# Democratic Party Official Position is to Abolish ICE **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 15, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355 "2026-08-15T19:46:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/1 "2026-08-15T19:46:17Z")
> **[Brandon Friedman (@brandonfriedman.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/brandonfriedman.bsky.social/post/3mt5eryc5b22m)** > > Abolishing ICE is now the official position of the Democratic Party > > \[contains quote post or other embedded content\] Abolish ICE is now the official position of the Democratic party, per a unanimous resolution from the DNC. As it should be. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/2 "2026-08-15T19:47:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Abolish ICE is now the official position of the Democratic party, per a unanimous resolution from the DNC. As it should be. Useless, meaningless propaganda. I am ashamed for them. All that can happen is a re-organization and a renaming. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/3 "2026-08-15T19:53:11Z")
Good, I hope all get on board and stick with it. ---
**Author:** ![JDYanYan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jdyanyan/32/21663_2.png) [@JDYanYan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDYanYan)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/4 "2026-08-15T19:59:19Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Useless, meaningless propaganda. I am ashamed for them. All that can happen is a re-organization and a renaming. I think there is a strong consensus in the party that the people who have been running ICE and CBP need to be torn out of gov’t. We’ll certainly have some new version of immigration enforcement. But there’s no way we can let the people who’ve been operating as a violent abduction force and concentration camp guards remain in their roles (or out of prison, hopefully.) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/5 "2026-08-15T20:02:24Z")
Yeah, the only party platform better than abolishing ICE would be a declaration that the murderous thugs will be held accountable. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/6 "2026-08-15T20:02:55Z")
ICE _as it exists today_ needs to no longer be what it is today. Yes, the legitimate tasks that are supposed to be in their scope will need an entity to do them, but in order to get rid of the dangerous elements in the “organization known as ICE today” it will have to be dissolved and its functions parted out to others, both new and existing. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/7 "2026-08-15T20:05:59Z")
Reform, not abolish the SS. We need some kind of Special Branch in postwar Germany, and these are the guys with the relevant skills. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/8 "2026-08-15T20:19:30Z")
ICE? What skills, specifically, do you appreciate? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/9 "2026-08-15T20:21:34Z")
So just a new ICE, but with different name and more accountability and reform? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/10 "2026-08-15T20:30:27Z")
The Democratic party should take a page out of the Republican playbook and make policy based on whatever pisses off conservatives for the next 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/11 "2026-08-15T20:40:42Z")
I’m pretty sure that’s sarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/12 "2026-08-15T20:47:26Z")
The legitimate functions of ICE should be taken on by other agencies. The allegations of abuse against by agents needs to be investigated and the guilty agents should get life at Gitmo. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/13 "2026-08-15T21:04:23Z")
All the people responsible for ice and it’s questionable activities need to be investigated and held accountable. Steven Miller needs to rot in a jail cell … maybe they’d like him in El Salvador. All of them should go there. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/14 "2026-08-15T21:18:40Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Useless, meaningless propaganda. I am ashamed for them. All that can happen is a re-organization and a renaming. I agree with the final sentence, but disagree on the first. Yes, the net result is going to be a new organization fulfilling many of the functions of the original, but stripping the current, toxic management and application of the agency is a good idea, though yes, arguably political theater. IMHO, the rot is too deep - sure, there are probably plenty of people in the bureaucratic center that are just keeping things running, but the top and forward facing elements are _already_ untrained and rotten, completely used to being a political army. And if (and this is a HUGE if IMHO) Democrats get enough of a majority to make it happen, showing willingness to hold these criminals accountable, _even if it’s just losing their jobs_ is a worthwhile goal. Abolishing it may also allow congress to claw back some of the money Republicans have thrown to Homeland security and ICE for popular programs. Sure, it’s been designated by congress, but if the department isn’t there anymore… well, that’s been at least a mixed success for Trump. Still, I don’t think, even with the best outlook on polls that the votes are there. So as a pragmatist, yes, feels like political theater. But showing a willingness to “fight” has long been mentioned as something Democrats should be doing rather than always playing the adult in the room. And this effort would be a step in that direction. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/15 "2026-08-15T21:31:53Z")
