# Democrats, lefties and liberals, This one's for you **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2004, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930 "2004-06-06T07:05:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/61 "2004-06-07T21:32:28Z")
> [@LMM](#): > > There was a picture of Reagan in yesterday’s _New York Times_ testifying before, if I remember right, the House Committee on Unamerican Activities regarding Communist infiltration of the movie industry. The photograph shows him wearing eyeglasses. > > The lengthy obit also mentioned that he wore contacts throughout his life. Didn’t he talk about throwing down his glasses and saying, “I’ve had it up to my keister!” or something? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/62 "2004-06-08T03:33:12Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Reagan remained as SAG president until 1960, but not before selling out his fellow thespians by signing away royalties on movies made before 1961. There are still actors who are suffering because of that. Really? You failed to mention the fact that he secured a pension fund from the producers in lieu of those royalties. Hey, how many pre 1961 movies have you watched lately? I’ll bet Nancy and her pre 1961 fellow thespians are still getting their pension checks though. Talk about a wise move on the part of Reagan. ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/63 "2004-06-08T04:48:20Z")
_looks at top of page…_ Oh joy! This is the Pit!!! I can say anything I want about that worthless piece of human flesh! That blithering idiot… who was surprisingly always “on” for the cameras. I think his dementia started LONG before he was OUT of office… here’s my short list of his… um… fantasies… :mad: “_Trickle Down_” - Yeah! Trickle Fucking Down! I spent the fucking '80’s being laid-off, and rehired, and laid-off, and rehired, and laid-off… you get the idea… I never saw anything trickle down to me. **Lying bastard!** “_SDI_” - Let’s see… we’ll convince the american people (and the “Evil Empire” :rolleyes: ) that we REALLY can do all this stuff… it’s NOT just (primitive) computer graphics or anything… we REALLY CAN do this stuff… you just wait! You’ll see! Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah! 😛 **Lying bastard!** “_Hostages_” - Let’s see… on **Inauguration Day…** the hostages were miraculously freed… coincidence? I don’t think so! **Lying bastard!** “_Freedom Fighters_” - K… Let’s take some money… that we SECRETLY made by selling arms to our **SWORN ENEMY** … the Iranians… :rolleyes: and we’ll funnel that to some left field political group in S.A. cuz they’re kinda-sorta on our side… nobody will notice. 🙂 C’mon Jim, Let’s do it… **Lying bastard!** “_Granada_” - … _sigh_ OMFG!!! These people are downtrodden! Can’t someone think about the children??? Or… medical students… or whatever the fuck that was about… **Lying bastard!** “_Just Say No_” - 1…2…3…4…5… People with depression should “just cheer up…” :mad: **Lying bastard!** “_The Reagan Economic Revolution…_” - K… Um… K… Let’s see… If _ **I** _ borrowed a half a **TRILLION** dollars and _spent it all_… I could GOD DAMN well boost the economy too!!! Even if I spent it on Jimi Hendrix prints. Even if dickhead had **GAMBLED** that much… took the half TRILLION to Vegas and pumped it into a slot machine… he STILL would have boosted the economy… for many years… Who the fuck is going to defend his “revolution” as ANYTHING more than smoke and fucking mirrors? **Lying bastard!** Don’t flame me… I **don’t care** about your opinion… Ronnie Rayguns was the worst thing to happen to the Presidency since… the Presidency. I have said, for 15 years or so, that I would dance a jig when he died… saturday, I finally got to realize that dream! 😃 I danced around the room like a little girl when I heard he was dead. Rot in hell you fucking bastard! When bird woman is dead the cycle will be complete! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/64 "2004-06-08T04:52:03Z")
This is really sick ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/65 "2004-06-08T04:57:00Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > This is really sick He sure was! ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/66 "2004-06-08T05:13:01Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > This is really sick And just because I feel so strongly about this… WHAT exactly do you think is “sick” about this??? Did you READ my post? Did you even TRY to refute one of my points? Just one… C’mon… it’s not so hard… is it? Ronnie is an American Legend! :rolleyes: This worthless bastard is INDEFENSIBLE!!! Fuck him and you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/67 "2004-06-08T05:28:40Z")
\*\*“What war did Regan lead us through?” “World War II”\*\* Score another one for the NEA!!! ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/68 "2004-06-08T06:28:04Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > Really? You failed to mention the fact that he secured a pension fund from the producers in lieu of those royalties. > > Hey, how many pre 1961 movies have you watched lately? I’ll bet Nancy and her pre 1961 fellow thespians are still getting their pension checks though. Talk about a wise move on the part of Reagan. Does the amount of the pension equal or exceed standard royalties? I watch pre-1961 movies almost every day. Talk about a sell-out by Reagan. Oh, and you forgot to mention how he was investigated and almost prosecuted for anti-trust violations. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/69 "2004-06-08T12:38:21Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Oh, and you forgot to mention how he was investigated and almost prosecuted for anti-trust violations. He wasn’t prosecuted though, so what’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/70 "2004-06-08T13:17:48Z")
