# Der Trihs is a Misogynistic Jackass who gives both progressives and men a bad name

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**Created:** [August 17, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748 "2012-08-17T04:26:41Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/241 "2012-09-12T00:45:04Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> \*\*Der Trihs \*\*spews distilled vitriol in every Christian thread but since some is deserved and seriously parsing morality and how it relates to the modern world from a Bronze Age allegory is so absurd I find his contributions nevertheless refreshing.

[Iron Age](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age).

Sorry for the pedantry, but I got curious. The Iron Age extends from 1300 BC - 400AD but of course varies by location. Some place the Roman era from 1-400AD, but I’ll just wave my hands.

> **[Iron Age](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age#Southern_Europe)**
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> The Iron Age (c. 1200 – c. 550 BC) is the final epoch of the three historical Metal Ages, after the Chalcolithic and Bronze Age. It has also been considered as the final age of the three-age division starting with prehistory (before recorded history) and progressing to protohistory (before written history). In this usage, it is preceded by the Stone Age (subdivided into the Paleolithic, Mesolithic and Neolithic) and Bronze Age. These concepts originated for describing Iron Age Europe and the a

> **[List of archaeological periods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archaeological_periods)**
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> The names for archaeological periods vary enormously from region to region. This is a list of the main divisions by continent and region. Dating also varies considerably and those given are broad approximations across wide areas.
> The three-age system has been used in many areas, referring to the prehistorical and historical periods identified by tool manufacture and use, of Stone Age, Bronze Age and Iron Age. Since these ages are distinguished by the development of technology, it is natural th...

I have to admit, Bronze Age allegory is a superior putdown.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/242 "2012-09-12T02:29:55Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Well to the extent that you’re not putting it forth in the context of a response to what I’ve said, then yes, it’s nice and clear.
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> But my actual point here was that “anyone who uses their own personal experiences as a trump card in a debate, as you did, is fair game for having their veracity questioned”.
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> That’s my point and I’m sticking to it, “complete douche” or not.

Are you sure that’s how that works? What you’re saying is that when you find out that somebody has personal experience with and knowledge of the thing you’re actually talking about, instead of saying “oh, fuck, you know something and I don’t; I guess I can go to hell,” you can basically declare victory by pissing them off and then pointing out that they’re pissed off?

So like if you’re arguing about what is it probably like on the moon, and the person you’re arguing with shows you his god-damned astronaut’s license, you can just tell them it’s photoshopped and then if he calls you a dumbass for that, you win? Or does this only apply to, you know, girly feelings?

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/243 "2012-09-12T13:42:26Z")

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There is frequently other evidence that can be be brought to bear other than one person’s feelings.

In addition, you are misrepresenting the situation here, in that the one “declaring victory” was the one with the personal experiences, not the other way around. _She_ was saying “no one can argue with me because I had this experience and they didn’t”.

And similarly, you’re comparing to a different type of situaton in which the person you’re arguing with shows actual evidence (“astronaut’s license”), which has a bearing on the extent to which their authority can be questioned - perhaps you can explain why you chose that situation and not one actually comparable to the one at hand.

Lastly, it’s not like DT asserted outright that Olives made up or distorted her experience. He merely noted in passing that it was a possibility.

In sum, your analogy and arguments fail for a number of reasons, and the logic remains as I’ve said. Try to argue based on your own authority, you need to accept some degree of questioning of that authority.

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