Just as important, they need to make sure that it’s made very clear that they’re not actually proposing to do away with immigration or customs enforcement, just abolishment of the present-day organization that does it, named ICE. Otherwise, we’ll end up with more of the “Defund the Police” nonsense where they (meaning everyone who repeated that dumb-ass slogan) just handed rhetorical ammunition to the Right. It doesn’t have to be a reorganization/renaming. They could break it up and farm the functions out to other existing Federal organizations, or just bring it back to the pre-9/11 way of doing things (INS and Customs being separate). ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/16 "2026-08-15T21:50:27Z")
I thought the Democratic Party position was set every four years when the convention adopts a platform. Are such resolutions something new? The Associated Press take: [Democrats disagree over abolishing or reforming ICE at DNC meeting](https://apnews.com/article/democrats-dnc-2028-primary-immigration-ice-106d35d404491c87b4f3a64b4119677e) > [@](#): > > The Democratic National Committee, gathered for a [summer meeting](https://apnews.com/article/dnc-2028-presidential-calendar-democrats-south-carolina-be664f26ad5652f054c7f19e483a4d63), also signed off on a raft of policy positions, including one that calls for “concrete reforms” of ICE and another for abolishing the agency that’s been at the center of several [fatal encounters](https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-deaths-eight-houston-35b6d6f9b9715edd064009e195547b2b). > > ICE has been at the heart of a progressive rallying cry since 2018 during the first Trump administration, and has been renewed among some in the party after two recent [fatal shootings](https://apnews.com/article/maine-ice-shooting-immigration-ice-trump-border-5662948e22014709dcef74c3a559419c) by the agency in July. > > Saturday’s vote isn’t binding and doesn’t set the party’s platform, which will be determined at the 2028 convention, but it reflects the party’s differing views on a major issue. Earlier today I think I saw the full text of the two resolutions, but I cannot now find it. Does anyone have a link? i thought ---
**Author:** ![JDYanYan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jdyanyan/32/21663_2.png) [@JDYanYan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDYanYan)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/17 "2026-08-15T21:51:58Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Just as important, they need to make sure that it’s made very clear that they’re not actually proposing to do away with immigration or customs enforcement, just abolishment of the present-day organization that does it, named ICE. > > Otherwise, we’ll end up with more of the “Defund the Police” nonsense where they (meaning everyone who repeated that dumb-ass slogan) just handed rhetorical ammunition to the Right. > > It doesn’t have to be a reorganization/renaming. They could break it up and farm the functions out to other existing Federal organizations, or just bring it back to the pre-9/11 way of doing things (INS and Customs being separate). I think there’s a lane after everything to say. “We do not need an arm of the government that abducts and torments children and grandmothers, and makes all of us less safe.” And using it as an opportunity to protect and offer some path to citizenship to peaceful, law abiding, long term non-citizens. Then basically remaking our immigration enforcement about the border, not about terrorizing neighborhoods. (The border is of course not that big a deal, but it’s one of those things swing voters seem to care about for some reason) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/18 "2026-08-15T21:53:28Z")
There’s no disagreement – ICE should be abolished, but if it can’t be abolished, it should be reformed. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/19 "2026-08-15T22:15:43Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Just as important, they need to make sure that it’s made very clear that they’re not actually proposing to do away with immigration or customs enforcement, just abolishment of the present-day organization that does it, named ICE. > > Otherwise, we’ll end up with more of the “Defund the Police” nonsense where they (meaning everyone who repeated that dumb-ass slogan) just handed rhetorical ammunition to the Right Yes. The candidates (and bumper stickers) should say “Hold ICE personnel Accountable & make the new Border Enforcement (BE!) unmasked, body cameras and name tags on, and answerable to law.” Okay, that’s a bit long for a bumper sticker. But every “abolish ICE” remark should also include “new BE: cameras, name-tags, no masks.” (THAT could fit on the bumper.) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355/20 "2026-08-15T22:33:26Z")
“Make The Bastards Pay” fits on a bumper sticker. I say fuck courtesy anymore. I’m not a campaign strategist, though. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-party-official-position-is-to-abolish-ice/1032355.md?page=2)