# Democratic Game Plan For 2020.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-game-plan-for-2020/789353>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 19, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-game-plan-for-2020/789353 "2017-06-19T03:25:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-game-plan-for-2020/789353/41 "2017-07-04T15:42:15Z")

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Money. Hillary had gobs of it. That’s why nobody wanted to go up against her.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-game-plan-for-2020/789353/42 "2017-07-04T16:53:02Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Money. Hillary had gobs of it. That’s why nobody wanted to go up against her.

and polling. No one else besides Biden, Sanders and O’Mally could make the needle even budge. Webb and Chafee both withdrew after consistently polling below 2%. And Sanders fought hard and made it a real race.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-game-plan-for-2020/789353/43 "2017-07-04T17:00:14Z")

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But Sanders really didn’t make it a real race. There are no winner take all states for the Democrats. The few states where Sanders won big had a tiny amount of delegates. Sanders was way behind the 8 ball after Super Tuesday and after New York, he didn’t even have a Hail Mary (even trying to ambush the Pope couldn’t give him Divine Intervention!)

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**Author:** ![Silver\_lining](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Silver\_lining](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_lining)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-game-plan-for-2020/789353/44 "2017-07-08T11:17:04Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> It sounds like sour grapes, but democrats are losing seats they normally lose by 15-35 points, and now only losing them by 3-7 points.
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> That may sound like a hollow victory, but if democrats can keep up that momentum and energy, then a lot of GOP seats that the GOP won by \<20 points in 2014 and 2016 will be up for grabs in the house.
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> If all the democrats do is flip all the seats that cook rates as D+ or even that are currently held by republicans, and the democrats win all the R+1 and R+2 seats, that alone gives the democrats the house back. There are 25 seats that fit that description. 8 that are D+, 4 that are even, 6 that are R+1, 7 that are R+2.
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> Georgia’s 6th is R+8, South Carolinas 5th is R+9, Montana is R+11, Kansas’s 4th is R+15.
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> [Cook Partisan Voting Index - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index#By_congressional_district)
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> The democrats weren’t too competitive in Montana or Kansas where they lost by 7, but they only lost by 3-4 in Georgia or South Carolina. So if you assume the democrats have the advantage in every race that is R+4, that means about 45 seats look like realistic pickups.
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> 2018 and 2020 look like good years for the dems, but I fully expect the public to hand the house back to the GOP in 2022. Sadly. But at least Trumps agenda can be blocked starting in 2019 if the dems win the house.

Wes,

The Democrats lost over 1,000 seats ( Federal, State, and Local ) while Obama was president. They were 0-4 in special elections even with pouring the record amount of money in the contests, a strategy that can;t be duplicated in a general election year.

Losing by 3-4 % is still a lot when you consider how unpopular Trump…according to the media, and polls, which are using unfair coverage, sometimes fake news, and antiquated polling data.

I assure you 2018 will be tough on the Dem’s, particularly in the Senate as they defend more seats in some red states. I just hope there is not a super majority in the Senate, not because I don’t think the Republicans are right on some issues, but because it would not be good for our nation.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-game-plan-for-2020/789353/45 "2017-07-08T12:06:40Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I think there’s still a place for the electoral college vote. Most of the country’s population is highly concentrated in geographically smaller areas, but the population is spread out over the entire land mass. I think the EC is the right balance between voters of various interests…

What it accomplishes is giving some voters more power than others. It’s disenfranchisement by degree.

Regional interests are served locally, yet all Governors are elected by popular vote. The president is elected to serve all the people. The electoral college exists to subvert the will of the people. It should have never happened in the first place.

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