# Der Trihs is a Misogynistic Jackass who gives both progressives and men a bad name **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748 "2012-08-17T04:26:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/101 "2012-08-18T04:04:59Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > That is what I can’t stand the most about him. He cowardly refuses to participate in pittings of him. If he did so because he objects to the tone of the pit I would have no problem with it. But he joins in on pittings of others. That’s just cowardice. Par for the course for an Internet tough guy. Frankly I think his participation in his pittings would be largely pointless. And he doesn’t frequent the pit. Of his last 25 posts, 21 have been in Great Debates: none were in the pit. 26-50: None in the pit 51-75: None in the pit 76-100: None in the pit 101-125: 1 post in the pit! Here it is! [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15367354&postcount=30](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15367354&postcount=30) That’s from a pittting of Joan Rivers, who to my knowledge is not an active member of this board. 126-150: We have another! He makes a joke: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15360180&postcount=5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15360180&postcount=5) That brings us back to 8/6. So over about 11 days we have 2 posts to the BBQ Pit, neither one of which were directed against an active member: both were jokes. FTR, I recall a time a couple of years ago when he said it was his policy not to respond to his own pittings (with exceptions) but at the same time he avoided pitting others. Fair is fair or so he said, IIRC. Glancing over his other contributions: yes, most involved pronounced hyper-ventilation. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/102 "2012-08-18T04:20:42Z")
I now want to rape Iraqi women ('cuz they’re so HOT) at gunpoint while I scream “\*\*DerTrihs \*\*said I’d do this!” at them while I give them unwanted pregnancies. And shit. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/103 "2012-08-18T08:24:06Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I now want to rape Iraqi women ('cuz they’re so HOT) at gunpoint while I scream “\*\*DerTrihs \*\*said I’d do this!” at them while I give them unwanted pregnancies. And shit. And if you’re a true Christian you will then handcuff them to the bed for nine months and rub your hands gloating as they die in childbirth, if I’ve correctly understood the **Gospel According To Der**. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/104 "2012-08-18T08:38:32Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > And if you’re a true Christian you will then handcuff them to the bed for nine months and rub your hands gloating as they die in childbirth, if I’ve correctly understood the **Gospel According To Der**. I think to complete the circle you also have to impregnate a woman and conspire to bleed some poor unsuspecting sap dry via _lightning flash_ _horse cries_ CHILD SUPPORT _lightning flash_ _organ music_ ---
**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/105 "2012-08-18T09:23:49Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > No. But your comment was so stupid I felt a Der-Like response was warranted. 😃 > > Ontopic: I think Der’s big problem is he speaks in absolutes. If you mentally include a (some) into his statements, they are all pretty reasonable. > > Watch: > Republicans are bloodthirsty savages who want the country to fail because a black man is at the helm. \<–overdoing it a bit > > Some Republicans are bloodthirsty savages who want the country to fail because a black man is at the helm. \<–true! Uh huh. So “Timothy McVeigh’s bombing of the federal Building in Oklahoma City was supported by some Republican congressmen” is pretty reasonable to you? You have a strange definition of reasonable. That comment is just batshit insane no matter how many times you insert the word “some”. And Der Trihs has made such comments in almost every thread I have followed him in. They aren’t reasonable but too absolute. They are the insane rantings of a man who has gone, barking fucking mad. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/106 "2012-08-18T14:41:06Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I don’t either. I think his anger reaches far beyond misogyny, was my only point. It used to be almost a cliche to say “I am not a bigot; I hate everyone”, and it’s always annoyed me. I have a soft spot in my heart for true misanthropes: I kind of admire the independent spirit and self-containment implied by a person that really just doesn’t like anyone, that dislikes people for their persistent people-ness. Der Trihs is the antithesis of that. I do feel sorry for him, though. I think he truly believes in the world he is always talking about, one where Capitalistic Fat Cats sit around smoking cigars and boasting about how much money they made feeding chalk dust to minority babies, where Bush actually sat down with Cheney and said 'What the best way to kill Arabs and Iraqis? Some sort of invasion? Start a civil war?", where every cop he sees he knows is a man who lives only to beat and abuse people, every military uniform represents someone who would drown babies with a smile if they were ordered to, every woman he encounters is plotting to get whatever she can from him and would see ruining his life as a bonus. It must be a hellish place to live. ---
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/107 "2012-08-18T14:45:42Z")
> [@Stoneburg](#): > > I think Der Trihs is interesting, makes good arguments and is intelletually stimulating. He can indeed be abrasive, but would not qualify for a top ten position in that ranking in my opinion. He tends to be a bit black/white and uses hyperbole a lot, but it’s still on an intellectual level. > > I think this pit thread is a bit lame. Speculating on his sex life etc… not very mature. All in all I think Der Trihs contributes in a positive way to this board, wheras this thread does not. +1 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/108 "2012-08-18T16:07:14Z")
