# Der Trihs, do you realize how goofy you come across? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109 "2007-08-27T16:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/121 "2007-08-29T07:51:23Z")
> [@](#): > > I think what it boils down to is certain folks here simply can’t stomach consistent, persistent, unapologetic, unrepentent liberalism. I _am_ a consistent, persistent, unapologetic, unrepentent liberal. **Der Trihs** believes that he is, but he is far too hostile. He wants to kill for peace, yaknow? If you examine his beliefs closely, you will find that he believes in the freedom to have things done his way. That’s called Authoritarianism. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/122 "2007-08-29T11:37:13Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] Read my post #49 and tell me where you disagree on the subject of fundies. DT is being hyperbolic and going too far, but the basic idea is not irredeemably stupid. [/QUOTE] Untrue. DT wasn’t being hyperbolic; rather, he defended the statement as being fundamentally true. To dismiss this as mere hyperbole is a severe misrepresentation of what DT claimed. ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/123 "2007-08-29T12:01:29Z")
Worst thing about Der Trihs is that I don’t hate simply everything about him. I’d like to just ignore him, but I make it a point of not ignoring someone who’s smart enough to possibly be right. of course with his refusal to ever, ever admit he’s wrong and his consistent damnation of all things Military, American, Religous, or God forbid all of the above, then I guess it’s just a bit of nasty that has to go along with the smart, but I do think he’s a smart guy. Just wish he’d tone it down a bit. All of those who serve or have served in the past aren’t automatically rapists and baby-killers and it’s quite insulting to assume we have no brains. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/124 "2007-08-29T16:09:26Z")
[QUOTE=DianaG] But to be fair, I’ve never seen the kind of just plan stupid from \*\*Der Trihs \*\* that I see regularly from **Shodan**. [/quote] Ahem - “plan” stupid? 🙂 **Gaudere** strikes again. > [@](#): > > Also, \*\*Der Trihs \*\* doesn’t spew a bunch of condescending, “I heard it on talk radio so it must be true” bullshit and then sign off with “Regards”, which frankly sets my teeth on edge. Since we are accusing people of not backing up what they say, and not to hijack, but no doubt you can come up with “a bunch” of posts where I presented “I heard it on talk radio” as a valid cite. As to the rest of it - Well, you know what goes here. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/125 "2007-08-29T16:45:37Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] I think what it boils down to is certain folks here simply can’t stomach consistent, persistent, unapologetic, unrepentent liberalism which, when presented in an ostensibly abrasive manner, give neocon- and social conservative-leaning posters the vapors. Certainly **Der Trihs** uses somewhat hyperbolic styling in presenting his positions, but that shouldn’t detract the intelligent reader from understanding the core of his thesis. [/quote] I wasn’t going to wade into this, but I have to respond to this. I don’t like people who are intentionally offensive. I have no interest in standing in a shit-storm to talk to _anyone_ and I insist that people be minimally civil or I just won’t engage them, period. I think I have been pretty upfront with this as a position and I know I’ve been consistent in applying it. I’m not saying I’m the acme of civility and respect on every occasion – I know I am not – but then I also extend to everyone else the privilege to stop talking to me when I offend them, am on notice that I am being offensive, and intentionally choose not to stop. So it’s not like I am claiming some high ground that no one else can take. I have no problem with “liberalism,” and I certainly don’t see that philosophy as something requiring apology or repentance, any more than any other philosophy. But there is nothing “ostensibly” abrasive or “somewhat hyperbolic” about **Der Trihs’s** style; it is flat-out abrasive and I see little indication he intends his words to be taken as hyperbole. So to the extent his posts give me “the vapors” (whatever the hell that means), it is not at all what he says, it is 100% how he says it. I might in fact be able to “understand the core of his thesis,” “intelligent reader” that I flatter myself I am, but I am under no obligation to dig through shit for diamonds. I have no dog in this fight – he can post all day long every day for all I care, anyone who doesn’t like him can ignore him, as I mostly do – but it’s complete BS to construe all distaste for his posting style as fear of or stupidity about his pet philosophies. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/126 "2007-08-29T20:00:30Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] I have no problem with “liberalism,” and I certainly don’t see that philosophy as something requiring apology or repentance, any more than any other philosophy. But there is nothing “ostensibly” abrasive or “somewhat hyperbolic” about **Der Trihs’s** style; it is flat-out abrasive and I see little indication he intends his words to be taken as hyperbole. So to the extent his posts give me “the vapors” (whatever the hell that means), it is not at all what he says, it is 100% how he says it. I might in fact be able to “understand the core of his thesis,” “intelligent reader” that I flatter myself I am, but I am under no obligation to dig through shit for diamonds. [/QUOTE] I’m more shocked about the poor sentence structure in my post than your response :eek:. Anyway, I happy to see you’ve agreed with one of my points in that it’s not typically what \*\*Der Trihs \*\* says that raises the ire of many readers, but how he chooses to say it. I can’t speak for him, but I’d wager if all American troops decided today to disobey orders en masse, lay down their arms, and refuse to be the instruments of the continued prosecution of the illegal war perpetrated on the citizenry of Iraq any further \*\*Der Trihs \*\* would cease in his desire to see their entrails on a spit. