# Denis Leary DXed my daughter as lazy and stupid!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [October 16, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153 "2008-10-16T04:17:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/21 "2008-10-16T16:46:47Z")
> [@Rick](#):
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> Shipping her somewhere? š
š That was good, thanks for the laugh **Rick**
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### Author:  [@Foxy40](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foxy40)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/22 "2008-10-16T17:16:06Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Note: Leary also drives really slow in the ultra-fast lane while people behind him are going insane. Heās an asshole.
Iāve heard he also uses public toilets and pisses on the seats.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/23 "2008-10-16T18:13:46Z")
> [@Foxy40](#):
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> Iāve heard he also uses public toilets and pisses on the seats.
He also parks in handicapped spaces while looking at himself in a mirror.
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### Author:  [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/24 "2008-10-16T18:15:53Z")
Cute kid. I think Leary is right though, and i donāt think hes saying what you think he is. Shitty parents DO get their kids diagnosed with autism rather than admit they are shitty parents and their kids are dumb, that has nothing to do with you or your kid and taking it personal is just missing the point. The ones you should have beef with are the idiot parents, not Dennis Leary for pointing out a very real problem.
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### Author:  [@spoike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spoike)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/25 "2008-10-16T19:16:08Z")
> [@DigitalC](#):
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> ā¦Shitty parents DO get their kids diagnosed with autism rather than admit they are shitty parents and their kids are dumbā¦
You know, for the last 5 years, since my sonās official diagnosis, Iāve been involved with special education, both full-time and after he was mainstreamed, social skills therapy groups and camps, Allies for Autism fundraisers and even surf camp for children with Autism.
I have seen hundreds of children with Autism of varying degrees. Granted, Iām obviously not an expert, but I do have some experience, and I have never once seen a child in those classes, therapy groups, fundraisers and camps who I thought wasnāt actually autistic. In fact, the more common experience Iāve had is seeing mainstreamed children who most likely had some form of ASD whose parents refuse to acknowledge a problem.
So I canāt help but wonder where Denis Leary (and you, for that matter) are seeing all these kids who have been misdiagnosed by their āshittyā parents, because I havenāt seen it, and Iāve actually spent a fair bit of time with autistic children.
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### Author:  [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/26 "2008-10-16T19:20:35Z")
RyJae, she is beautiful! What a gift you have!
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### Author:  [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/27 "2008-10-16T19:40:41Z")
> [@spoike](#):
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> You know, for the last 5 years, since my sonās official diagnosis, Iāve been involved with special education, both full-time and after he was mainstreamed, social skills therapy groups and camps, Allies for Autism fundraisers and even surf camp for children with Autism.
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> I have seen hundreds of children with Autism of varying degrees. Granted, Iām obviously not an expert, but I do have some experience, and I have never once seen a child in those classes, therapy groups, fundraisers and camps who I thought wasnāt actually autistic. In fact, the more common experience Iāve had is seeing mainstreamed children who most likely had some form of ASD whose parents refuse to acknowledge a problem.
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> So I canāt help but wonder where Denis Leary (and you, for that matter) are seeing all these kids who have been misdiagnosed by their āshittyā parents, because I havenāt seen it, and Iāve actually spent a fair bit of time with autistic children.
Well obviously you are not going to see those parents actually putting any effort into making things better, that would be you knowā¦ work. If they wanted to do all that they would actually raise their kids right instead, the whole point is having a handy excuse for their failure not the added burden of a child with real disabilities. Please keep in mind this has absolutely nothing to do with parents like you or RyJae who are actually dealing with some serious issues, and i really donāt think either of you should assume Learys or mine comments apply to you in any way.
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/28 "2008-10-16T19:45:50Z")
Like so many people on these boards who like to get bent out of shape over anything, if it doesnāt apply to you, donāt apply it to yourself. Denis Leary is a comedian; he says outrageous things and applies them to large groups whether or not they fit every member of that group. Itās his job.
Plus, heās an asshole.
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### Author:  [@spoike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spoike)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/29 "2008-10-16T20:16:33Z")
> [@DigitalC](#):
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> ā¦i really donāt think either of you should assume Learys or mine comments apply to you in any way.
I know those comments donāt apply to me or RyJae or any of the other parents who are working so hard with our kids. They donāt apply to us, but they do have an effect on us. Anything that contributes ignorance and misinformation to the information about ASDās is making our lives more difficult.
Every parent I know has had someone in their life, whether it be an acquaintance, friend or family member, make a negative comment rooted in their ignorance of Autism, Aspergerās or another ASD. Every parent I know has had to spend time educating those people, and that takes energy we donāt have.
And, **Featherlou** , I am in no way ābent out of shapeā. Iām actually sorry it comes across that way, especially because I thought I was expressing myself rather calmly, but Iām not upset or angry. Iām just tired.
