# Der Trihs, a moment of your time, if you would. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 13, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089 "2007-02-13T22:53:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/261 "2007-02-15T22:15:30Z")
[QUOTE=RedFury] **Giraffe** , done and my apologies. I was – and am – aware of both the out-of-bounds engagement I got involved in but bullies – internet or not – always seem to bring out the worst in me. Just irks me to no end that these assholes go around issuing all sorts of physical threats to anyone who refuses to agree with them. OTOH, I took a deliberate sarcastic approach – which obviously blew right by their simian skulls – in order to show them how zany and futile their threats are. Must admit though, that **jsgodess** , **Gary Kumquat** , **tagos** and **El\_Kabong** are doing a much better job of showing these monkeys off. Would that I had their patience dealing with animals… :::sigh::: [/QUOTE] > **[Weasel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel)** > > Weasels /ˈwiːzəlz/ are mammals of the genus Mustela of the family Mustelidae. The genus Mustela includes the least weasels, polecats, stoats, ferrets, and European mink. Members of this genus are small, active predators, with long and slender bodies and short legs. The family Mustelidae, or mustelids (which also includes badgers, otters, and wolverines), is often referred to as the "weasel family". In Great Britain, the term "weasel" usually refers to the smallest species, the least weasel (M.... :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/262 "2007-02-15T22:38:37Z")
[QUOTE=erie774] I’m disappointed in you both. If you two don’t at least call each other assholes, I will lose all respect for you. 😉 [/QUOTE] Hey, I told him I’d see him in the ring! […shuffling feet… …throwing air punches… …showing gold tooth for camera…] ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/263 "2007-02-15T23:19:11Z")
[QUOTE=RedFury] I asked you, didn’t I, to look at the **signatories** of that screed – in particular their [Statement of Principles](http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm). Now tell me, how many of the names you see there have either now or in the past held some of the most important positions in Bush’s Government? [/QUOTE] And that somehow makes the organization official…um, how? Dude, you need to sit down and think a tad. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/264 "2007-02-16T00:05:53Z")
Cripes, I called him a “decrepit old fart.” Some fuckin’ demanding Pit denizens you all are. * * * [QUOTE=Monty] And that somehow makes the organization official…um, how? Dude, you need to sit down and think a tad. [/quote] . And here we have a perfect example of what I wrote about in my first reply to **Lib** : thick as a brick and obviously proud of it too. Sorry, I don’t do crayons, **Monty**. You’ll just have to wait for one of those “more patient” people I wrote about to draw you a clearer picture. Or you could watch the documentary. It’s not rocket science although it obviously appears that way to you. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/265 "2007-02-16T00:16:06Z")
[QUOTE=RedFury] And here we have a perfect example of what I wrote about in my first reply to **Lib** : thick as a brick and obviously proud of it too. [/QUOTE] Dude, you questioning **Monty** ’s intellect is about like Lord Littlebrook (billed as 4’4", 110 pounds) kicking Andre the Giant (billed as 7’4", 500 pounds) in the shins. But not as funny. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/266 "2007-02-16T00:36:21Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] And that somehow makes the organization official…um, how? Dude, you need to sit down and think a tad. [/QUOTE] What does an organization need for you to think it’s “official”? “The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is a US political neo-conservative think tank, based in Washington, DC co-founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan. The group was established in early 1997 as a non-profit organization. The chairman is William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and a regular guest on the Fox News Channel. The group is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project, a 501(c)(3) organization that has been funded by the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation and the Bradley Foundation.[1]” > **[Project for the New American Century](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century)** > > The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was a neoconservative think tank based in Washington, D.C., that focused on United States foreign policy. It was established as a non-profit educational organization in 1997, and founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan. PNAC's stated goal was "to promote American global leadership". The organization stated that "American leadership is good both for America and for the world", and sought to build support for "a Reaganite policy Of the twenty-fi... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/267 "2007-02-16T01:40:05Z")
And, yet, it’s still not an organ of the US government. Go figure. Thanks, **Oakminster**. ---
