# Der Trihs, a moment of your time, if you would. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 13, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089 "2007-02-13T22:53:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/101 "2007-02-14T15:45:22Z")
[QUOTE=El\_Kabong] **Sarafeena** , I think if you check the laws in the area you live in, you may find that being verbally insulted is insufficient legal grounds for physically attacking someone. Even if most people are sympathetic to givin’ our poster boy a righteous beatdown, the law tends to look unkindly on persons who commit violence on others when they are not themselves under threat. As someone who despises bullies, I’m right on board with that. If you don’t like what **Der Trihs** has to say, say so. Threatening him with violence, much less actually carrying it out, does not make you or the others look particularly noble or righteous. Anyway, you said it yourself. **Der Trihs** hides behind his anonymity, **Oakminster** and the other blustering bullies who suggest they’d like to hurt him hide behind theirs. Fact is, none of them are ever likely to actually confront each other, so it’s just another pointless pissing contest. [/QUOTE] I wasn’t talking about what’s legal, and I am not even taking a stand on whether or not it’s “noble” or “righteous.” I was talking about what happens sometimes when one guy directly personally insults another guy, or someone in his family. My opinion is that **Der Trihs** wouldn’t take that risk in real life. Therefore, you are right, the confrontation would not be likely to happen in real life, because I sincerely doubt that **Oakminster** is a bully, or would do anything to start a fight that wasn’t provoked. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/102 "2007-02-14T15:45:52Z")
[QUOTE=Mellivora capensis] _Stadig, my vriend, stadig. Die reels maak nie altyd sin nie, maar hulle bly nog steeds die reels. Ek wil nie sien dat hulle jou ook verbied nie._ [/QUOTE] The rules of this forum require that you post only in English. Please do not do otherwise again. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/103 "2007-02-14T15:50:07Z")
[QUOTE=fluiddruid] The rules of this forum require that you post only in English. Please do not do otherwise again. [/QUOTE] [You win the slow draw contest.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8258592&postcount=97) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/104 "2007-02-14T15:50:11Z")
[QUOTE=bluethree] The scariest thing is that he’s not a kid. He’s thirty-eight. :eek: [/QUOTE] This is the only surprising thing I’ve seen so far in this thread. I’d always assumed **Der Trihs** to be a college student, or at least of that age. His posts are certainly as strident, dogmatic, and shallow as those of the Budding Youth Who’s Figured It All Out. Pity that he appears to belong to the unfortunate few who fail to grow past that phase. ---
**Author:** ![Mellivora\_capensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mellivora\_capensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mellivora_capensis)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/105 "2007-02-14T15:50:17Z")
[QUOTE=fluiddruid] The rules of this forum require that you post only in English. Please do not do otherwise again. [/QUOTE] Roger that. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/106 "2007-02-14T16:38:44Z")
[QUOTE=Mellivora capensis] Roger that. [/QUOTE] So would you mind translating for those of us who don’t speak German? ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/107 "2007-02-14T17:21:29Z")
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar] So would you mind translating for those of us who don’t speak German? [/QUOTE] I think it’s Dutch and no I haven’t a clue ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/108 "2007-02-14T17:26:10Z")
Afrikaans, I think. I believe it translates to something like - “The rules do not always make sense, but they are still the rules, and I don’t want you to get banned.” Or perhaps I have no idea what I am talking about. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/109 "2007-02-14T17:28:57Z")
[QUOTE=El\_Kabong] Why do you wish this? Would you physically attack him if he did? Do you consider it morally correct to harm someone who has in fact committed no physical harm to you? Do you actually beleive you could not be arrested and charged for attacking someone simply for them having expressed an opinion you don’t agree with? Christ almighty, get a grip. Yes, **Der Trihs** is a first-class jerk, but the people here who are saying they’d like nothing better than to get their hands on him are pretty disgusting as well. [/QUOTE] I wish this because I would give him the berating of a lifetime. I’m a middle aged woman and I’ve never gotten into a physical fight out of anger. However, I do like the idea of someone like, say, Oakminster, getting his hands on Der Trish. If this makes me a slavering animal, so be it. Schadenfreude runs strong in my people. I do believe I would be arrested and charged for attacking a person. Good thing I’m not going to do that. Pretty sure I can’t be arrested for berating someone, though. As for not caring if he dies, why should I? Lots of people die and it doesn’t faze me, and most of them never wished painful death on my nearest and dearest. To get away from thoughts of death, does anybody else here predict that a few years down the line Dear Trish is going to be one of those fake veterans that does it for the attention? I definitely get that feeling about him. One time he talked about how he was “on the front lines” of the war against the war, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/110 "2007-02-14T17:53:40Z")
