# Democrats are good, Republicans are evil **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 20, 2004, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261 "2004-10-20T19:40:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/41 "2004-10-20T23:56:12Z")
Pish-posh. As a registered Declines-to-State (California’s version of “Independent”), I know for a fact that you’re both a bunch of fools. So, nyhhhhaaa!!! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/42 "2004-10-21T00:07:06Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > The statement is becoming true, if only because all the sensible, non-evil Republicans are starting to change their affiliation to either Democrats or Independents. 😉 Punk-ass quitters. One country One Party GOP ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/43 "2004-10-21T00:48:49Z")
Forgive me, haven’t seen TA:WP yet. :smack: (still love the line, though) ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/44 "2004-10-21T00:50:19Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Au contraire! Speaking as a dick, I can tell you that while it’s true some assholes can be pussies, and some pussies can be assholes, not all assholes are pussies and not all pussies are assholes. And furthermore, even among those that are both there are many layers of differentiation between them. > > Generalizations such as you purport only serve to cloud the issue. > > 😃 And generalizations such as this only serves to further disenfranchise the taint. Won’t someone think of the taint? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/45 "2004-10-21T03:00:07Z")
> [@SimonX](#): > > Punk-ass quitters. > > One country > One Party > GOP _Ein volk! Ein Reich! Ein Dubya!_ Just LOOOOVE to Godwinize! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/46 "2004-10-21T03:23:22Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > No, you wrong. It’s another way around. Nice try. That wasn’t very nice. You didn’t have to call him a wrong. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/47 "2004-10-21T03:44:46Z")
As has been noted, my quip was cribbed from **Team America: World Police**. I strongly recommend that everyone in this thread go see it PDQ. Me, I tend to be for the dicks. (Insert gay joke here). I like having a strong military, I like American cultural and political hegemony, I want minimal government interference in my life. In happier days, I would have been a moderate Republican. But my species of political animal has been hunted into extinction by the Bible-bumpers and neo-con fools running the GOP these days. Republicans used to believe in a balanced budget. Republicans used to believe in limited government spending. Republicans used to believe in diplomacy. Republicans used to believe in the freedom of the individual to live life free of of government harrassment. None of that is true any more, which is why I have to vote for Kerry. He’s not my ideal candidate, but he is at least saner than the messianic goon we have now who believes that he can make no mistakes and that he is God’s chosen leader. The day we have a president who thinks he rules by divine right is the day I start to fear for the health of the republic. As an American, I’m incurably allergic to kings. ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/48 "2004-10-21T04:09:49Z")
> [@Blackacre](#): > > Seems like there is a lot of beating around the bush (no pun intended) in this forum. Let’s cut to the chase: Democrats and their supporters are intelligent, good people, while Republicans and their supporters are evil, ignorant subhumans. Am I right? You’d have done better to phrase your observation with more precision. Republicans have courted the vote of the evil and the ignorant with greater dedication. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/49 "2004-10-21T07:17:40Z")
You’re both idiots. And evil. ---
**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/50 "2004-10-21T15:17:01Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > "Republicans think Democrats are wrong. > > Democrats think Republicans are _evil_." What’s funny about this quote is that it is both factually inaccurate and morally superior. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/51 "2004-10-21T17:56:54Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23Personally, I think four legs good, two legs bad.[/QUOTE] Walk on two legs not on four Walk on four legs breaks the law What happens when you break the law? …Sorry, that happens to me sometimes. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Poonther](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Poonther](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poonther)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/52 "2004-10-21T18:16:18Z")
I think handsome **gobear** makes a good point about what pubbies use to be and what types of evil-doers run the party now. I think many pubbies are good people but are just being led by EVIL people that pander to their values but really aren’t that way themselves. I’m talking about you DUBYA here. A classic case of this is the new commercial that the Bushies run about the girl from Mason, OH that lost her mother in 911. The main point of the commercial is that Bush even though he is the world’s most powerful man (their words not mine) is still caring and compassionate enough to give the girl a hug. They run that commercial a lot here in Florida and its so cheesy and fake that it makes me violently ill every time I see it! ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/53 "2004-10-21T19:56:23Z")
> [@Poonther](#): > > I think handsome **gobear** makes a good point about what pubbies use to be and what types of evil-doers run the party now. Absolutely. **gobear** ’s post almost made we want to dig up Nixon, and give the old bastard a Hug, 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/54 "2004-10-21T20:18:20Z")