**Author:** ![buns3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@buns3000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buns3000)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/268 "2007-02-16T10:15:58Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] You know, you really are a worthless piece of shit. And a drunk.\*\* Oakminster \*\*did the honorable thing and chose to make the next level of your conversation private. What do you do? The equivalent of trying to surround yourself with people for protection. “Hey Officers, I’m gonna take this guy ouside and kick his ass. Come watch. Fighting is against the law and you’ll stop it, right?” Why do you choose this course of inaction—I mean, other than you nursing Dewar’s? Because deep down you know about yourself what some posters have learned: that you’re all bluster and no balls. That you are the most common type of cocky coward who confuses the clutching of a scotch bottle with the posession of courage. Your action here has revealed your true spineless character for all to see. And it will not be forgotten soon. And it was all your own doing. A particularly sweet justice. [/QUOTE] Yes, very honorable to threaten to beat someone up in circumstances where you know he is no position to accept your challenge. While **RedFury** gets help with his drinking problem (if he has one), perhaps you and your mate **Oakminster** can get some anger management counselling. You need it. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/269 "2007-02-16T11:39:37Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] And that somehow makes the organization official…um, how? Dude, you need to sit down and think a tad. [/QUOTE] What makes it ‘official’ as so many of the sigs went into the heart of the Bush regime and put there principles into operation with bloody consequences. That is pretty obvious. Unless of course there are two Dick Cheney’s, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis Libby and on the letter to Clinton calling for the overthrow of Saddam by all means including military, John Bolton. Either you knew this and are being disengenuous or you are too uninformed to comment on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/270 "2007-02-16T11:46:19Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] And, yet, it’s still not an organ of the US government… [/QUOTE] Your point being? BTW ever heard of the “Republican Party”? ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/271 "2007-02-16T11:50:17Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] I’m glad you posted this. It brings to light that our whacky military hater is not alone. To his credit, at least he is open an honest about his views. Often around here people like to say that Der Trihs is a tiny exception. So now we have two: **Der Trihs MrDibble** Anyone else have the courage of their convictions? **Kumquat? Tagos?** Anyone? [/QUOTE] Hell, I will throw my balls in the flames too. What do you think you are achieving with your hysterics? Are you composing a list of people who will be the first against the wall? Fucking idiot. People like you make me fucking sick. You apparently have no respect for the laws and values your military is supposed to uphold. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/272 "2007-02-16T12:01:58Z")
[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF] Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t care anymore. I simply remind myself that the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America is among the things that I am sworn to defend, therefore I can take solace in the certain knowledge that he is able to exercise his rights because me and people who came before me ensure that he can. [/QUOTE] Amen. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/273 "2007-02-16T12:07:05Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Thing is, I never threatened him. I did invite him to repeat the statement within arms reach. I have strongly implied that if he were foolish enough to do so, I would react in a manner he found highly unpleasant. That’s not a threat. It’s a conditional hypothetical. If he did X, I would do Y. A threat would be “I’m going to kick HypotheticalPoster01’s ass. I’ll use my uberleet haxxor skills to identify HyptheticalPoster01, travel to wherever he lives, knock on his door, and punch him in the nose. Bop!” [/QUOTE] Wow, you are not only a fucking bully, but you are also a flaming hypocrite douchebag. Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/274 "2007-02-16T12:27:50Z")
Apparently, I was right in my spot diagnoses, tagos. You really are insane. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/275 "2007-02-16T15:37:22Z")
[QUOTE=buns3000] Yes, very honorable to threaten to beat someone up in circumstances where you know he is no position to accept your challenge. While **RedFury** gets help with his drinking problem (if he has one), perhaps you and your mate **Oakminster** can get some anger management counselling. You need it. [/QUOTE] And what you need is a few lessons in reading comprehension. Please show where I threatened to beat someone up. Here is what I wrote—which you quoted: [QUOTE=magellan01] You know, you really are a worthless piece of shit. And a drunk. **Oakminster** did the honorable thing and chose to make the next level of your conversation private. What do you do? The equivalent of trying to surround yourself with people for protection. “Hey Officers, I’m gonna take this guy ouside and kick his ass. Come watch. Fighting is against the law and you’ll stop it, right?” Why do you choose this course of inaction—I mean, other than you nursing Dewar’s? Because deep down you know about yourself what some posters have learned: that you’re all bluster and no balls. That you are the most common type of cocky coward who confuses the clutching of a scotch bottle with the posession of courage. Your action here has revealed your true spineless character for all to see. And it will not be forgotten soon. And it was all your own doing. A particularly sweet justice. [/QUOTE] The entire post is a commentary on how **PinkFury** handled his problem with **Oakminster.