# Democrats Promised WMDs - Where Are They?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 2, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034 "2004-08-02T22:06:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pervert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbe5ce/32.png) [@pervert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pervert)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/21 "2004-08-02T23:51:20Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > I love this argument. I have the capability of shtupping JLo, … 😃 Cite? \ ;( ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/22 "2004-08-02T23:51:40Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I heard in passing that GeeDubya had stated that if he knew then what he knows now, he still would have gone ahead with the Iraqi invasion. Haven’t seen anything more on this, kinda thought it would be bigger news than it seems to be. I guess that must be because I think he’d have to be out of his tiny friggin’ mind to say anything so stupid. > > Unless, of course, following the OP’s lead, he intends to claim he was misled by those dastardly Dems. If GWB did say this, then Sen Pat Roberts, Republican chairman of the Senate Committe examining the military foreign policy venture that was the invasion of Iraq, was incorrect. He’d opined that surely the Pres, if he’d’ve only known then what we know now about Iraq, that he wouldnt’ve supported the invasion. I guess Sen Roberts misunderestimated GWB’s inclination to invad Iraq. **Token White Guy** , If you’d like, I’d be more than happy to carry on a discussion and or debate with you about the recent US invasion of Iraq. I bring a view point that you may not have heard well articulated yet. I’m a congenital conservative, and yet, a GOP Team Leader. However, you’ve got to bring something to the table other than copy&paste glurge and one liners. If all you’ve got is glurge and drivebys then that’s all taht you can expect. If to you, these constitue rational discourse among the electorate I’d suggest you try the usenet. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/23 "2004-08-02T23:56:48Z")
> [@pervert](#): > > Cite? > \ ;( I’d provide it, but you’d never be the same. 😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/24 "2004-08-02T23:59:36Z")
> [@SimonComplX](#): > > … I’m a congenital conservative… **Simon** , I had no idea. I’m deeply embarassed for all the dreadful things I have said about you, and wish to publicly renounce half of them. Something to do with the “Y” chromosone? ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/25 "2004-08-03T00:12:21Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > **Simon** , I had no idea. I’m deeply embarassed for all the dreadful things I have said about you, and wish to publicly renounce half of them. > Something to do with the “Y” chromosone? I have a hereditary, cantankerous, anti-gubmint disposition. I do my best to take my brain medicine as prescribed to ameliorate my condition. The medicine alleviates some of the cantakerousness, at least. The anti-gubmint disposition persists unabated, though. ---
**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/26 "2004-08-03T03:36:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I heard in passing that GeeDubya had stated that if he knew then what he knows now, he still would have gone ahead with the Iraqi invasion. Haven’t seen anything more on this, kinda thought it would be bigger news than it seems to be. I guess that must be because I think he’d have to be out of his tiny friggin’ mind to say anything so stupid. You don’t really read my posts, do you? I ask you to read my No. 15. Heard in passing, my foot! This, sir, is only a small example of the arrogance of Minnesotans, and especially of Texans masquerading as Minnesotans. I will have satisfaction. I expect to see you at the LeRoy Implement Exchange where we will settle this issue in a grand combine demolition derby on this coming Saturday at noon. No corn heads allowed or unloading augers allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/27 "2004-08-03T04:11:29Z")
> [@Spavined Gelding](#): > > Heard in passing, my foot! Straight from the horse’s mouth: > [@](#): > > And let me just say this to you: Knowing what I know today, we still would have gone on into Iraq. We still would have gone to make our country more secure. He had the capability of making weapons. He had terrorist ties. The decision I made was the right decision. The world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power. And I find it interesting, in the political process, that some say, well, I voted for the intelligence, and now they won’t say whether or not it was the right decision to take Saddam Hussein out. It’s the right decision, and the world is better off for it. [Remarks by the President on Intelligence Reform (August 2, 2004)](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/08/20040802-2.html) Bush closed his intelligence reform talk with a dig at “some” who would actually want to use accurate intelligence as a part of their decision making process? :eek: This does not augur well for his initiative to fix what’s broke. ---
