 2008 discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 25, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236 "2008-08-25T20:18:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/141 "2008-08-27T02:23:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Casey got them going a little bit with the “four more months” thing, but it’s been a lackluster night over all. Hillary needs to go out there and burn that place down.

I think she also needs to kick McCain in the balls tonight. I’m starting to get sick of his bullshit.  
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Seriously, when is someone going to cowboy up and start ripping into McCain? If I was in charge of this shit, I’d have that [picture of McCain nuzzling himself into Bush’s bosom](http://backinasecond.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/1-mccain_bush_hug1.jpg) plastered up on the big screens 24-7. Why are the Dems such pussies when it comes to campaigning?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/142 "2008-08-27T02:24:55Z")

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Biden speaks tomorrow. He’ll nut punch the old bastard if anybody will.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/143 "2008-08-27T02:28:15Z")

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I have Frank Zappa’s _Going to Montana_ running through my head.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/144 "2008-08-27T02:28:42Z")

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Heh…on Fox just now, they were showing a shot of Bill Clinton in the crowd and he looked like he was putting the moves on some redhead. Glad to see he’s feeling his old self again. 🆒

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/145 "2008-08-27T02:34:35Z")

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Actually, McCain is shooting himself in the foot with the, “I didn’t have a home…” Noun, verb and POW.

David Paterson, Deval Patrick and Brian Schweitzer all look good. Schweitzer in particular is an excellent speaker.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/146 "2008-08-27T02:34:04Z")

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Hillary will come out and say she will be on McCains ticket as VP. That would put some spin on the ball.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/147 "2008-08-27T02:35:26Z")

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Brian Schweitzer is kicking some ass right now, not that you’d know it from watching MSNBC. They’re too busy talking about how the Dems just aren’t kicking any ass.

Schweitzer would have been a great VP nominee.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/148 "2008-08-27T02:41:26Z")

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[QUOTE=dalej42]  
Actually, McCain is shooting himself in the foot with the, “I didn’t have a home..”  
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You gotta wonder what his policy towards Vietnam would be.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/149 "2008-08-27T02:45:20Z")

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He’s been back there already, I think, and has forgiven if not forgotten.

Great Hillary film! And here she is!! Got a lump in my throat for what might have been–couldn’t Barry have waited four more years?

Wow, she’s orange.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/150 "2008-08-27T02:49:10Z")

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> Wow, she’s orange.

She probably heard there were rednecks with rifles in town. Safety first, and all.

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**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/151 "2008-08-27T02:52:03Z")

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No Way! No How! No McCain! You go girl!

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/152 "2008-08-27T02:53:01Z")

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Here we go with the Hillary campaign tales. I guess it’s a way to reconize her peeps.

She needs to swiftboat McCain, though. Come on, Hilldog. Call him a traitor, bring up the adultery. Bring up the Keating 5. Call him a scumbag. Make shit up if you have to.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/153 "2008-08-27T02:53:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Heh..on Fox just now, they were showing a shot of Bill Clinton in the crowd and he looked like he was putting the moves on some redhead. Glad to see he’s feeling his old self again. 🆒  
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That redhead is the widow of the recently murdered chairman of the Arkansas Democratic party. I don’t think she’s quite ready to start dating again. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/154 "2008-08-27T02:56:51Z")

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[QUOTE=DoctorJ]

Brian Schweitzer is kicking some ass right now, not that you’d know it from watching MSNBC. They’re too busy talking about how the Dems just aren’t kicking any ass.  
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Thank goodness for C-Span! (And Tivo – I got behind in watching because the police showed up looking for my next door neighbor. Apparently a friend of hers got freaked out when she wasn’t answering her phone and called the police to go check on her. For the record, she’s fine – just spoke with her – she just wasn’t answering her phone because she’s on vacation!)

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> Schweitzer would have been a great VP nominee.

I just said the exact same thing to my husband. I like this guy a lot! Now I’m very excited to hear how Biden does by comparison.

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/155 "2008-08-27T03:00:05Z")

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> I want you to ask yourselves: Were you in this campaign just for me? Or were you in it for that young Marine and others like him? Were you in it for that mom struggling with cancer while raising her kids? Were you in it for that boy and his mom surviving on the minimum wage? Were you in it for all the people in this country who feel invisible?

She’s doing great so far.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/156 "2008-08-27T03:04:02Z")

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She’s really quite wonderful. Go Hills!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/157 "2008-08-27T03:04:58Z")

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Mrs. Plant just remarked, “Bill is acting like he never heard the speech before.”

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/158 "2008-08-27T03:08:09Z")

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She’s knocking it out of the park. I got tears in my eyes when she started quoting Harriett Tubman.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/159 "2008-08-27T03:09:02Z")

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[QUOTE=stolichnaya]  
She’s really quite wonderful. Go Hills!  
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It’s coming off much better than I thought it would, but I still can’t shake that feeling that she’s still trying to sell herself more than Obama and that she really doesn’t want him to win because if he does she never will.

OK, the speech is over. I’m still skeptical. Perhaps it’s the long-standing distrust of Hillary getting in the way. I’ll have to think about that.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-convention-2008-discussion-thread/461236/160 "2008-08-27T03:09:37Z")

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I think she did a good job. About as well as she could have. I don’t know if anything is capable of reaching the PUMA-tards, but I think she might have helped bring some votes back in from the fence sitters.

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