# Denied Visitation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 5, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352 "2011-06-05T00:15:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/21 "2011-06-05T05:27:59Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> Would it be a good idea to consult an attorney?

I recommend retaining a barrister.

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**Author:** ![jeredc1983](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jeredc1983](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeredc1983)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/22 "2011-06-05T05:33:19Z")

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Not sure why no one has suggested it yet, but I’ll go ahead and do it: Get a lawyer.  
BTW: I think this guy is whoosing us.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/23 "2011-06-05T06:25:35Z")

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> [@jeredc1983](#):
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> BTW: I think this guy is whoosing us.

We’ll let the courts sort _that_ out.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/24 "2011-06-05T07:13:07Z")

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I don’t know if I have anything more useful to say than what has already been said ;), but I thought I’d threadshit and say thank fucking god I never had to go through this shit.

I don’t understand parents who try to keep kids away from the other parent and I don’t understand parents who ‘let it slip’ for two years.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/25 "2011-06-05T07:34:46Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I’m surprised no one mentioned that he should get a fucking lawyer.

Now now. Let’s not go overboard. A regular lawyer would be just fine.

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**Author:** ![nicole1912](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9de0a6/32.png) [@nicole1912](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicole1912)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/26 "2011-06-05T20:33:04Z")

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Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, but maybe the OP should consider getting a lawyer. I know, I’m going out on a limb here, but sometimes the most unlikely ideas turn out to be good ones! I can totally understand why no one else suggested such an outlandish concept though…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/27 "2011-06-05T23:00:53Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I’m surprised no one mentioned that he should get a fucking lawyer.

No, we can’t let them reproduce!! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/28 "2011-06-06T00:26:36Z")

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Look, I don’t know why everyone else isn’t jumping to the obvious conclusion but, as an attorney myself (in the state of Missouri no less), I feel it’s incumbent to be the voice of reason and sound judicial advice.

You should really go get some ice cream.

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**Author:** ![Gilles\_de\_Rais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@Gilles\_de\_Rais](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gilles_de_Rais)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/29 "2011-06-06T00:30:41Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Look, I don’t know why everyone else isn’t jumping to the obvious conclusion but, as an attorney myself (in the state of Missouri no less), I feel it’s incumbent to be the voice of reason and sound judicial advice.
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> You should really go get some ice cream.

:p:p:p

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/30 "2011-06-06T00:34:47Z")

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Consult a veternarian.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/31 "2011-06-06T03:43:27Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> > [@Guinastasia](#):
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> > I’m surprised no one mentioned that he should get a fucking lawyer.
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> Now now. Let’s not go overboard. A regular lawyer would be just fine.

Especially since fucking lawyers only do it in six-minute increments.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/32 "2011-06-06T04:08:34Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I’m surprised no one mentioned that he should get a fucking lawyer.

> [@Autolycus](#):
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> Now now. Let’s not go overboard. A regular lawyer would be just fine.

No, I would prefer a lawyer who has not taken a vow of chastity. Especially if she’s a smokin’ hot one.

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**Author:** ![RadicalPi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/radicalpi/32/9806_2.png) [@RadicalPi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadicalPi)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/33 "2011-06-06T04:18:09Z")

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Now, now, we all know that we’re not supposed to give medical advice on this board, but I think you may want to see a doctor about this.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/34 "2011-06-06T05:06:58Z")

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I can’t be entirely certain, of course, but I suspect an attorney specializing in Family Law would be helpful in such a situation. But it’s just a guess, mind.

[Todt Law Firm](http://todtlawfirm.com/)\*  
Call today for a free consultation: 314-862-5520

Best in the state.

\*I have no personal or professional connection to this firm whatsoever. Just familiar with their reputation.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/35 "2011-06-06T06:43:17Z")

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If he can’t afford child support, he can’t afford a lawyer.

My un-legal advice is to spend the money you don’t have on copious amounts of grain alcohol.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/36 "2011-06-06T13:30:44Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Traditionally, in a joint physical custody situation, at least in my state, the children are to spend roughly equal amounts of time with each parent. There is usually no child support involved.

I suspect that varies widely by jurisdiction. At least in Florida, judges have broad discretion to award support regardless of joint custody. They just reduce the award by 50%.

ETA: Get a _female_ lawyer.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/37 "2011-06-06T14:28:05Z")

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I suggest that either a Psychic or a Telephone Solicitor should be able to fix this guy right up.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/38 "2011-06-06T18:19:31Z")

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> [@rachelellogram](#):
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> If he can’t afford child support, he can’t afford a lawyer.
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> My un-legal advice is to spend the money you don’t have on copious amounts of grain alcohol.

That would probably lead to him posting things on message boards.

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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/39 "2011-06-06T23:17:31Z")

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Get a beagle.

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**Author:** ![Bartman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Bartman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bartman)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denied-visitation/584352/40 "2011-06-07T04:03:12Z")

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Alright gotta go with the mandatory answer… but dude you need a lawyer.

Once you have one, continue to try and work with the ex. Negotiations should not adversely affect a final ruling. You will of course want to follow you lawyer’s advice on what to say and what not to say, but a judge will generally view attempted negotiation favorably. In addition if you try to schedule a hearing today, you might get one in September, if you are lucky. The last time I requested a judgement on a point of disagreement in my divorce, I filed in February, and the hearing was set for mid August. A ruling would have come a month or more later. In the end my Ex and I came to an agreement in July. But without a judicial track forcing her hand, the negotiation track wouldn’t have ever started. And if are relying exclusively on the judge to give you satisfaction, you will have a long and expensive wait with an uncertain conclusion.

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