**Author:** ![pervert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbe5ce/32.png) [@pervert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pervert)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/28 "2004-08-03T04:20:01Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > I’d provide it, but you’d never be the same. 😃😃 Thank you for that. My imagination often bad enough. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/29 "2004-08-03T04:25:06Z")
Just a durn minute, pard. I don’t think that’s quite right, you get to take umbrage and choose the weapons both. Don’t you gotta give _me_ the umbrage, then you smack some French guy in the face with a doily? And I’m damned if I know what a corn head is, and double-damned if I’ll let you tell me. Besides, you got to train more, do more road work before you’re ready to move up in class from Amish to Minnesotan. You’d just be another notch on my casserole dish. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/30 "2004-08-03T04:41:31Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Straight from the horse’s mouth:… Well, I’ll be dipped. He actually said that. And the scary part is, I don’t think he’s bullshitting, he genuinely believes it. He looks in the mirror and sees a Leader of Men. Lord help us all. And “voted for the intelligence”? I think I know what he means to say. I think. ---
**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/31 "2004-08-03T05:18:52Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And I’m damned if I know what a corn head is, and double-damned if I’ll let you tell me. Besides, you got to train more, do more road work before you’re ready to move up in class from Amish to Minnesotan. You’d just be another notch on my casserole dish. I’m not playing by any Frog rules. I play by Texas rules – I’m offended, I pick the weapon and I get to back shoot you with a shot gun, then I chain you to the back of a pick-up and drag your corpse around the county. A corn head is the multiple pointy thing that goes on the front of a combine to feed the rows of standing corn into the cutters. A bad thing since it makes the combine demo derbies way too short. As far as the Amish are concerned (tremendous people and great neighbors, by the way, although few of the Brethren will read it here), we are sending ours in droves to Southeast Minnesota. Cheap land in the Root River Valley. A guy can barely drive from Harmony to Rochester for all the road apples. Concerning the President’s comments on what he would do if he knew then what he knows today, it is just stunning. There is no arguing with that sort of pig headed self righteousness. How any one can vote for a man with that little understanding is just beyond my limited and provincial comprehension ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/32 "2004-08-03T05:20:59Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Straight from the horse’s mouth: Are we sure that’s the orifice it’s from? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/33 "2004-08-03T05:22:26Z")
Straight from the Oval Orifice ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/34 "2004-08-03T08:16:50Z")
Is **Token White Guy** gonna come back and defend that embarrassingly lame excuse for an OP? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/35 "2004-08-03T08:19:45Z")
Maybe he can bring his friends, **Average White Band**. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/36 "2004-08-03T14:48:38Z")
> [@Token White Guy](#): > > Anyone want to discuss this? > > John Kerry Certainly doesn’t. Been there, posted that, awaiting your rebuttal. ---
**Author:** ![Token\_White\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Token\_White\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Token_White_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/37 "2004-08-03T14:52:32Z")
Where’s the confusion? ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/38 "2004-08-03T14:53:12Z")
What are the odds that **TWG** will actually attempt to engage in a discussion of issues? A dollar that says he will gets you $20 if he does. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/39 "2004-08-03T15:05:52Z")
> [@Token White Guy](#): > > Where’s the confusion? Since you’re so smart, surely you can lay out your premises and argument clearly enough for us dunderheads to see, right? Certainly you’re capable of that, aren’t you? You don’t seriously expect these Democrats speak for you, do you? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034/40 "2004-08-03T15:37:09Z")
> [@](#): > > The Quotes Speak for Themselves > > Where’s the confusion? The confusion appears to be your misunderstanding that extracting anachronistic quotes out of context and posting them in a mendacious manner constitutes a debate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-promised-wmds-where-are-they/258034.md?page=3)