Does anyone still actually pay attention to this guy? I stopped reading his posts back when he said he would personally kill any and every US Soldier if he had the ability. When someone says the fight is useless, futile, not in the interest of the American people, a waste of blood, our youth, and our money… a pointless endeavour started by the vengeful rage of a madman… a political stunt, a murderous operation intended to seize petrolium assets… Those things I can listen to. I will hear out that viewpoint which is opposite of mine. I will listen with an open mind and try hard to test my personal beliefs and find why I still believe it’s worth fighting and is a cause worth sacrificing my own life for. Regardless of what lies or spin got us there, we are there. The initial intentions of the President are irrelevant to me at this point. I believe there is a chance to give the children and future children of Iraq a safe, prosperous country. One _of_ the people, _for_ the people. I believe there is that chance. I will fight to give them that chance, and I am willing to die to give them that oppurtunity. I don’t, however, believe I am making present day Americans any safer by being over there. Arguably, a success in Iraq might make the future of America somewhat safer or more peaceful, but that is not my motivation. The blood I spill in Iraq will be _for_ Iraq, and the for future generations born on that soil–not for Americans or American interest. I dont personally believe that every action the US Military engages in must somehow directly benefit our people or our country. I believe that doing things for the sake of good and for the sake of what’s right, is reason enough. But when someone just outright says he would like to kill every American Soldier just on principle, and outright accuses every soldier as being a rapist of all things… such a person is too damn stupid and much too dogmatic for me to even bother replying to. Rapists? Every soldier? He’s a fucking idiot, plane and simple. The shit which spews from his keyboard effects me in much the same way as a publicly burned American Flag. It does not anger me. It gives me an overwelming sense of pride. I don’t want to see him banned or silenced. I love the fact that this country allows even the most inane and idiotic contemptuous speech. Preech on, **trihs**! You’re an idiot and I’m both proud and honored to let you post as much nonsensical hate and contempt for this nation as you wish. Keep typing, keep screaming. I dont have to give your posts a second thought, and if I dont like what you say (and I dont), it’s simply too easy for me to skip it and move on to the next post. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/111 "2007-02-14T18:07:16Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Kill is your word, he said ‘refuse to fight’. [/QUOTE] What? What point are you trying to make? I’m perfectly aware of what he wrote. I quoted them. Twice. Based on them I asked another question. That’s kinda how it works. YOumight want to peruse a few hundred threads and see if you can notice the pattern. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/112 "2007-02-14T18:25:43Z")
[QUOTE=tagos] I missed this gem of a reply. You sir are an ignorant savage. If you do not know by now how intelligence was cooked up then you are wilfully ignorant. And if you also want to hide behind euphemisms you are a moral coward. You don’t seem to realise we aren’t at war in Iraq - we are an occupying power bound by the Geneva Conventions. There is no excuse whatsoever for bombing random wedding parties or shelling cities or shooting up motirists whose driving we don’t like the look of. We di make a bloody good effort to flatten Fasllujah and we did turn back all men of military age (under 50) who tried to leave the area. It was the act of barbarians. [/QUOTE] I’m glad you contributed this. Each paragraph has it’s own special brand of Ignorance flavored with Kumbayaism. Now I know for certain you are just another leftist idiot who understands nothing about war and doesn’t have the backbone to do what is necessary. Everything we have done over there has been done in an effort to reduce and prevent more killing. Sorry to have to break this to you and other Shehanites, but people die in wars. Or police actions. Or whatever else you would like to call it. I just thank God there weren’t more of your ilk around during WWII. > [@](#): > > Thanks. Reading for comprehension, along with it seems the ability to think outside of narrow Bush-bot programming, is clearly not among his limited skill-set. And all that spittle and froth probably gets in the eyes so we need to cut him some slack. I refer you to the painfully obvious advice I supplied to **What Exit?** : I’m perfectly aware of the words you wrote. I quoted them. Twice. Based on them I asked another question. That’s kinda how it works. You might want to peruse a few hundred threads and see if you can notice the pattern. Auf Wiedersehen. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/113 "2007-02-14T18:29:43Z")
[QUOTE=Bear\_Nenno] Does anyone still actually pay attention to this guy? [/QUOTE] This is my surprised question too. I mean, if the guy were up on a soapbox in the public square screaming his opinions, I’d listen for a minute, think “Huh. Whack-job,” and then I’d move on. The things he says are so blatantly outrageous that it’s not just that I _disagree_ with them, it’s that they indicate a moral system that is completely inconsistent with my own. So there’s no need for attempted communication, because it’s not as if we’re on the same page, or even in the same book. Heck, we’re not even in the same library in the same town. He’s over there, in Crazyville, and I’m over here, where life’s not perfect and lots of people hold lots of opinions about the conflicts in Iraq or elsewhere – but no one’s wishing death on anybody. So there’s no common ground at all. The value of his contributions (or lack thereof) are so blazingly obvious I’m surprised anyone reacts with anything other than a yawn. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/114 "2007-02-14T18:35:11Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] What? What point are you trying to make? I’m perfectly aware of what he wrote. I quoted them. Twice. Based on them I asked another question. That’s kinda how it works. YOumight want to peruse a few hundred threads and see if you can notice the pattern. [/QUOTE] Okay, that is fair, I mistakingly thought you were accusing the poster of a sentiment he did not indicate. I am sorry. **Bear\_Nenno** , thank you for your post, you said much better, what I was trying to say. Jim ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/115 "2007-02-14T18:41:19Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Okay, that is fair, I mistakingly thought you were accusing the poster of a sentiment he did not indicate. I am sorry. [/QUOTE] No problem. Thank you for handling this the sane, reasonable manner you did. It is a lesson for us all. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/116 "2007-02-14T18:46:07Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] Afrikaans, I think. I believe it translates to something like - “The rules do not always make sense, but they are still the rules, and I don’t want you to get banned.” Or perhaps I have no idea what I am talking about. Regards, Shodan [/QUOTE] Heh. And now I know that either Afrikaans is not as close to Dutch as I thought, or else Babelfish’s Dutch really sucks. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/117 "2007-02-14T18:47:06Z")
