# Dems pick up deep-red legislative seat in Missouri

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 7, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347 "2018-02-07T03:00:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/1 "2018-02-07T03:00:05Z")

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I guess the title carries the message, but [some detail](http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/372670-dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri):

With all ten precincts within the district reporting, Revis led Republican David Linton by 108 votes, or about three percentage points.

If Revis’s lead holds, it would mark a significant swing from the 2016 elections, when Trump won the district by a 61 percent to 33 percent margin.

That’s a 30 point swing, comparable to the Roy Moore election. I assume this guy wasn’t a child molester, though.

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**Author:** ![proudfootz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@proudfootz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/proudfootz)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/2 "2018-02-07T03:11:08Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I guess the title carries the message, but [some detail](http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/372670-dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri):
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> With all ten precincts within the district reporting, Revis led Republican David Linton by 108 votes, or about three percentage points.
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> If Revis’s lead holds, it would mark a significant swing from the 2016 elections, when Trump won the district by a 61 percent to 33 percent margin.
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> That’s a 30 point swing, comparable to the Roy Moore election. I assume this guy wasn’t a child molester, though.

Good to see Revis is supporting right of workers to organize.

“Right-to-Work is a 60-year old bad idea, pushed by big corporations to lower wages. When it was passed by the Missouri General Assembly, I felt the call to take action and run for office. This constant assault on the rights of working men and women is funded by just a few multi-millionaires who buy influence with elected officials.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/3 "2018-02-07T03:16:05Z")

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Ah! Illegal alien voters smuggled in by union thugs!

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/4 "2018-02-07T03:16:55Z")

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Yes, I’ve been reading that. Looks like swings from 19% - 31% (!) towards the Democrats.

Quite heartening.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/5 "2018-02-07T03:23:57Z")

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Meh, in 2012 the R won 52%-48%. I have trouble buying that it’s all that “deep-red”, but cherry-picking is best-picking, so there’s that.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/6 "2018-02-07T03:26:22Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Meh, in 2012 the R won 52%-48%. I have trouble buying that it’s all that “deep-red”, but cherry-picking is best-picking, so there’s that.

Whatever you have to tell yourself.

"it would mark a significant swing from 2016, when President Trump won the district by a 61 percent to 33 percent margin.

Four years before that, Mitt Romney beat President Obama in the district, south and west of St. Louis, by a 55- to 43-percent margin."

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/7 "2018-02-07T03:44:36Z")

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A pro life, pro death penalty, NRA member winning that district isn’t all that shocking. A union friendly Republican with a D after his name beat the actual Republican. It probably doesn’t speak much to trends for November unless the primary results are really surprising.

> **[Election 2018: Linton, Revis square off for District 97 seat](https://callnewspapers.com/election-2018-linton-revis-square-off-district-97-seat/)**
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> Residents of south county and Jefferson County in the 97th Missouri House District who have gone unrepresented since September will elect a new state legislator in a special election next week. Republican David Linton and Democrat Mike Revis, both of...

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/8 "2018-02-07T03:47:35Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> A pro life, pro death penalty, NRA member winning that district isn’t all that shocking. A union friendly Republican with a D after his name beat the actual Republican. It probably doesn’t speak much to trends for November unless the primary results are really surprising.
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> [Election 2018: Linton, Revis square off for District 97 seat – St. Louis Call Newspapers](https://callnewspapers.com/election-2018-linton-revis-square-off-district-97-seat/)

Don’t tell them that. You’re raining on their parade with facts. You’ll spoil all the fun. Don’t you see? Objective analysis clearly isn’t the purpose in this thread. It’s a party thread, meant to cherry-pick a few data points and translate those into a hoped-for blue tsunami, and you’re doing it all wrong.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/9 "2018-02-07T03:55:26Z")

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Might surprise you two that there are pro-life Democrats, pro death penalty Democrats. I know, shocking because you guys drive away people who don’t tow the entire party line.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/10 "2018-02-07T03:57:49Z")

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> One more district, a rural seat about halfway between St. Louis and the Arkansas border, remained too close to call as of 10 p.m. Eastern time. In that race, Democrat Jim Scaggs led Republican Chris Dinkins by just 66 votes out of about 4,100 cast, with ten precincts yet to report. President Trump won that district by an incredible 78 percent to 19 percent margin, making the narrowness of the race even more remarkable.

[From an article on _The Hill_.](http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/372670-dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri?__twitter_impression=true)

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/11 "2018-02-07T04:07:41Z")

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Speaking as a Missourian, I think that’s nice, but the Republicans won two other special elections tonight (with another race not called yet) and this Democratic win will bring their total in the state House to 47 out of 162 seats.

Now, if the Democrats win the remaining district, which is located deep in the Ozarks, I might be more excited.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/12 "2018-02-07T04:26:17Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> A pro life, pro death penalty, NRA member winning that district isn’t all that shocking.

That’s how Democrats won the house in 2006, wasn’t it? Selecting and running candidates that actually fit their district? I mean, the goal should be flipping control first and worrying about some insistence of ideological purity second.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/13 "2018-02-07T04:32:40Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> That’s how Democrats won the house in 2006, wasn’t it? Selecting and running candidates that actually fit their district?

Yes …

> [@Jophiel](#):
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> … worrying about some insistence of ideological purity second.

… and that’s how they lost it four years later.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/14 "2018-02-07T05:13:05Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Yes …
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> … and that’s how they lost it four years later.

Sure. So running a pro-life, pro-gun Democrat and him winning is a good thing if you want to see Democrats retake the House (I realize this was a state election). I’m not familiar with everyone who is running in every district but this is a proven working model.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/15 "2018-02-07T06:32:58Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Sure. So running a pro-life, pro-gun Democrat and him winning is a good thing if you want to see Democrats retake the House (I realize this was a state election). I’m not familiar with everyone who is running in every district but this is a proven working model.

Absolutely, I’d love to see Dems soften their anti-gun and pro-choice positions. I get the impression they’re not very interested in doing that.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/16 "2018-02-07T12:45:47Z")

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Hey I can stomach a few anti-choice, pro-death by gun Democrats if it means taking Congress.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/17 "2018-02-07T13:31:20Z")

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Is it possible the huge Trump percentage says more about sexism in those areas?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/18 "2018-02-07T14:32:15Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Hey I can stomach a few anti-choice, pro-death by gun Democrats if it means taking Congress.

I think someone who labels people “anti-choice” tells us much more about themselves than anything else with that decision.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/19 "2018-02-07T14:39:13Z")

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Really? What does it say?

It’s _honest_, unlike “pro-life”.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-pick-up-deep-red-legislative-seat-in-missouri/808347/20 "2018-02-07T14:45:43Z")

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“Forced-birth advocate” fits the bill too.

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