# Dems sue Trump over emoluments **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 14, 2017, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924 "2017-06-14T05:02:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/121 "2017-06-19T00:05:48Z")
[quote=“Whack-a-Mole, post:113, topic:788924”] Funny you should mention it because Congress did that. [quote] > [@](#): > > Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act > … Great news. Now you’ve got him! Except it doesn’t mention a thing about emoluments which is what is at issue. And the only redress is for the Attorney General to file a civil suit. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/122 "2017-06-19T05:37:28Z")
So let me get this right. A foreign prince can donate large sums of money to a legislative or executive officer’s foundation or charity or honorarium or spouse and get an meeting i.e. pay for influence and that’s OK but if he pays for a room in a hotel owned by the President that’s a violation? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/123 "2017-06-19T07:06:48Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > So let me get this right. A foreign prince can donate large sums of money to a legislative or executive officer’s foundation or charity or honorarium or spouse and get an meeting i.e. pay for influence and that’s OK but if he pays for a room in a hotel owned by the President that’s a violation? Don’t worry, unlike the Jill Stein recounts, the Hamilton Electors, the protesting of the electoral college certification, the collusion-investigation-that-wasn’t, this time they’ve really got him pinned down. Emoluments, that’ll show him! :rolleyes: ETA: and if that doesn’t work, I’m confident the two-scoops-of-ice-cream thing will finally do it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/124 "2017-06-19T07:30:05Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Don’t worry, unlike the Jill Stein recounts, the Hamilton Electors, the protesting of the electoral college certification, the collusion-investigation-that-wasn’t, this time they’ve really got him pinned down. Emoluments, that’ll show him! :rolleyes: > > ETA: and if that doesn’t work, I’m confident the two-scoops-of-ice-cream thing will finally do it. Awfully confident for someone who has very few facts one way or the other. Faith over facts, eh? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/125 "2017-06-19T07:55:51Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Awfully confident for someone who has very few facts one way or the other. You’re right. All I’ve got is a history of failed attempts by Democrats to overturn the results of the election. They haven’t succeeded yet, but as the saying goes: past performance is no indication of future results. I concede it’s possible they’ll succeed one day, but I do so in the same way I concede that it’s possible that the Wile. E. Coyote may perhaps one day catch the roadrunner: It’s not looking good based on their track record. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/126 "2017-06-19T13:50:08Z")
Technical comment: Obama did _not_ use a blind trust. (Several posters seem unaware of this.) > **[Why Trump Won't Use A Blind Trust And What His Predecessors Did With Their...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2016/11/15/why-trump-wont-use-a-blind-trust-and-what-his-predecessors-did-with-their-assets/#57ec8fd129c0)** > > From ongoing litigation to business deals in foreign countries, Trump is bringing an unprecedented level of conflict of interest to the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/127 "2017-06-19T14:13:19Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > You’re right. All I’ve got is a history of failed attempts by Democrats to overturn the results of the election. They haven’t succeeded yet, but as the saying goes: past performance is no indication of future results. I concede it’s possible they’ll succeed one day, but I do so in the same way I concede that it’s possible that the Wile. E. Coyote may perhaps one day catch the roadrunner: It’s not looking good based on their track record. LOL that’s rich coming from the party of Gingrich and McConnell. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/128 "2017-06-19T16:18:53Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > but I do so in the same way I concede that it’s possible that the Wile. E. Coyote may perhaps one day catch the roadrunner: [Like this?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJJW7EF5aVk) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/129 "2017-06-19T16:42:43Z")
HurricaneDitka, could you explain why you put Jill Stein’s recount attempts in your little list of Dem failures? Since you are no doubt aware she isn’t a Democrat, it kind of looks like you needed some padding. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924/130 "2017-06-19T16:57:07Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > HurricaneDitka, could you explain why you put Jill Stein’s recount attempts in your little list of Dem failures? Since you are no doubt aware she isn’t a Democrat, it kind of looks like you needed some padding. Because it won her fundraising, presumably from Dems, and lots of support and news and attention from Democrats. [Here is how HuffPo put it](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jill-stein-recount-green-party_us_5840b6f9e4b0c68e048011af): > [@](#): > > Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein’s crowd-funded election recount is finally underway in Wisconsin ― and it enjoys the cooperation of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. > > The recount is shaping up to be a huge source of media attention and fundraising for Stein, who barely registered on the national radar during the election. But, ironically, an initiative that has endeared Stein to some of the Democrats who once scorned her is upsetting many of the Green Party leaders who were her most loyal supporters. > > Mainly, they question Stein’s choice of states and what they say is her willingness to work with ― and serve the interests of ― Democrats. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-sue-trump-over-emoluments/788924.md?page=6)