[QUOTE=tagos] Oh come on. You really want a cite for that sentiment? You pick sides you wish death on the opposition. Trihs is just more upfront about the implications of picking sides and has picked the wrong one in most people’s eyes. My limited search skills found this recent one but you and I both know there is a regular outpouring of rage at massacres and a tendency to turn a euphemistic blind eye to ‘collateral damage’. [From here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8228091&postcount=1) [/QUOTE] Eh. Not really the same, and the guy is a Guest poster. Look, like it or not, the US is in Iraq with the consent of the legitimate government of that country, and acts in agreement with the laws of that country. It’s not substantially different from UN peacekeepers in other parts of the world. I’m really surprised you can’t see a difference between actions taken by a legitimate government to keep order and actions taken by groups intent on overthrowing a legitimate government by violence, purposing killing as many civilians as it can in the process. ---
**Author:** ![Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Throatwarbler_Mangrove)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/118 "2007-02-14T18:49:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Regardless of what lies or spin got us there, we are there. The initial intentions of the President are irrelevant to me at this point. I believe there is a chance to give the children and future children of Iraq a safe, prosperous country. One of the people, for the people. I believe there is that chance. I will fight to give them that chance, and I am willing to die to give them that oppurtunity. I don’t, however, believe I am making present day Americans any safer by being over there. Arguably, a success in Iraq might make the future of America somewhat safer or more peaceful, but that is not my motivation. The blood I spill in Iraq will be for Iraq, and the for future generations born on that soil–not for Americans or American interest. I dont personally believe that every action the US Military engages in must somehow directly benefit our people or our country. I believe that doing things for the sake of good and for the sake of what’s right, is reason enough. If I may, this is, in a nutshell, the reason why choosing to joing the military at this point, and being “for the war”, so to speak, can still be a perfectly moral choice, no matter how much one may despise Bush and his administration. I’ve never gotten around to typing it out. It’s certainly a much more moral and noble choice than the myriads of people who not advocate a speedy withdraw without regard for the consequences for the Iraqi people. Many of the same myriads, by simple elimination, would be the same dumbkopfs who had previously been supportive of the invasion based on an uncritical assessment of the “WMD” baloney that was presented to them by Bush, and are now backpeddling in the ultimate display of American arrogance, irresponsibility and selfishness. “Get the troops home”? They could have just STAYED home and not joined the damn army. How about “Get the job done”? I understand that many of you may hold the position that the war is now unwinnable, Bush’s incompetence isn’t helping any. The war in 1941 looked unwinnable too, would you rather keep trying, or give up and accept the ghastly consequences? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/119 "2007-02-14T19:04:48Z")
**Der Trihs** has said he has Asperger’s. Most of his posts should be read in [that light](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbergers#Social_differences). When he advocates killing U.S. servicemen, he is incapable of understanding how that might read to someone that has family there. That part of his brain just doesn’t function. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089/120 "2007-02-14T19:28:57Z")
[Quote=bluethree] I wish this because I would give him the berating of a lifetime. I’m a middle aged woman and I’ve never gotten into a physical fight out of anger. However, I do like the idea of someone like, say, Oakminster, getting his hands on Der Trish. If this makes me a slavering animal, so be it. Schadenfreude runs strong in my people. [/Quote] Er, OK, so actually you’d like someone to beat him up by proxy. I can’t say that sounds all that much better. Anyway, my point is, how precisely does **Oakminster** ’s presumed ability to best **Der Trihs** in a fistfight make his view the correct one? Either **DT** is right or he is wrong. Or, and I know how popular this opinion is going to be, he is wrong about many things but right about some others. Look, I’ve already agreed he’s a jerk, and, near as I can tell, most of the persons posting to this thread agree as well. The blustering some of y’all are indulging in contributes nothing of much substance except to once again demonstrate how enjoyable a lot of people find it to identify someone as a fit subject for personal punishment. You have the floor here, and you could just as easily berate him here if you like. You don’t want to engage him, you just want to insult him back in as painful a way as possible. Well, go ahead and cut loose; it would be just as effective to do so here as anywhere else. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-a-moment-of-your-time-if-you-would/392089.md?page=7)