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/127 "2007-08-29T20:11:25Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] I can’t speak for him, but I’d wager if all American troops decided today to disobey orders en masse, lay down their arms, and refuse to be the instruments of the continued prosecution of the illegal war perpetrated on the citizenry of Iraq any further \*\*Der Trihs \*\* would cease in his desire to see their entrails on a spit. [/QUOTE] And? And if a hole was found on a location other than an ass it wouldn’t be an asshole. So what. If he didn’t reveal himself to be insane so often we’d all view him as reasonable? WTF? You’re merely defiining away that which makes DT, DT. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/128 "2007-08-29T21:10:46Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] I’m more shocked about the poor sentence structure in my post than your response :eek:. Anyway, I happy to see you’ve agreed with one of my points in that it’s not typically what \*\*Der Trihs \*\* says that raises the ire of many readers, but how he chooses to say it. [/QUOTE] When he offers up the idea that it would be a good thing if all the US servincemen and women in Iraq were killed, I’m appalled at what he says and how he says it. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/129 "2007-08-29T21:26:57Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] \*\*Der Trihs \*\* would cease in his desire to see their entrails on a spit. [/QUOTE] Just briefly. He’d soon gear up Rocinante to find another target. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/130 "2007-08-29T21:44:34Z")
[QUOTE=Charlie Tan] Just briefly. He’d soon gear up Rocinante to find another target. [/QUOTE] If that were the case he’d lose many a Sancho – which he has as this thread clearly shows. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/131 "2007-08-29T23:49:24Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] When he offers up the idea that it would be a good thing if all the US servincemen and women in Iraq were killed, I’m appalled at what he says and how he says it. [/QUOTE] Pretty much. What’s the point of opposing the war if you want all of OUR people dead? Wouldn’t continuing the war achieve just that? ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/132 "2007-08-30T00:01:19Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] I can’t speak for him, but I’d wager if all American troops decided today to disobey orders en masse, lay down their arms, and refuse to be the instruments of the continued prosecution of the illegal war perpetrated on the citizenry of Iraq any further \*\*Der Trihs \*\* would cease in his desire to see their entrails on a spit. [/QUOTE] I fail to see the relevance of this as a response. If my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle. ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/133 "2007-08-30T04:44:50Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] When he offers up the idea that it would be a good thing if all the US servicemen and women in Iraq were killed, I’m appalled at what he says and how he says it. [/QUOTE] I fail to see why this is controversial. Wasn’t that the deal? Support for the war insofar as WMD will appear. If that condition fails all decent and reasonable people applaud every blow to the US presence in Iraq. I mean I’m right aren’t I? The sole basis of support for the US presence is from Americans, because they are Americans. Racism: to turn a phrase. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/134 "2007-08-30T05:36:02Z")
[QUOTE=Sapo] That’s an abomination, a **monstrosity**. I find you repulsive. Next thing your people will be setting children on fire and dancing to your make believe perversion of a **monstruous monstrosity** that is a monster of **monstrative monstrification**. Monster. [/QUOTE] Thou shalt not take my name in vain!!! ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/135 "2007-08-30T07:43:17Z")
[QUOTE=Sevastopol] I fail to see why this is controversial. Wasn’t that the deal? Support for the war insofar as WMD will appear. If that condition fails all decent and reasonable people applaud every blow to the US presence in Iraq. I mean I’m right aren’t I? The sole basis of support for the US presence is from Americans, because they are Americans. Racism: to turn a phrase. [/QUOTE] Oh fer fuck’s sake… please say this is a whoosh. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/136 "2007-08-30T08:09:49Z")
Not familiar with **Sevastopol** , are you? ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/137 "2007-08-30T08:55:12Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Thou shalt not take my name in vain!!! [/QUOTE] My sincerest apologies, Sir. I didn’t realize that DT meant you when he uses it. Soooo, where do you stand on Bush and the Pope? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/138 "2007-08-30T09:02:28Z")
[QUOTE=Alessan] Not familiar with **Sevastopol** , are you? [/QUOTE] Or the American race. ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/139 "2007-08-30T09:24:49Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Or the American race. [/QUOTE] I’m just gonna shut up now, as I have no earthly idea what you lot are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109/140 "2007-08-30T09:52:52Z")
[QUOTE=GomiBoy] I’m just gonna shut up now, as I have no earthly idea what you lot are talking about. [/QUOTE] NASCAR, I imagine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-do-you-realize-how-goofy-you-come-across/417109.md?page=8)