** You’ll be able to determine that for yourself after those reading comprehension lessons. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/276 "2007-02-16T15:43:06Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] Apparently, I was right in my spot diagnoses, tagos. You really are insane. [/QUOTE] Look dude, if you want to continue proving that you are stupid please continue. But you’re just embarrassing yourself now and I’m beginning to wonder if you really do have some sort of learning impairment. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/277 "2007-02-16T15:51:08Z")
[QUOTE=Scoundrel Swanswater] Hell, I will throw my balls in the flames too. What do you think you are achieving with your hysterics? Are you composing a list of people who will be the first against the wall? Fucking idiot. People like you make me fucking sick. You apparently have no respect for the laws and values your military is supposed to uphold. [/QUOTE] Excellent. Headway. Now we have three whacky self -professed military haters. So, Der Shit is not the lone exception as has been cliamed on these boards more then once. Anyone else want to step up and at least get credit for being honest, as they have? Anyone? \*\*Der Trihs MrDibble Scoundrel Swanswater Scoundrel\*\*, thanks for the info about me making you sick. I hope to return the favor and pass some good news on to you someday. And you may want to reread the thread. If you do, this time around you might notice that I’ve argued that the likes of you three should be allowed to speak your mind. I think two other posters had, in fact, commented on that. But thanks again. The day starts off on a positive note. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/278 "2007-02-16T16:00:37Z")
[QUOTE=tagos] What makes it ‘official’ as so many of the sigs went into the heart of the Bush regime and put there principles into operation with bloody consequences. That is pretty obvious. [/QUOTE] Just because their ideas may have eventually been adopted does not make them an official arm of the government, or even of the Republican party. And you might want to think about why you put the “official” in quotes. Makes it rather oxymoronic and undermines the very point you are trying to make. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/279 "2007-02-16T16:13:41Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] Just because their ideas may have eventually been adopted does not make them an official arm of the government, or even of the Republican party. And you might want to think about why you put the “official” in quotes. Makes it rather oxymoronic and undermines the very point you are trying to make. [/QUOTE] That is just childish hair splitting and you either know that, in which case you should not be using such a school boy debating tactic, or you need to wise up. The reality of the situation is that an organisation has both set the US foreign policy for this decade and then provided the self-same people the the Executive to implement it. And they have tried to implement it with dreadful results. To carp on about the precise dictionary definition of official as if this is some ‘neener, neener’ playground game instead of a discussion about something of deadly and long lasting impact on the domestic and world scene is petty, an insult to the intelligence of a whelk and a slap in the collective face of everyone these people have gotten killed or maimed. The PNAC took over US Foreign policy and their ideas and their people remain in control and remain trying to sell us imaginary victory in Iraq and foist a new war on us in Iran. Can’t you see just how pathetic it is for people like you and Monty to carp about the narrow meaning of a term in this ‘gotcha’ way as if it is in any sense clever or relevant compared to the actual continuing problem? Somehow I think you’re both so poisoned and blinded by partisanship, so steeped in denial, and so pickled by fear and blind hatred that you can’t. It’s kind of sad really. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/280 "2007-02-16T16:25:52Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] Excellent. Headway. Now we have three whacky self -professed military haters. So, Der Shit is not the lone exception as has been cliamed on these boards more then once. Anyone else want to step up and at least get credit for being honest, as they have? Anyone? \*\*Der Trihs MrDibble Scoundrel Swanswater Scoundrel\*\*, thanks for the info about me making you sick. I hope to return the favor and pass some good news on to you someday. And you may want to reread the thread. If you do, this time around you might notice that I’ve argued that the likes of you three should be allowed to speak your mind. I think two other posters had, in fact, commented on that. But thanks again. The day starts off on a positive note. [/QUOTE] Yeah, we are allowed to speak our mind so you can make your little pathetic list of _military haters_. :rolleyes: And for your information : I don’t hate the military, I just think the Iraqi people have the right to take up arms against an illegal occupying force. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089.md?page=15)