# Democrats will let terrorists go free

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 17, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788 "2006-10-17T16:12:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/1 "2006-10-17T16:12:50Z")

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:rolleyes: So, Bush finally signed the latest Detainee Treatment Act (or whatever it’s being called), and what does the RNC do to celebrate: Tell the American people that Democrats who didn’t sign the bill want to let terrorists go free. What a crock. I guess you can’t help saying really stupid things when it looks like you’re going to **lose both Houses of Congress** – a distinct possibility now. I’m fucking sick and tired of this goddamn fear mongering. Will the voters finally reject that ridiculous arguement? I think they largely will. This is going to be a very intersting election!!

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> [Bush signs law authorizing harsh interrogation](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061017/pl_nm/security_bush_dc_3)
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> Shortly after Bush signed the law, the Republican National Committee issued a press releasing [sic] headlined, “Democrats would let terrorists free” and listed the names of many House and Senate Democrats who opposed it.

That’s got the sound of a weaselly little gambler without any chips trying to bluff his way thru a losing hand. I don’t start a lot of Pit threads, but I’m getting itchy for this election to be over so the Republicans can have the fear of God put in them. They need it!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/2 "2006-10-17T16:18:55Z")

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If anyone’s interested, [here is the link to the RNC’s web site and the actual press release.](http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=6653) You might have to clean your monitor after displaying this BS…

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/3 "2006-10-17T16:30:28Z")

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I see that the GOP is now the official Bearing False Witness Party.

Wonder if their evangelical voters know about this.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/4 "2006-10-17T16:33:54Z")

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And this is only the beginning, there is still three weeks before the election. I predict this will be rather mild compared to what is to come.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/5 "2006-10-17T16:34:37Z")

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They’re going to play the terror card until it stops winning. I think it is going to fall short this time but it’s sad that this is their best shot. If you’re not marching lockstep with Bush with no questioning his decidership, then it means you’re for the terrorists. Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/6 "2006-10-17T16:35:10Z")

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The RNC comes off as fools for saying this. Obviously, Hillary Clinton and her anti-gun commie friends planned it.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/7 "2006-10-17T16:39:34Z")

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Both parties do this on a regular basis.  
Wasn’t phone taping supposed to be the be all end all of Big Brotherness?

I understand that the Dems would let some of the supposed terrorists go, but I also assume that they intend to expedite the hearings and what-have-you to allow that to happen. Not exactly a get out of jail free card but also not the same as the current situation.

Would it be OK to list them as _former_ **supposed** terrorists?  
Obviously no-one is going to let an actual terrorist go free, slitting their own political throat that would be. Just as no-one was going to phone tap a completely innocent person’s line.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/8 "2006-10-17T16:40:27Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
I see that the GOP is now the official Bearing False Witness Party.  
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I thought it was the Personal Responsibility Party. That’s why whenever they fuck up (usually at noon, 2:30, and 5:00 daily, evening show on Fridays and Saturdays), they deflect attention from themselves by pointing out how Democrats never accept personal responsibility.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/9 "2006-10-17T16:42:36Z")

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Given the way “terrorist” has been defined (apparently whoever a member of the Executive Branch baldly asserts is a terrorist), virtually anyone aquitted by a Democrat in a court of law in a case even remotely relevant to TWAT can easily be defined as a “terrorist set free”.

So Bush is right. Get it?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/10 "2006-10-17T16:48:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense]  
Obviously no-one is going to let an actual terrorist go free, slitting their own political throat that would be. Just as no-one was going to phone tap a completely innocent person’s line.  
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I think the possibility of the latter happing is orders of magnitude greater than the former.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/11 "2006-10-17T16:50:17Z")

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For such a potentially explosive accusation, the response is, thus far, muted. I did a quick run around to lefty blog sites and there is no mention of this putrid bit of political theater.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/12 "2006-10-17T17:49:27Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
For such a potentially explosive accusation, the response is, thus far, muted. I did a quick run around to lefty blog sites and there is no mention of this putrid bit of political theater.  
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I hate to say it but I think the public is sooo used to hearing such banter that they filter it out.  
Or, maybe it’s true and the silence is deafening!

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/13 "2006-10-17T17:58:37Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
:rolleyes: So, Bush finally signed the latest Detainee Treatment Act (or whatever it’s being called), and what does the RNC do to celebrate: Tell the American people that Democrats who didn’t sign the bill want to let terrorists go free.  
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This is probably why the stupid thing passed in the first place. Everyone knew this was going to happen and I’m sure plenty of Dems who voted for it were just plain cowards.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/14 "2006-10-17T17:59:29Z")

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Hah, that’s nothing. I’ll see your Democrats want terrorists to go free and raise you

-Democrats are working with David Duke  
-Democrats want to kill black people

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> The lengths white right-wing conservatives will go to try and play \[tag\]African-American\[/tag\] voters for fools is literally breathtaking. Last month, ...

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**Author:** ![Dumbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dumbguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dumbguy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/15 "2006-10-17T18:02:11Z")

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I’m not only going to let the terrorists go, I’m going to give each of them a map of all the nuclear reactors in the US, a Jimmy Fresno disguise kit, and a nice muffin sampler.

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/16 "2006-10-17T18:07:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense]  
Obviously no-one is going to let an actual terrorist go free, slitting their own political throat that would be. Just as no-one was going to phone tap a completely innocent person’s line.  
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Tell that to [this](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/14/terror/main643334.shtml) guy.

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**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/17 "2006-10-17T18:15:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense]  
Just as no-one was going to phone tap a completely innocent person’s line.  
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That strikes me as unduly optimistic, seeing as the administration’s entire point was to remove judicial oversight from the phone-tapping process.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/18 "2006-10-17T18:37:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense]  
Just as no-one was going to phone tap a completely innocent person’s line.  
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😕

How could you even _know_ whether you were tapping the line of anyone completely innocent, without first having a trial in which the person was acquitted?

Unless you’re assuming the Jack Chick definition of “completely innocent person”, under which, I’ll grant you, there is no such critter.

Did you intend to assert that “no-one was going to phone tap a person-for-whom-no-probable-cause-for-suspicion-existed’s\* line”?

Please clarify.

\*or whatever the standard necessary for an _ex post facto_ FISA warrant actually is.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/19 "2006-10-17T18:40:05Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
They’re going to play the terror card until it stops winning.  
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You mean they’ll stop on November 7? Great! I’m pretty sure the Republican edge on national security has been reduced to almost nil over the last few years.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-will-let-terrorists-go-free/376788/20 "2006-10-17T18:50:33Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
For such a potentially explosive accusation, the response is, thus far, muted. I did a quick run around to lefty blog sites and there is no mention of this putrid bit of political theater.  
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Maybe it depends on how much this press release gets reported by the MSM, or if it’s a tag line that starts to get picked up by Republicans up for re-election. I just picked up the blurb on YahooNews.

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