# Democratic Debates 7/30 & 7/31

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 30, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867 "2019-07-30T13:07:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/161 "2019-08-01T01:27:51Z")

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“No, he should be fired. He should be fired right away.”

Take that, New York Tough Guy.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/162 "2019-08-01T01:32:37Z")

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Wow Gabbard embarassed Harris on justice. At least someone stepped up to the plate.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/163 "2019-08-01T01:33:11Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> “No, he should be fired. He should be fired right away.”
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> Take that, New York Tough Guy.

Context?

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/164 "2019-08-01T01:34:33Z")

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So far, I think it is a bloody draw. Everyone is beating each other to death and scoring points. All the front runners will need that good national healthcare after the debate tonight.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/165 "2019-08-01T01:36:25Z")

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Is it me or does Michael Bennet sound drunk?

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/166 "2019-08-01T02:05:47Z")

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Barely veiled commie De’Blasio calls for working people of the world to unite!

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/167 "2019-08-01T02:46:42Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Is it me or does Michael Bennet sound drunk?

At times Bennet sounded like some people with MS that I know. MS can affect enunciation which may then end up sounding like drunken slurring. I don’t know that Bennet suffers from Multiple Sclerosis but there are other conditions that cause similar speaking difficulties.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/168 "2019-08-01T02:48:54Z")

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Wait, joe 30330? What the fuck url was that?

Edit: looks like he meant to say “Text Joe to 30330” and fumbled, and I’ll let the obvious jokes write themselves.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/169 "2019-08-01T02:50:14Z")

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Had to contend with a summer camp talent show tonight, so I missed most of the debate. Pretty much only saw the closers.

I liked Booker’s closing statement. I kinda hope he can catch fire.

What the hell was that Joe 30303 thing that Biden mentioned at the end?

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/170 "2019-08-01T02:52:00Z")

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lol wut was that site you want us to visit, Joe? I’m…so confused. Is that how you feel all the time?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/171 "2019-08-01T02:58:00Z")

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Harris was my favorite going in, and perhaps still is. I was impressed with Inslee and agree that climate change can be the pole star of the next administration. I feel like I could be proud of all of these candidates as POTUS. I am afraid Biden is my least favorite simply because of his recurrent difficulty in expressing himself accurately. Worse than Bennet, time to pass the torch. Didn’t really notice an issue with Bennet honestly, I thought he had a clear message.

Bottom line: I like Harris, Inslee got my attention, Castro is smooth, Booker is cool, Gillibrand did far better than last time, Yang’s idea needs more analysis but he always seems ice cold. Frankly all were inspiring. Every last one is better than Trump.

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/172 "2019-08-01T03:04:21Z")

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I think the chances of getting a nominee that could beat Donald Trump would increase astronomically if Warren, Sanders, Harris, and Biden all disappeared from the field. The B list is better than the A list, in this situation. I can easily envision Inslee, Buttigieg, Castro, Booker, and even Gabbard beating Trump. But I can’t envision any of them getting the damn nomination. At this point I’m convinced it’s going to be Warren, Harris, or Biden. And I have serious doubts about all of them. I don’t think the nominee will be Sanders but I am starting to think that his presence in the election is disruptive and nonproductive.

I’m not feeling good about this, is what it boils down to, and I suspect I’m not alone.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/173 "2019-08-01T03:12:09Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> I think the chances of getting a nominee that could beat Donald Trump would increase astronomically if Warren, Sanders, Harris, and Biden all disappeared from the field.

I agree with this. Only Sanders would beat Trump, and he won’t get the nom.

> [@Lamoral](#):
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> The B list is better than the A list, in this situation. I can easily envision Inslee, Buttigieg, Castro, Booker, and even Gabbard beating Trump. But I can’t envision any of them getting the damn nomination.

> [@Lamoral](#):
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> I’m not feeling good about this, is what it boils down to, and I suspect I’m not alone.

Nope; you’re not alone.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/174 "2019-08-01T03:31:55Z")

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From the clips I’ve seen, his closing remarks, and his interview with Anderson Cooper, Booker’s looking good tonight. But…

I wish he would do more to woo the blue collar workers in the Industrial Midwest, and less to woo African-American voters. He’s giving good answers on his Newark policing issue, even as he’s being hit with it pretty hard. I just wish he could spend more of his time talking about middle class economic issues. He’s talking a lot about criminal justice reform, but this won’t do him any favors in the general.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/175 "2019-08-01T03:37:51Z")

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Poll predictions - Biden stays put. Warren moves up closer. Harris and Sanders both fall off some. Not sure if anyone else moves at all, maybe a little shift from Buttigieg to another that has no chance. I think this is going to become mainly between Biden and Warren as Iowa gets closer.

Biden was not impressive but he was better than last time.

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**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/176 "2019-08-01T03:38:15Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> …I just wish he could spend more of his time talking about middle class economic issues. He’s talking a lot about criminal justice reform, but this won’t do him any favors in the general.

‘Biden’s’ Criminal Justice Reform = drop in crime is too simple for many people to get behind Booker if that’s going to be his pony. All someone has to do is bring up the families destroyed by the criminals now in jail.

also: ooh, Tulsi commercials!

also also: why do they keep calling former Presidents and Vice Presidents by that title? Senators, yes; not them.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/177 "2019-08-01T03:39:14Z")

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I think Biden got pounded, but unlike last time, I think he at least looked like he was fighting back and stood up for himself. He looked like he was fumbling his words a bit, but there were no 10-point drop mistakes that he made this time. Several candidates looked good, but the field was so crowded with personalities tonight, I doubt anyone stood out. Inslee came across as really erudite and compassionate, but his poll numbers aren’t going to change.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/178 "2019-08-01T03:40:20Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Poll predictions - Biden stays put. Warren moves up closer. Harris and Sanders both fall off some. Not sure if anyone else moves at all, maybe a little shift from Buttigieg to another that has no chance. I think this is going to become mainly between Biden and Warren as Iowa gets closer.
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> Biden was not impressive but he was better than last time.

Agree with this almost word for word.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/179 "2019-08-01T03:41:12Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> I think the chances of getting a nominee that could beat Donald Trump would increase astronomically if Warren, Sanders, Harris, and Biden all disappeared from the field. The B list is better than the A list, in this situation. I can easily envision Inslee, Buttigieg, Castro, Booker, and even Gabbard beating Trump. But I can’t envision any of them getting the damn nomination. At this point I’m convinced it’s going to be Warren, Harris, or Biden. And I have serious doubts about all of them. I don’t think the nominee will be Sanders but I am starting to think that his presence in the election is disruptive and nonproductive.
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> I’m not feeling good about this, is what it boils down to, and I suspect I’m not alone.

That seems to be the view on Fox News as well.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-debates-7-30-7-31/837867/180 "2019-08-01T03:44:35Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> That seems to be the view on Fox News as well.

Shocking!

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