# Democrats Who Wouldn't Honor A 13 Year Old with Brain Cancer?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [March 7, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230 "2025-03-07T04:01:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/101 "2025-03-08T20:13:29Z")

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Just another nugget for ya’:

It really isn’t their friends, their neighbors, their colleagues, or the Democrats who are looking down on Trump supporters, laughing at them behind their backs, and calling them stupid.

It’s the places where they get their news and the people to whom they keep writing checks.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/102 "2025-03-08T20:19:19Z")

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> [@Culling\_The\_Herd](#):
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> Just to clarify, are you saying poor behavior on one side justifies the same type of behavior by the other or that the Left doesn’t denigrate, disparage and vilify everyone who doesn’t support/believe everything they do and may have voted for the opposition?

Just saying that pointing out the mouse while ignoring the elephant says a lot about which animal you are siding with.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/103 "2025-03-08T20:45:27Z")

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> [@Culling\_The\_Herd](#):
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> Just to clarify, are you saying poor behavior on one side justifies the same type of behavior by the other or that the Left doesn’t denigrate, disparage and vilify everyone who doesn’t support/believe everything they do and may have voted for the opposition?

No, we’re saying that the GOP has gone far beyond “poor behavior,” to pathological lies, naked grift, overt cruelty, and actively striving to tear down our democracy.

This OP, in which you criticize some Democrats for modestly rude behavior, while the “other side” is engaging in behavior that is orders of magnitudes more harmful, hurtful, and downright evil, is a ridiculous, painfully lame attempt at false equivalency.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/104 "2025-03-08T20:58:13Z")

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Look people,  
Conservatives say liberals want to cut children up to make pizza toppings after sexually torturing them to extract adrenochrome.  
and  
Democrats say Republicans want to cut social safety net programs and other things that directly benefit children.

Why can’t you see that both sides are the same?

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/105 "2025-03-08T21:23:30Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> This OP, in which you criticize some Democrats for modestly rude behavior, while the “other side” is engaging in behavior that is orders of magnitudes more harmful, hurtful, and downright evil, is a ridiculous, painfully lame attempt at false equivalency.

thank you for putting it so well. I will unsubscribe from this thread as I see no reason to interact with the person who started it.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/106 "2025-03-08T21:48:16Z")

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> [@Culling\_The\_Herd](#):
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> How do we feel about the Democrats who wouldn’t stand or applaud when 13 year old brain

How do we feel about the Republicans who wouldn’t shout “YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE” at a president who paraded a child in front of him in order to gain praise for treating cancer patients well, despite cutting funding for cancer research and certainly dooming thousands to an early grave?

How do YOU feel about those Republicans, OP?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/107 "2025-03-08T21:53:26Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> I will unsubscribe from this thread as I see no reason to interact with the person who started it.

Cull the herd, as it were.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/108 "2025-03-08T22:15:59Z")

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Basically, the answer to the OP is no, we are definitely _not_ going to “Look! Over there!!”.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/109 "2025-03-09T00:12:01Z")

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Well said @Stranger_On_A_Train. Dems have spent way too much time sucking up corporate, money, creeping right, and practically no time building up,and informing people who would vote for them. Cozying up to right wingers only proves to unengaged voters, that both parties are the same.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/110 "2025-03-09T02:01:41Z")

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During Biden’s last SOTU, Republicans refused to applaud when Biden vigorously condemned political violence. Wonder if the OP started a thread on that one?

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/111 "2025-03-09T02:33:24Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> How do we feel about the Republicans who wouldn’t shout “YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE” at a president who paraded a child in front of him in order to gain praise for treating cancer patients well, despite cutting funding for cancer research and certainly dooming thousands to an early grave?

They were wrong because they should have been doing everything possible to discredit their own party.

After failing to discredit their party in the ineffective way you suggest, they next should have discredited the GOP by switching sides of the aisle, becoming Democrats.

And then, as Democrats, they should react to Trump’s next comparable stunt in a polite way that would bring credit, in the eyes of swing voters, to their new party.

I have a question that maybe somebody can answer and that would be relevant to this thread: Does anyone have a list Democrats who did not stand and applaud? My hypothesis is that none of them come from swing or GOP-leaning districts.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/112 "2025-03-09T02:40:56Z")

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What the minority party did in response to Trump’s proclamations doesn’t seem to be as important as what the _majority_ party did during his many incorrect and/or insane moments. Sometimes standing and applaudding, no matter what is put forth, can look pretty damned insensitive.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/113 "2025-03-09T20:44:59Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Given what the president had just done to cancer research funding, this stunt was the equivalent of pardoning a turkey before the Thanksgiving feast.

And then eating that turkey.

> [@filmore](#):
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> Many people are becoming disillusioned with the Democratic party.

Not true. Altho in general many people are declaring “independent” and not one of the two parties.

> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Continue voting Democrat even though they will do nothing.

