# Dems want Hillary Clinton to leave spotlight **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 4, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133 "2017-06-04T22:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/41 "2017-06-05T15:02:16Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Because she’ll be too old, turning 73 a week before the 2020 election. She may be a tough old bird, but in four years she’ll be more old than tough. The 2016 loss was devastating, there is no way she wants to go through that again. Time for her to put up her feet and relax for the rest of her days. Biden is just as old, Trump and Sanders are Sanders is older… and I’m betting they’ll all run, too. Stubbornness beats age. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/42 "2017-06-05T15:14:54Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Everyone has been saying for the past 8 years that the radical right wing of the Republican party is going to destroy the party – and yet here they are pretty much with as much power as the Democrats had throughout much of the mid-20th Century. The radical right simply shoved its moderates out of the party and now they are gearing up for a holy war against the progressives. This is the danger the Democratic Party faces. If the progressives force out the moderates, their party might gain power, but they will alienate people just as effectively as the Republicans currently are. Right now, the Democrats are the reasonable party that anyone can safely vote for. What’s going to happen when both major parties have alienated the center? If you think American politics are unstable now, wait until the center doesn’t feel safe voting for either party. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/43 "2017-06-05T15:25:12Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > I do have a feeling that whatever anyone else may think Hillary still has not abandoned her hopes of the Presidency and may well be contemplating a run. Should she? (post shortened) It depends on who will rise to the top of the DNC’s presidential food chain. Hillary may be the best candidate that the DNC can muster up? Plus, Chelsea’s political career needs all of the clout that Hillary can provide. Just between you and me, I believe Bill has retired from the real world, and won’t be able to provide much political help going forward. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/44 "2017-06-05T17:02:05Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The media isn’t aiming the spotlight. The media _is_ the spotlight. If people didn’t pay any attention when they put a microphone in front of Clinton, they would stop doing it. If people do pay attention, then that’s on them. Yeah, but people are stupid, so expecting them to not look at the wreck on the side of the road is just wishful thinking. I think what posters here are saying is that Hillary should get out of the spotlight. It’s on her. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/45 "2017-06-05T17:12:57Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > This is the danger the Democratic Party faces. If the progressives force out the moderates, their party might gain power, but they will alienate people just as effectively as the Republicans currently are. > > Right now, the Democrats are the reasonable party that anyone can safely vote for. What’s going to happen when both major parties have alienated the center? If you think American politics are unstable now, wait until the center doesn’t feel safe voting for either party. I remain unconvinced enough people are interested in “safe” votes. Blowing up the system seems popular on both sides, for reasons I haven’t completely grasped. I hope “reasonable” comes back in fashion. ETA: I hold no grudge against Hillary, but I’d prefer she adopt “elder statesman” profile and not try to lead the party. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/46 "2017-06-05T17:20:50Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > The person who really needs to go away is Bernie Sanders. That vile shitbag has well outlived his 15 minutes of fame. No one in their right mind thinks Hillary is running again,but people are curious about he thoughts about 2016. The Democrats lost 2004 and 2000, but they were both expected to be toss up elections, coming down to a single state. There hasn’t been an electoral shock like this since 1948, which featured very primitive polling. Bernie’s not so bad but his Bernie Bros and Sandernistas brought in a Trump victory. They eagerly swallowed and reposted every vile lie, half-truth and propaganda that Rove and the Russians came out. They had nothing good to say about Sanders, just how bad Hilary was. This made many vote 3rd party or stay home. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/47 "2017-06-05T17:22:38Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > Doesn’t _somebody_ need to be in charge of the Democrats, setting the line, bringing on new candidates, and so on? Why start now? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/48 "2017-06-05T19:00:50Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I remain unconvinced enough people are interested in “safe” votes. Blowing up the system seems popular on both sides, for reasons I haven’t completely grasped. I agree. And the political system is going to become more and more unstable as those looking for safe votes become fewer. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/49 "2017-06-05T19:43:17Z")
We desperately need new blood. All those people in their 40’s and 50’s in the party need to start stepping up and shoving the 70-something’s out of their leadership positions. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/50 "2017-06-05T19:55:44Z")