It may be premature to blame **Weirddave’s** particular idiot for misremembering Reagan’s WWII history. I’ve read in several places that Reagan himself claimed to have liberated concentration camps, although I haven’t been able to nail down a primary source yet. > [@](#): > > In the Oval Office, Ronald Reagan told Yitzhak Shamir and Simon Wiesenthal, on two separate occasions, that he himself had assisted personally at the liberation of the Nazi death camps. [Slate](http://slate.msn.com/id/2101842/) See also here [http://www.commondreams.org/views/031000-101.htm](http://www.commondreams.org/views/031000-101.htm) Well, at least he never claimed to have invented the internet, thank God. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/71 "2004-06-08T13:20:28Z")
Sorry, just noticed that **Otto** covered this one already. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/72 "2004-06-08T14:51:17Z")
And when we return, a special report on **if6was9** –is he a troll, or is he truly as much an asshole as he seems? We’ll find out, right after this word from our sponsor. _Oh, Tiger Brand coffee is a real treat, even Tigers prefer it to real meat!_ And we’re back. Today we look at **if6was9**. We’ll try to determine if he actually and honestly believes what he says . . . of if he’s just taking the piss. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/73 "2004-06-08T16:27:04Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > He wasn’t prosecuted though, so what’s your point? That he had a history of engaging in shady deals that ran back at least 30 years before the shady dealings of his presidency. And that you’re a fuckwipe kneejerk borderline hysteric. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/74 "2004-06-08T17:17:07Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > And that you’re a fuckwipe kneejerk borderline hysteric. Good grief, **Otto**. What did he say to justify that? Pot,… Clearly it would be disingenuous for conservates/Republicans to assert that the aforementioned social studies teaches spoke for all liberals/Democrats so I’m a little unsure why some would assume that a young longshoreman possibly well into the throes of inebriation would be an appropriate mouthpiece for the other side either. Also, regarding the movie Reagan quoted, I believe you’re referring to William Holden’s ship captain wondering “where do we find such men” (or something similar) in reference to the valiant and recently deceased Denver attorney near the end of _The Bridges at Toko Ri_. ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/75 "2004-06-08T17:42:00Z")
> [@if6was9](#): > > “_Freedom Fighters_” - K… Let’s take some money… that we SECRETLY made by selling arms to our **SWORN ENEMY** … the Iranians… :rolleyes: and we’ll funnel that to some left field political group in S.A. cuz they’re kinda-sorta on our side… nobody will notice. 🙂 C’mon Jim, Let’s do it… **Lying bastard!** In real life I would let this go, but I hold the SDMB to higher standards. Nicaragua is in Central America, not South America. Why can’t Americans learn that everything south of here is not “South America”? If this is confusing to you, I know there have been GQ threads discussing the lines dividing North/Central/South America that you can look up. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/76 "2004-06-08T17:52:31Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Also, regarding the movie Reagan quoted, I believe you’re referring to William Holden’s ship captain wondering “where do we find such men” (or something similar) in reference to the valiant and recently deceased Denver attorney near the end of _The Bridges at Toko Ri_. That particular one is probably behind [the story Sherry Sontag and Chris Drew](http://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/publicaffairsbooks-cgi-bin/display?book=1891620088&view=note) told in Blind Man’s Bluff, a history of US submarine-based intelligence gathering (and a helluva read). Reagan was being briefed on a mission plan that he didn’t seem to get, but instead drifted off into reminiscences of his movie career. > [@](#): > > One of our favorite stories concerned Ronald Reagan, who, thrilled after a briefing about our submarine spies, asked a Naval Intelligence officer, “Where did you get guys like this?” The officer responded, “They’re just Americans, sir.” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/77 "2004-06-08T18:59:36Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > It doesn’t say much for Yale that one of their graduates would pronounce _tyranny_ as if it were “tie’-runny.” Hey! We’ve graduated a _helluva_ lot of people since 1701, some of us total morons! My wife, for example, consistently misspells “avocado” on our grocery lists. We can’t all of us be [Jonathan Edwards](http://www.jonathanedwards.com/jechron.htm). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/78 "2004-06-09T04:40:11Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > And that you’re a fuckwipe kneejerk borderline hysteric. Oh well, I suppose it sucks to be a loser. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/79 "2004-06-10T06:39:57Z")
What’s a fuckwipe? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930/80 "2004-06-10T06:57:22Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > Oh well, I suppose it sucks to be a loser. Oh! You skewer me sir, with your rapier-like wit! How shall I rebound from the enormity of the damage done? Screech some more about your right to post here. It’s funny. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-lefties-and-liberals-this-ones-for-you/248930.md?page=5)