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### Author:  [@MadPansy64](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadPansy64)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/30 "2008-10-16T21:11:31Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Heās an asshole.
QFT.
He says shit that he thinks will be funny to someone who will pay him for making them laugh. He has kids to feed and bills to pay, and one must do what one needs to do.
Personally, I think asshole-ness comes naturally to him, and that itās a damn shame he can make a living by being a loud-mouthed, ignorant asshole. The song was funny, going out of his way to prove it true is not.
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### Author:  [@bathsheba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bathsheba)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/31 "2008-10-16T21:28:33Z")
> [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](#):
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> RyJae, she is beautiful! What a gift you have!
Hallelujah.
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### Author:  [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/32 "2008-10-17T00:27:17Z")
Errā¦people do know that I was just quoting lyrics from his lovey song, ā[Iām an Asshole](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzZzsvOClc),ā right?
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### Author:  [@CutterJohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CutterJohn)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/33 "2008-10-17T00:46:00Z")
Itās really oddā¦ People will sit and listen to comedians spew some of the most vile and hateful shit, and _laugh their asses off_, but the moment said comedians current joke knocks something the listener believes, its badā¦ Heās wrong! Thats not true!
Of course its not. They arenāt up there to tell the truth, they are up there to get laughs. Occasionally they can with truth, and occasionally they just tell wild stories, or embellish true stories, or tell half truths, and a lot of the time they just flat out make stuff up. Considering the wide cultural and political diversity in this country, any fan of comedy knows that every once in a while, a comedian is going to spew some straight bullshit that you just have to roll your eyes at and shrug off, and wait for the next joke.
Its also good to remember, even if a joke pisses you off in its ignorance, the next one he tells, and probably the last one he told before, pissed someone else off as much as this pisses off you.
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### Author:  [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/34 "2008-10-17T00:46:55Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> At least, thatās what my mother once said about Dweezil.
Is that one of those clever doper names like Bobwife or Johnkid or did you seriously name your kid Dweezil?
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### Author:  [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/35 "2008-10-17T00:59:56Z")
> [@CutterJohn](#):
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> Itās really odd.. People will sit and listen to comedians spew some of the most vile and hateful shit, and _laugh their asses off_, but the moment said comedians current joke knocks something the listener believes, its bad.. Heās wrong! Thats not true!
The vibe Iāve always gotten from Leary is that he kinda wants you to take his opinions seriously, or think āItās funny 'cause itās true!ā I like him a lot when heās not being that way, and he annoys the hell out of me when he is. Heās just not nearly as smart as he seems to think he is.
Carlin was the same wayāreally funny when he was being funny, dull and tiresome when he was trying to āsay somethingā.
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### Author:  [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/36 "2008-10-17T01:20:02Z")
> [@WF\_Tomba](#):
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> The vibe Iāve always gotten from Leary is that he kinda wants you to take his opinions seriously, or think āItās funny 'cause itās true!ā I like him a lot when heās not being that way, and he annoys the hell out of me when he is. Heās just not nearly as smart as he seems to think he is.
Come on, cut the guy some slack. Bill Hicks has been dead for 15 years, so heās running out of good material.
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### Author:  [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/37 "2008-10-17T02:10:51Z")
Lighten up, Francis. That mean ole comedian clearly was speaking about every child with autism, let alone yours.
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### Author:  [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/38 "2008-10-17T02:21:34Z")
> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Cute kid. I think Leary is right though, and i donāt think hes saying what you think he is. Shitty parents DO get their kids diagnosed with autism rather than admit they are shitty parents and their kids are dumb, that has nothing to do with you or your kid and taking it personal is just missing the point.
I really find it difficult to believe that any significant number of parents have managed to āgetā their perfectly healthy children diagnosed with autism. Do you know anything about the symptoms of autism? Hereās the DSM IV [diagnostic criteria](http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/overview_diagnostic_criteria.htm). A regular kid, even a _dumb_ regular kid, is not going to meet these criteria. A doctor might mistake another disorder for autism resulting in a misdiagnosis, but they donāt just stick the autism label on anybody.
I can believe that some parents might CLAIM that their precious little misunderstood child must be autistic ā there are certainly adults who make similar claims about themselves ā but thatās not the same thing as an actual diagnosis.
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### Author:  [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/39 "2008-10-17T05:51:14Z")
> [@Cisco](#):
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> Is that one of those clever doper names like Bobwife or Johnkid or did you seriously name your kid Dweezil?
Whatās wrong with [Dweezil](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dweezil_Zappa)?
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### Author:  [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denis-leary-dxed-my-daughter-as-lazy-and-stupid/468153/40 "2008-10-17T06:30:52Z")
> [@RoOsh](#):
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> Whatās wrong with [Dweezil](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dweezil_Zappa)?
Did you somehow get out of my post that I didnāt know who Dweezil Zappa was?
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