If Clinton runs in 2020 I think it is safe to say that Trump bribed her to do so. 🙂 I’m not American, and I think it is time for Hillary to retire. She can only hurt the Democratic party. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/51 "2017-06-05T19:57:44Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > The person who really needs to go away is Bernie Sanders. That vile shitbag has well outlived his 15 minutes of fame. Take a deep breath. If you want to start a thread about what a vile shitbag Bernie is, go for it, but frothing at the mouth is not becoming, particularly in a thread that hadn’t mentioned Sanders at all until you decided to turn it into a tired referendum about how Sanders is the worst human on the planet. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/52 "2017-06-05T20:05:50Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Biden is just as old, Trump and Sanders are Sanders is older… and I’m betting they’ll all run, too. > > Stubbornness beats age. Absolute, bumbling incompetence at running two campaigns\* beats either of those two. And Hillary is simply unable to run a campaign. \*Bill? Arguably the best campaigner of my lifetime with JFK, Reagan and Obama in the next tier. Hillary is down somewhere below Bob “Bob Dole refers to himself in the third person and uses viagra” Dole and Walter Mondale, the Ambien that walks like a man. She’s even below Lyndon LaRouche as a campaigner. He was batshit nuts, but at least he didn’t make it seem like he was being made to drink nasty medicine when he campaigned. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/53 "2017-06-05T21:17:17Z")
I was unaware she was in the spotlight. I literally only hear about her from people defending Trump. Sure, she may be speaking, but is she showing up in any national news or anything? I don’t have any problem with her choosing to speak, as long as she’s not trying to set up another run or influence Democratic policy. Ever since I heard about her husband telling her to go after the white working class and her refusal, I’ve thought she just didn’t have what it takes. She’s not a bad person, IMO. And, against Trump, that should have counted. But there must be better out there. People who can push the Democratic message that we’re the only ones actually trying to help the working class poor, too. ---
**Author:** ![FightMyIgnorance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@FightMyIgnorance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FightMyIgnorance)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/54 "2017-06-05T21:52:31Z")
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**Author:** ![Alittlesmitten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@Alittlesmitten](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alittlesmitten)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/55 "2017-06-06T05:32:21Z")
I’m young and I’m cool with being called a liberal (but not libtard har har har), and I don’t really have hope in H. Clinton. I voted for her because I put my money where my mouth is, but, I mean, come on. I don’t really trust her because she has baggage. And when she talks good stuff now, and I go back and see some her other words and actions, I can forgive that, of course. But I am not a forgive-and-forget person. I’m a forgive-and-learn person. And I learned, after my cognitive dissonance, that H. Clinton isn’t the person I should put my hope in as a young, under privileged black woman struggling to get some class mobility going for me and mine. But if she’s my best bet, then she’s my best bet. I just keep finding myself thinking, “There’s got to be someone better. Someone clean.” But I guess nobody’s clean because politics. Something politicians and businessmen have in common is that they can be moved by money. That’s something ya girl ain’t got. So… I’d rather move on to a step better than H. Clinton. Something about 2 out of 3 losses makes me wanna say screw a 3rd try. But if she came up again and she talks a good game, my money is obviously on her. And my fingers would be crossed that the popular vote actually means something. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133/56 "2017-06-07T13:35:26Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > but at least he didn’t make it seem like he was being made to drink nasty medicine when he campaigned. She was very entitled. She almost seemed offended that she had to run for the job. She is competent, smart and hard working but I literally know HUNDREDS of people that fit that description. The only thing Hillary Clinton has on them is that Bill Clinton is her husband. What fucking use is a politician that can’t win elections? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dems-want-hillary-clinton-to-leave-spotlight/788133.md?page=2)