# Denver and DIA map.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 21, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281 "2016-12-21T06:41:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![SuperAbe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@SuperAbe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperAbe)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/21 "2016-12-22T22:34:38Z")

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> [@yabob](#):
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> San Jose’s urban sprawl was made by the design of “Dutch” Hamann, the City Manager from 1950 to 1969. During his administration, with his staff referred to as “Dutch’s Panzer Division,” the city annexed property 1389 times…

:eek:

That’s an annexation every 5 calendar days…for 19 years… wow.

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**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/22 "2016-12-23T01:35:46Z")

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> [@SuperAbe](#):
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> :eek:
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> That’s an annexation every 5 calendar days…for 19 years… wow.

Yeah, although it’s only about 60 acres per annexation. Since there were undoubtedly some large tracts annexed, it means there was probably a lot of annexing of parcels of a few acres here and there. And he obviously didn’t succeed sometimes - you will notice that San Jose has an unusual number of unincorporated enclaves within the city, such as Cambrian Park and Fruitdale.

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**Author:** ![RadicalPi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/radicalpi/32/9806_2.png) [@RadicalPi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadicalPi)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/23 "2016-12-23T05:56:40Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> Never mind - it’s Google’s badly drawn legend. It’s is not accurate enough to do area measurements.

Just FYI, Google Maps does have a distance and area measuring tool. Just right click, and select “Meassure distance.” Then click twice.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/24 "2016-12-23T09:47:05Z")

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You realize they could call it Denver International Airport even if it wasn’t in Denver. Cincinnati’s airport isn’t even in Ohio.

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**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/25 "2016-12-23T12:59:00Z")

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Isn’t O’Hare connected to Chicago by a strip out along the interstate?

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/26 "2016-12-23T14:42:22Z")

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> [@Fleetwood](#):
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> Isn’t O’Hare connected to Chicago by a strip out along the interstate?

No. That’s what a lot of people think, including many (most?) who live in Chicago.

It was originally connected via a strip along Higgins Avenue. But questions were raised about whether that complied with state law. So the original Mayor Daley (Richard J Daley) addressed the problem with a two-step program: First he annexed the forest preserve along the western edge of the city at the north end (see the green area in [kunilou’s map](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Chicago,+IL/@41.9199058,-87.817175,12.17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x880e2c3cd0f4cbed:0xafe0a6ad09c0c000!8m2!3d41.8781136!4d-87.6297982?hl=en)). Then he made a deal with the mayor of Rosemont (Donald E. Stephens) to annex a piece of land along the southern border of Rosemont running from the forest preserve to the airport. In exchange, Rosemont got access to Lake Michigan water.

The original strip along Higgins was abandoned.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/27 "2016-12-23T14:51:59Z")

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Oops. Higgins Road, not Higgins Avenue.

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**Author:** ![vd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@vd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vd)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/28 "2016-12-23T15:48:07Z")

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It doesn’t show up on Google Maps, but the southern bit of [San Diego](http://www.google.ca/maps/place/San+Diego,+CA,+USA), San Ysidro, is connected by a thin strip that runs down the middle of the bay.

I suspect the NNW arm to San Pasqual Valley (and the Wild Animal Park) had to do with water rights.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/29 "2016-12-24T00:12:59Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> Are you sure? The City of Seattle’s own boundary maps indicate that the city limits end miles north of the airport: [https://data.seattle.gov/Land-Base/CARTO-CTYLIMIT/eykv-q5y9](https://data.seattle.gov/Land-Base/CARTO-CTYLIMIT/eykv-q5y9) and they show no shoestring connecting to Sea-Tac.
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> The city of SeaTac, Washington, on the other hand, shows itself containing the airport with no exclave marked: [http://www.ci.seatac.wa.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=110](http://www.ci.seatac.wa.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=110)
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> SeaTac, Washington has been an incorporated city since 1990, [SeaTac, Washington - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaTac,_Washington)
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> Perhaps that was the situation prior to 1990?

I thought so originally but I researched why the airport has a Seattle address. I found a map of Seattle showing the shoesting and how the city limits are coterminous with the airport. It’s not on google so I’ll try to look it up for you.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/30 "2016-12-24T18:03:09Z")

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> [@vd](#):
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> It doesn’t show up on Google Maps, but the southern bit of [San Diego](http://www.google.ca/maps/place/San+Diego,+CA,+USA), San Ysidro, is connected by a thin strip that runs down the middle of the bay.
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> I suspect the NNW arm to San Pasqual Valley (and the Wild Animal Park) had to do with water rights.

Let’s see how many times San Diego’s weirdness gets brought up in this thread.

This post makes 3.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/31 "2016-12-24T20:10:45Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Here’s a map of [Colorado’s Congressional Districts](http://www.cde.state.co.us/sites/default/files/images/cdeboard/images/congressionaldistrictmap.jpg).
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> So, the OP is referring to the extension of the 1st District to the northeast so that DIA is included. As pointed out above, there ought not to be very many voters with a residential address at the airport, generally it’s not allowed. Gerrymandering is the act of creating unusually shaped districts for the purpose of consolidating voters of one political party into one district, so that all the other districts have voters of the other political party. If there are no voters in DIA, then technically this isn’t Gerrymandering.

And since there was the municipal annexation of the airport land, the design of the district achieves that most of the actual city and county of Denver end up in one same Congressional district

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**Author:** ![urban1a](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47c2d/32.png) [@urban1a](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urban1a)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/32 "2016-12-25T01:58:58Z")

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> [@urban1a](#):
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> The airport that DIA replaced, Stapleton, was more or less embedded within the city boundries. This caused immense problems for the airport and Denver because people would insist on building houses directly under the flight paths and then would complain about the noise.

The thread has gone on to other cities and their particularities but I wanted to mention that the old airport, Stapleton, was 49 square miles; the size of San Francisco.

Bob

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/33 "2016-12-26T10:56:28Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I thought so originally but I researched why the airport has a Seattle address.

The cities in mailing addresses are assigned based on mail delivery routes, not the governing municipality. The reason any place has a particular city in its mailing address is always the same: Because the USPS says so.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/denver-and-dia-map/775281/34 "2016-12-26T11:09:20Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> The city of SeaTac, Washington, on the other hand, shows itself containing the airport with no exclave marked: [http://www.ci.seatac.wa.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=110](http://www.ci.seatac.wa.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=110)

[The city of SeaTac’s minimum wage ordinance](http://www.ci.seatac.wa.us/index.aspx?page=681) applies to workers at the airport, so it looks like it’s definitely in SeaTac, not Seattle.

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