# Dems challenging election - don't they care? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109 "2016-12-07T13:58:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109/101 "2016-12-08T05:10:59Z")
Morgenstern, Ravenman, and anyone else interested: I started [a new thread to continue the Chinese satellite discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=813201) without hijacking this one (any further than I already have) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109/102 "2016-12-08T06:17:25Z")
It’ll just end up going around and around. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109/103 "2016-12-08T13:00:09Z")
I voted for Hillary and I’m against the recount efforts. The democrats would be far better off acknowledging that they lost the election and start focusing on analyzing why they lost, and more importantly why they keep getting their asses kicked in local and statewide elections and why 2/3 of the country is now under full republican control at the state level and why they control the federal government as well. That would be a far better investment of their time and energy, as would finding ways to really reach out to young voters and people who tend not to vote in these lower profile elections. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109/104 "2016-12-08T14:00:58Z")
The recounts are being driven by Jill Stein. How much time and energy is being used up by the Democrats? I agree that self-reflection is needed, but it’s not like this is some huge, time consuming push by the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109/105 "2016-12-08T14:09:57Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The recounts are being driven by Jill Stein. How much time and energy is being used up by the Democrats? I agree that self-reflection is needed, but it’s not like this is some huge, time consuming push by the Democrats. Also, it doesn’t seem to be well understood in this thread that by “participating” in the recount, [the Clinton campaign is just sending lawyers to observe any recount efforts](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-recount-idUSKBN13L0TX). They aren’t the ones advocating for them, filing lawsuits or other legal triggers to bring them about, or funding them. That’s Jill Stein’s campaign. She’s not a Democrat. While some Democrats might be contributing money to Jill Stein’s efforts to get recounts in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, does the OP have evidence showing the partisan breakdown of these contributors? > [@Reuters](#): > > Marc Elias, the Clinton campaign counsel, said the campaign would take part in the recount in Wisconsin as well as in the other battleground states of Pennsylvania and Michigan if recounts were mounted there. Elias said in a statement on the Medium website that the Clinton campaign had not planned to seek a recount since its own investigation had failed to turn up any sign of hacking of voting systems. > > “But now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides,” Elias said. Clinton’s campaign should be legally represented in Wisconsin to be able to monitor the recount, he said. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109/106 "2016-12-08T20:38:31Z")
There you go bringing them pesky facts into the mix. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109/107 "2016-12-14T17:34:12Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > I’m gonna go find your posts from the aftermath of the 2012 election. Your tune has changed completely. > [@Ravenman](#): > > I can’t wait. Start a new thread on what I said after 2012. > > If I don’t hear from you in a few days on this subject, I’ll PM you and remind you in this thread about the research you promised. Hmm, this threat to expose me as a hypocrite for things I said after the 2012 election seems to have fallen by the wayside. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109/108 "2016-12-14T22:13:38Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why do you care if the cops search your house? If you have nothing to hide, you would welcome the opportunity to prove it? If the Democrats are willing to waste good money on bet with near ZERO opportunity of panning out, why shouldn’t the Republicans protest, too? That’s the way the game is played, and it would be exactly the same if the rolls were reversed. Probably not _exactly._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-challenging-election-dont-they-care/774109.md?page=5)