# Dems vs. Bush2 and Pubs vs. Obama

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-vs-bush2-and-pubs-vs-obama/612007
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [February 6, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-vs-bush2-and-pubs-vs-obama/612007 "2012-02-06T20:30:54Z")
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### Author: ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-vs-bush2-and-pubs-vs-obama/612007/74 "2012-02-08T13:34:48Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> So, because you cannot actually provide evidence about a claim that you inserted into this thread, you are now going to accuse other posters of being dishonest?

The evidence has been provided.

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> And your remarks in the other linked thread carefully avoid pointing out where Halperin actually said what you claim he said, so that defense fails.

No they don’t. Read the thread.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Did the memo in question tell his news people to slant their coverage against Bush to try to keep him from being re-elected? Yes or no.

Yes.

Halperin claims "the stakes are getting very high for the country and the campaigns ". This means that the election is approaching. Hence the reference to campaigns. He also claims ABC is “one of the few news organizations with the skill and strength to help voters evaluate what the candidates are saying to serve the public interest.” This means they should attempt to convince voters not to vote for Bush, because re-electing Bush is not in the public interest.

I note for the record that septimus’ ridiculous claim that Rove was behind the forgeries passes unchallenged by the moderators.

So, to sum up, yes, there is such a memo, from Halperin, and **Czarcasm** ’s pretense that there is not is (obviously) false. It does say what I said, to a person fluent in English (and not blinded by partisanship).

Regards,  
Shodan

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