# Democratic voters, what would you want accomplished in the event of a 2020 victory? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 27, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-voters-what-would-you-want-accomplished-in-the-event-of-a-2020-victory/844068 "2019-11-27T15:10:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 50
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-voters-what-would-you-want-accomplished-in-the-event-of-a-2020-victory/844068/50 "2019-12-19T07:10:43Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Nope. Kern county, most of the northern counties and a bunch of the smaller gold rush counties are all red: > [California locations by voter registration - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_locations_by_voter_registration) Wrong. I’m not sure what your link is for: There are a lot of Red counties in California? Sure; Sierra County is bright red. It voted for Trump in 2016, 1048 votes to 601. Modoc County went for Trump 2696 to 877. Humboldt County, also in North Northifornia but home to several fine colleges (and a premier source of cannabis!), voted for Clinton 33,200 to 18,373. @ **DrDeth** — examine the three triplets of numbers I just gave. Do the obvious arithmetics. What do you see? San Diego County voted for Clinton over Trump 735,476 to 477,766. I answered this in another thread. When I did the described study, I included Johnson votes in Trump’s total, Stein votes in Clinton’s total, _and assumed 5% of blue voters would defect back to the GOP._ (With this the blue margin in San Diego shrank to merely 162,267.) I still found it easy to get lots of blue states. Didn’t even need “gerrymander-shaped” boundaries. > [@Middle America](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-america/844823/37): > > [off-topic] > … I’ve just re-checked the numbers and _That simply is not true._ You can divide California into several states — almost as many as you like! — _all with very comfortable Blue majorities_, and with very straightforward, compact, non-gerrymander-looking boundaries. > > Maps dividing California into red/blue counties or precincts are extremely misleading because most of the red areas are mountainous regions with extremely low population density. The redneck votes of mountainous California would be drowned out by Sacramento and Sonoma Counties. Throw in Marin County for a blue landslide. BTW, note that Humboldt County voted for Clinton by almost a 2-to-1 margin! Coastal elites? 😛 > > In the south, the R votes in the Central Valley (Bakersfield etc.) would be drowned out by Santa Barbara, Ventura, and San Bernardino Counties. (Note that Fresno County voted for Clinton.)… --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-voters-what-would-you-want-accomplished-in-the-event-of-a-2020-victory/844068)._