> [@Blackacre](#): > > Seems like there is a lot of beating around the bush (no pun intended) in this forum. Let’s cut to the chase: Democrats and their supporters are intelligent, good people, while Republicans and their supporters are evil, ignorant subhumans. Am I right? > > BA Well, I won’t comment on the “good”, “evil” and “subhuman” allegations in the OP, but when it comes to “intelligent” vs. “ignorant”, [he may have a point](http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html#1): > [@](#): > > Even after the final report of Charles Duelfer to Congress saying that Iraq did not have a significant WMD program, 72% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq had actual WMD (47%) or a major program for developing them (25%). Fifty-six percent assume that most experts believe Iraq had actual WMD and 57% also assume, incorrectly, that Duelfer concluded Iraq had at least a major WMD program. Kerry supporters hold opposite beliefs on all these points. > > Similarly, 75% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda, and 63% believe that clear evidence of this support has been found. Sixty percent of Bush supporters assume that this is also the conclusion of most experts, and 55% assume, incorrectly, that this was the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission. Here again, large majorities of Kerry supporters have exactly opposite perceptions. > > … > > This tendency of Bush supporters to ignore dissonant information extends to other realms as well. Despite an abundance of evidence–including polls conducted by Gallup International in 38 countries, and more recently by a consortium of leading newspapers in 10 major countries–only 31% of Bush supporters recognize that the majority of people in the world oppose the US having gone to war with Iraq. Forty-two percent assume that views are evenly divided, and 26% assume that the majority approves. Among Kerry supporters, 74% assume that the majority of the world is opposed. > > Similarly, 57% of Bush supporters assume that the majority of people in the world would favor Bush’s reelection; 33% assumed that views are evenly divided and only 9% assumed that Kerry would be preferred. A recent poll by GlobeScan and PIPA of 35 of the major countries around the world found that in 30, a majority or plurality favored Kerry, while in just 3 Bush was favored. On average, Kerry was preferred more than two to one. > > Bush supporters also have numerous misperceptions about Bush’s international policy positions. Majorities incorrectly assume that Bush supports multilateral approaches to various international issues–the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (69%), the treaty banning land mines (72%)–and for addressing the problem of global warming: 51% incorrectly assume he favors US participation in the Kyoto treaty. After he denounced the International Criminal Court in the debates, the perception that he favored it dropped from 66%, but still 53% continue to believe that he favors it. An overwhelming 74% incorrectly assumes that he favors including labor and environmental standards in trade agreements. In all these cases, majorities of Bush supporters favor the positions they impute to Bush. Kerry supporters are much more accurate in their perceptions of his positions on these issues ---
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/55 "2004-10-21T23:53:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **GoBear** : > > Republicans used to believe in a balanced budget. > Republicans used to believe in limited government spending. > Republicans used to believe in diplomacy. > Republicans used to believe in the freedom of the individual to live life free of of government harrassment. Now _there’s_ a bumper-sticker for ya!! ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/56 "2004-10-22T06:58:44Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > Well, I won’t comment on the “good”, “evil” and “subhuman” allegations in the OP, but when it comes to “intelligent” vs. “ignorant”, [he may have a point](http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html#1): Dang, I came here to post that, and you beat me to it! The proof that Bush supporters are overwhelmingly ignorant and uninformed is no surprise at all. What worries me is… > [@](#): > > This tendency of Bush supporters to ignore dissonant information extends to other realms as well. Despite an abundance of evidence–including polls conducted by Gallup International in 38 countries, and more recently by a consortium of leading newspapers in 10 major countries–only 31% of Bush supporters recognize that the majority of people in the world oppose the US having gone to war with Iraq. Forty-two percent assume that views are evenly divided, and 26% assume that the majority approves. **Among Kerry supporters, 74% assume that the majority of the world is opposed.** What’s wrong with that 26% of Kerry supporters?? We have work to do. Regarding the OP, my opinion is that only those Republicans who KNOW all the harm that Bushco is doing yet support him anyway are evil. Not all Democrats are good, and certainly not all Republicans are bad, but the Democratic party, nowadays, tends to attracts more people with good and loving hearts, it seems to me. After all, which party is the party of choice for racists, sexists, bigots, warmongers and people with hate in their hearts in general because they think that party will advance their agenda? Hint: it doesn’t start with a “D.” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/57 "2004-10-22T13:40:38Z")
That’s quite a ludicrous statement, **Equipoise**. I could as easily mischaracterize the Democratic Party as being full of race-baiters, radical feminists, anti-religious bigots, and pacifists. And there are plenty of Democrats with hate in their hearts. There are two large parties in America, and they’re full of pleasant and unpleasant people alike. Your attempt to paint the Democrats as the party of near-godlike virtue doesn’t hold up, and can only be explained by blind partisanship on your part. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/58 "2004-10-22T14:48:29Z")
> [@Blackacre](#): > > Seems like there is a lot of beating around the bush (no pun intended) in this forum. Let’s cut to the chase: Democrats and their supporters are intelligent, good people, while Republicans and their supporters are evil, ignorant subhumans. Am I right? > > BA You are so far wrong, you’re not even in the same zip code with right. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/59 "2004-10-22T15:45:44Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Absolutely. **gobear** ’s post almost made we want to dig up Nixon, and give the old bastard a Hug, 😉 And there we have it: Necrophilia as a cure for this Nation’s political divide! Well, when they say, “_Love shall conquer everything_”, they don’t specify the orientation. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261/60 "2004-10-22T19:00:28Z")
> [@Blackacre](#): > > Seems like there is a lot of beating around the bush (no pun intended) in this forum. Let’s cut to the chase: Democrats and their supporters are intelligent, good people, while Republicans and their supporters are evil, ignorant subhumans. Am I right? > [@Clothahump](#): > > You are so far wrong, you’re not even in the same zip code with right. BA, you crossed the line separating wrong and right a long time ago … so long ago that the line isn’t even a line to you … it’s a dot … a dot so small you can’t even SEE it, man! It’s a dot so small that it gets bumped around a lot by Brownian motion and loose subatomic particles. That’s how small the dot is, man! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-good-republicans-are-evil/270261.md?page=4)