> [@newcomer](#): > > +1 -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/109 "2012-08-18T16:40:43Z")
A couple of years back, someone started an MPSIMS thread for women to discuss their experiences of being raped and sexually abused. He and a few other posters hijacked the thread when _women who had been raped_ admitted the resulting anxiety and fearfulness around strange men/circumstances similar to the rape. He attacked the rape victims for being sexist, because they had PTSD. The level of vitriol he had was just insane. It was probably one of the single most disturbing things I’ve witnessed here. And even more disturbingly, he frequently references that thread as ‘‘evidence’’ that women view all men as potential rapists. That is seriously what he got out of that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/110 "2012-08-18T17:24:28Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 +1 ---
**Author:** ![Makeitstop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bb73d2/32.png) [@Makeitstop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Makeitstop)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/111 "2012-08-18T17:28:23Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 = -999,999,999,999,999,999,999, right? ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/112 "2012-08-18T17:30:07Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > George Bush killed because of HIS beliefs, Der Trihs has managed NOT to kill hundreds of thousands. This makes him infinitely less bad than GWB. Hope that clears that up for you. But not because of his religious beliefs but due to Bush’s views on American strategy which somebody Christopher Hitchens (incidentally a far more likable and less self-righteous anti-theist activist than **Der Trihs** ) supported ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/113 "2012-08-18T18:54:18Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > But not because of his religious beliefs but due to Bush’s views on American strategy which somebody Christopher Hitchens (incidentally a far more likable and less self-righteous anti-theist activist than **Der Trihs** ) supported Well, no, many former friends did dislike Hitchens for his full of fail reasons on supporting the war in Iraq. He thought that his biggest failure was not to convince others of following his folly: > **[Christopher Hitchens: 'I was right and they were wrong'](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/may/22/christopher-hitchens-decca-aitkenhead)** > > Hero of the left, neocon turncoat, and still battling on: Christopher Hitchens talks to Decca Aitkenhead about old arguments and his new memoir > [@](#): > > Similarly, his memoir contains an extended and frankly sentimental tribute to a US soldier killed in Iraq, an intelligent young man with deep misgivings about the war, who had been persuaded to sign up only by reading Hitchens. (“Sentimental? I was hoping to avoid sentimentality,” Hitchens objects – and to his credit it’s the only criticism that visibly offends him.) If he really wanted to win the argument – that the war was worth it, however tragic the loss of life – surely a shrewd polemicist would honour Iraqi civilian deaths with the same grief he accords one American soldier. He blames his former comrades for failing to be persuaded by his case for invading Iraq: “Yes, absolutely. I was right and they were wrong, that’s pretty much it in a nutshell.” He laughs. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/114 "2012-08-18T21:14:24Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > A couple of years back, someone started an MPSIMS thread for women to discuss their experiences of being raped and sexually abused. He and a few other posters hijacked the thread when _women who had been raped_ admitted the resulting anxiety and fearfulness around strange men/circumstances similar to the rape. He attacked the rape victims for being sexist, because they had PTSD. The level of vitriol he had was just insane. It was probably one of the single most disturbing things I’ve witnessed here. And even more disturbingly, he frequently references that thread as ‘‘evidence’’ that women view all men as potential rapists. That is seriously what he got out of that thread. ah! did you hear a thud? it’s me, no longer on the fence.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/115 "2012-08-18T21:15:15Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Frankly I think his participation in his pittings would be largely pointless. And he doesn’t frequent the pit. Of his last 25 posts, 21 have been in Great Debates: none were in the pit. > > 26-50: None in the pit > 51-75: None in the pit > 76-100: None in the pit > 101-125: 1 post in the pit! Here it is! [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15367354&postcount=30](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15367354&postcount=30) > That’s from a pittting of Joan Rivers, who to my knowledge is not an active member of this board. > 126-150: We have another! He makes a joke: > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15360180&postcount=5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15360180&postcount=5) > > That brings us back to 8/6. So over about 11 days we have 2 posts to the BBQ Pit, neither one of which were directed against an active member: both were jokes. FTR, I recall a time a couple of years ago when he said it was his policy not to respond to his own pittings (with exceptions) but at the same time he avoided pitting others. Fair is fair or so he said, IIRC. > Glancing over his other contributions: yes, most involved pronounced hyper-ventilation. Thanks for looking that up. I just remembered that he had stated be never “does” the pit and then being