# Dennis Hastert: Soros might have made his money in illegal drugs

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**Created:** [August 31, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334 "2004-08-31T00:48:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/21 "2004-08-31T10:54:39Z")

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Sure he could, but then it would be all over the news, and a substantial number of the credulous would then think it was true. You know how this shit works - the allegation can be much more effective than the truth.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/22 "2004-08-31T11:02:10Z")

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I’m guessing that whoever runs against Hater, uh, Hastert, next time up is going to be incredibly well funded. And I hope that Soros sues him into poverty just for the sport of it, regardless of whether it’s profitable. It’s not like the guy needs the money.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/23 "2004-08-31T11:30:36Z")

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I hear Hastert likes to have sex with pigs.

Cause he favors pig legalization, y’know?

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/24 "2004-08-31T11:31:32Z")

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Fuck, we’re losing this media war. Soros needs to take that asshole hastert to task on this one. What the fuck is up with the stupid dems? I’m half tempted to call them up and say “move over, you guys don’t know what you’re doing”.

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/25 "2004-08-31T13:46:20Z")

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And when I encounter such as this, I realize what a load of crap is Hastert’s, “Big Denny, Simple Man of The People” schtick.

I hope like hell that Soros supports generously the next person to run against Hastert and makes the bastard weep bitter tears before all is said and done.

And I hear that **Hastert** is the one who is fond of children. And, interestingly enough, tractors.

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/26 "2004-08-31T13:58:06Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Some people say that Hastert is a pedophile with a particular fascination for the 7-10 set.

Yes, I’ve read about that. I’m not saying Dennis Hastert has a vast collection of child pornography, because I don’t know that to be true. The important thing is, we don’t know if it’s true or not.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/27 "2004-08-31T14:15:09Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> It’s an election year, fellas. This is the way the game is played.

In that case, I demand to know what antidepressants George Bush is taking.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/28 "2004-08-31T14:20:42Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> It’s an election year, fellas. This is the way the game is played.

Yeah, well this stupid game is fucking up the country.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/29 "2004-08-31T15:02:34Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> It’s got just about as much truth as Michael Moore’s assertions that the Bush family is in cahoots with the Bin Laden family.

Quote? Link? (IIRC, a link to the transcript of F911 was in your F911 thread; feel free to quote chapter and verse about Moore’s assertions and their lack of validity. I give you complete permission to hijack this thread.)

At any rate, my point (which others have made more explicit) is that it’s reasonable to hold the occupants of high public office to a much higher standard than the one we hold media propagandanists to. And only Bush and Cheney hold higher office than Hastert, who is Speaker of the House; he’d be President if anything should happen to them both.

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> It’s an election year, fellas. This is the way the game is played.

I’m all too aware of that - but unlike some, I absofuckinglutely refuse to _condone_ it. If politics gets overwhelmed by lies and slander. how are people to make any rational choice between the candidates, or between the parties? So with full awareness that dirty politics will never go away, I will do what little I can to hold politicians accountable for their words.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/30 "2004-08-31T15:03:23Z")

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Hastert’s a choad.

But let’s not make the mistake of canonizing Soros.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/31 "2004-08-31T15:09:37Z")

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Not to mention the mistake of doing to Hastert what he did to Soros.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/32 "2004-08-31T15:43:49Z")

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Here’s how the interview went down:

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> HASTERT (smugly): You know, I don’t know where George Soros gets his money. I don’t know where — if it comes overseas or from **drug groups** or where it comes from. And I…
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> WALLACE: Excuse me? :dubious: 😕
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> HASTERT (frowning): Well, that’s what he’s been for a number years — George Soros **has** been for legalizing drugs in this country. So, I mean, he’s got a lot of ancillary interests out there. :fucking _DUH_:
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> WALLACE (bemused): You think he may be getting money from the drug cartel?
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> HASTERT :eek: (a little confused, stammering, shaking his head): I’m saying I don’t know where groups — could be people who support this type of thing. I’m saying we don’t know. The fact is we don’t know where this money comes from.

In this interview, Rep. Hastert is clearly trolling, attempting to tie Soros’s bank account to any number of [Drug](http://www.sptimes.com/2004/08/22/Worldandnation/He_s_the_billionaire_.shtml) [legalization/decriminalization](http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread3083.shtml) [PACs](http://www.soros.org/initiatives/ihrd). Money from PACs goes to Soros, to MoveOn, then to the airwaves to attack President Bush.

At most, he’s calling Soros a money launderer, which we all should know, is not too far from how this Carlyle insider has built his enormous fortune. Stronger accusations hedge on [CloudLaroucheLand](http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3043soros_dems.html).

[Link](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130366,00.html) to full interview, for context.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/33 "2004-08-31T15:49:43Z")

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Btw, wouldn’t it be pretty easy to backtrack how Soros got his money? It’s not like it’s some huge mystery.

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/34 "2004-08-31T16:02:06Z")

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Soros made his money through currency speculation. A damned difficult way to earn a little lucre, by anyone’s measure.

And I see that I fucked up and mis-read **Equipoise** ’s post. All apologies.

But I stand by my assertion that Hastert has a thing for tractors.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/35 "2004-08-31T16:16:14Z")

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> [@GLWasteful](#):
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> Soros made his money through currency speculation. A damned difficult way to earn a little lucre, by anyone’s measure.

Believe me, I dabbled in it and was killed.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/36 "2004-08-31T22:40:39Z")

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> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> I’m not saying Dennis Hastert has a vast collection of child pornography, because I don’t know that to be true. The important thing is, we don’t know if it’s true or not.

I know what you mean. I read somewhere, can’t recall where, that Hastert wears a Jesus Buttplug in his anus 24/7. Now, I have no proof this is true. I have no proof it isn’t true, either. It would be so easy to dispel the rumors: All he has to do is get on camera, turn around, drop trou, bend over, and spread his ass cheeks. And yet he refuses. What does he have to hide?

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/37 "2004-08-31T23:30:30Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> In that case, I demand to know what antidepressants George Bush is taking.

He was on Prozac, but he switched to Halliburton, and everything **is wonderful!**

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/38 "2004-08-31T23:36:58Z")

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And then comes Newt Gangrene, on _Hannity and The Other Guy_,

“…wants to spend $75 million defeating [President] George W. Bush because Soros wants to legalize heroin.”

Well, there you have it! Straight from the horse’s…ah…mouth.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/39 "2004-09-01T01:23:05Z")

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I hear Newt Gingrich divorced his wife on her deathbed so he could marry another woman.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dennis-hastert-soros-might-have-made-his-money-in-illegal-drugs/262334/40 "2004-09-01T01:25:07Z")

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[According to Josh Marshall](http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_08_29.php#003387), Hastert is aggressively repeating his charges against Soros. Soros has responded with a fine [put-up-or-shut-up letter](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/soros.hastert.pdf). It’s in PDF, so I can’t C&P any quotes, but it illuminates the difference between our side and theirs.

They’re a bunch of sick liars, who can win only by smear and obfuscation.

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