What do you want us to do? Rise up in armed revolt? Nope. Block a lot of trump stuff in the court? Yep. Vote against everything MAGA- yep.

> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Stop voting altogether, because my vote gets nothing done.

Exactly what the MAGAs want you to do.

Look, yes, trump got elected. But they were predicting a red wave in the House- and instead got just about the smallest majority ever. Pundits predict the Dems will take the House in 2026.

> [@Culling\_The\_Herd](#):
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> The move away from the two parties suggests Independents don’t like what _either_ party is selling,

Or it suggests that the Kremlins propaganda is working- “both sides are as bad, so why bother to vote?”

> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Have you paid _any attention whatsoever_ to the horrible outright lies and straw man arguments that the right daily spews about the left?

Yep. Go take a ride on Politifact some day. The “pants on fire lies” are almost all MAGA crap. And even the False ratings are mostly MAGA lies.

I will count-  
MAGA PonF- 2  
MAGA False- 13  
MAGA Mostly False- 2  
Unknown False- 2 (Dem?)  
Dem False- 1  
Dem Mostly False- 1  
Dem Half true- 1

The MAGAs lie, lie, and spread propaganda and lies. Yeah, no doubt- some Dems lies also. But there is no equiliancy. Not even close.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Just saying that pointing out the mouse while ignoring the elephant says a lot about which animal you are siding with.

Exactly.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> No, we’re saying that the GOP has gone far beyond “poor behavior,” to pathological lies, naked grift, overt cruelty, and actively striving to tear down our democracy.
> 
> This OP, in which you criticize some Democrats for modestly rude behavior, while the “other side” is engaging in behavior that is orders of magnitudes more harmful, hurtful, and downright evil, is a ridiculous, painfully lame attempt at false equivalency.

I concur.

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Conservatives say liberals want to cut children up to make pizza toppings after sexually torturing them to extract adrenochrome.  
> and  
> Democrats say Republicans want to cut social safety net programs and other things that directly benefit children.
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> Why can’t you see that both sides are the same?

Good one.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/114 "2025-03-09T20:48:13Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> What do you want us to do? Rise up in armed revolt? Nope. Nope. Block a lot of trump stuff in the court? Yep. Vote against everything MAGA- yep.

I sure as hell want you to rise up in NON-VIOLENT revolt, though. Stop complying. (More Al Green, less Everyone Else.) Also, stop pretending that the courts are going to save us. The courts are doing all of the heavy lifting right now, and that will work until they day they ignore a court order. Do we have a back-up plan? “Hope the institutions work until Republicans are out of power” looks like sleepwalking into authoritarianism to me.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/115 "2025-03-09T20:52:15Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I sure as hell want you to rise up in NON-VIOLENT revolt, though.

Such as?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/116 "2025-03-09T20:59:04Z")

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Sit-ins stopped the Vietnam war!  
Just ignore that they also contributed to two terms for Nixon and Reagan!

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/117 "2025-03-09T21:00:29Z")

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I’ll point you to a few of the experts: Martin Luther King Jr.; Gandhi; the better side of the labor movement.

The key factor seems to be large groups of people, in complete solidarity, refusing to comply with bullshit. Showing up en masse and pointedly refusing to go along with things. Documenting and publicizing the hell out of every dodgy and borderline illegal move.

Some of this is happening already, of course, but there needs to be more, and it needs to be more visible.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/118 "2025-03-09T21:16:00Z")

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If the Democratic Party intends to keep losing elections this is a great start. Playing to their base, who didn’t vote for them and ignoring the popular vote who didn’t either.

Great strategy to win back majority rule when you’ve lost control of the House, the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court.

A few more childish stunts ought to do the trick! Any day now he whole country will turn their way.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/119 "2025-03-09T21:17:00Z")

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And your better idea is…?

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-who-wouldnt-honor-a-13-year-old-with-brain-cancer/1015230/120 "2025-03-09T21:36:39Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> The key factor seems to be large groups of people, in complete solidarity, refusing to comply with bullshit. Showing up en masse and pointedly refusing to go along with things. Documenting and publicizing the hell out of every dodgy and borderline illegal move.

King and associates did not go after everything that was borderline. Instead they batted around ideas for their next move, avoiding what would alienate potential supporters. I cannot recall King doing something similar to the thread title. Can anyone else here?

One of the most effective tactics was economic boycott (think Montgomery bus boycott).

If my memory is correct, Malcolm X once famously told King that after listening to Malcolm, powers that be will be more receptive to King’s more moderate message. However, I question that Malcolm was correct there. The Democrats are getting smeared because of Al Green, who is from a congressional district where getting the Democratic nomination is tantamount to election. Last November,.Green ran unopposed. No wonder he is so heedless.

The bus boycott equivalent can be to vacation in either Mexico or Canada (or maybe, if you have more money, Greenland). Stay out of Florida, except maybe flying in directly to Key West. Will this fail because of MAGA folks doing the opposite? I do not think so. They already were going to vacation domestically.

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