surprised when I saw him in threads. This was over several years. I have no idea how often. I still think he is a coward. He hides behind his keyboard saying things he would never say to someones face. And he is a doper coward because he won’t go into his pit threads and knows that going after him in other threads would be threadshitting. He pokes people with pointy sticks then runs away. > [@MandaJo](#): > > It used to be almost a cliche to say “I am not a bigot; I hate everyone”, and it’s always annoyed me. I have a soft spot in my heart for true misanthropes: I kind of admire the independent spirit and self-containment implied by a person that really just doesn’t like anyone, that dislikes people for their persistent people-ness. Der Trihs is the antithesis of that. > > I do feel sorry for him, though. I think he truly believes in the world he is always talking about, one where Capitalistic Fat Cats sit around smoking cigars and boasting about how much money they made feeding chalk dust to minority babies, where Bush actually sat down with Cheney and said 'What the best way to kill Arabs and Iraqis? Some sort of invasion? Start a civil war?", where every cop he sees he knows is a man who lives only to beat and abuse people, every military uniform represents someone who would drown babies with a smile if they were ordered to, every woman he encounters is plotting to get whatever she can from him and would see ruining his life as a bonus. It must be a hellish place to live. Agreed. He is basically a caricature of a basement Internet dweller. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/116 "2012-08-18T21:31:38Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > But not because of his religious beliefs but due to Bush’s views on American strategy which somebody Christopher Hitchens (incidentally a far more likable and less self-righteous anti-theist activist than **Der Trihs** ) supported Stop arguing against arguments I didn’t make and admit that Der Trihs is not as bad as GWB. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 That goes for you, too. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/117 "2012-08-18T21:42:33Z")
**Der Trihs** doesn’t really bother me. As I said earlier, he doesn’t derail threads like some of our other famous problem posters. There’s no “Der Trihs show” like there were Dio shows and Liberal shows. His over the top opinions seem more crazy and sad than rageworthy. **Manda Jo** nailed it perfectly. And he can be witty sometimes, especially when he’s not dealing with one of his trigger areas. What does continue to baffle me are the large numbers of posters–including many in this thread–who praise him as being intellectually stimulating and a strong debater. It just leaves me speechless. I’m an atheist, I think George Bush was a terrible president, and I strongly opposed the Iraq war, so I’m not against him on any ideological fronts (Other than the misogyny.) But he’s so ridiculously over the top, it ruins whatever point others are trying to make. Bush didn’t have a bloodlust to kill Arabs, Christians do not get off on torturing women and are not out to kill him. I just can’t see how anyone, no matter how left they may be, can read his posts and think “These are the writings of a sage individual, bringing reason and evidence to bear on important topics.” Where I used to work there was this guy I’ll call Eddie who’d hang out by the corner handing out scribbled tracts about how the Twelve Tribes of Israel were controlling his mind by using psychic torture. I suppose I could have been offended by Eddie, but he was such a sad stunted man I could only feel pity and a sort of morbid fascination. However, not once did anyone ever say “That Eddie’s got some smart ideas. Really makes you think.” That would have been, well, surreal. I would have never expected it to happen. And yet here we are. ETA: and seriously, comparing him to GWB? that’s kind of silly. It’s very easy to not kill hundreds of thousands of people when you have no political power and rarely leave the house. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/118 "2012-08-18T22:21:59Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > That goes for you, too. If you weren’t such a numbskull, you’d realize that I’m talking about his mindset and how he frames his arguments. Gee, he didn’t start any wars or anything. No shock, Sherlock. Now, if you want to hitch your wagon to **DT** and defend him as quite a few people like to do, knock yourself. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/119 "2012-08-18T23:13:13Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > A couple of years back, someone started an MPSIMS thread for women to discuss their experiences of being raped and sexually abused. He and a few other posters hijacked the thread when _women who had been raped_ admitted the resulting anxiety and fearfulness around strange men/circumstances similar to the rape. He attacked the rape victims for being sexist, because they had PTSD. The level of vitriol he had was just insane. It was probably one of the single most disturbing things I’ve witnessed here. And even more disturbingly, he frequently references that thread as ‘‘evidence’’ that women view all men as potential rapists. That is seriously what he got out of that thread. Kid has some wires crossed between “gun-shy” and “contempt”. It’s like he’s trying to throw the tragedy back on the victim somehow. That’s fucked up no matter which way you rape it—I mean slice it. See, now slice sounds just as disturbing. I blame the victims. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748/120 "2012-08-18T23:27:54Z")
As much as I dislike Der Trihs, I can’t get behind this pitting. He’s said way, way more inflammatory things than this, which is barely even notable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-is-a-misogynistic-jackass-who-gives-both-progressives-and-men-a-bad-name/631748.md?page=7)