# Der Trihs Pitting du jour **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 7, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714 "2011-01-07T04:39:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/181 "2013-11-14T15:43:53Z")
Keep this up, and you’re _all_ getting Pitted!! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/182 "2013-11-14T16:04:27Z")
If we are ALL Pitted, are any of us _really_ Pitted? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/183 "2013-11-14T16:12:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > There goes the neighborhood. > > On the up side, it can’t be too long before he reduces his dead horse to a pulp and gets banned. > > Regards, > Shodan Perhaps we should start calling him [**Der Trihs, Jr.**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16847205&postcount=871) And note that he’s trolling thru all the old threads he missed so it’s like he was never gone. Can we look for “banned before Thanksgiving”? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/184 "2013-11-14T16:13:31Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > With my small knowledge of German – “Der” is the definite article, masculine form; and “Trihs” might imaginably be some German word – feeble excuse, though: I deserve pitting. [It’s German for “The Bart, the.”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMkzdn2TDuI) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/185 "2013-11-14T16:21:21Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Perhaps we should start calling him [**Der Trihs, Jr.**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16847205&postcount=871) It doesn’t _quite_ fit - **NotFooledbyW** is monomaniacally insane, but not as resentful as our resident backwards anarchist. I can visualize a universe where **NotFooled** has gotten laid at least once in his life. **Der Trihs** - not so much. > [@](#): > > Can we look for “banned before Thanksgiving”? If not, I know what I want for Christmas. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/186 "2013-11-14T16:24:49Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > After a number of months’ almost daily logging onto SDMB, I have just realised that the guy’s posting-name “Der Trihs” is “Red Shirt”, with the two words spelt backwards. Durrr ! How slow can you get…? Named after [this guy here](http://ovalkwiki.com/Lieutenant+Commander+John+Der+Trihs) from [Schlock Mercenary](http://www.schlockmercenary.com/). I recall twitting **DT** many years ago about how one of his favorite webcomics was written by an active and observant Mormon. IIRC, he was not best pleased. -a- ---
**Author:** ![vontsira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/51bf81/32.png) [@vontsira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vontsira)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/187 "2013-11-14T17:32:17Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > [It’s German for “The Bart, the.”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMkzdn2TDuI) > [@andros](#): > > Named after [this guy here](http://ovalkwiki.com/Lieutenant+Commander+John+Der+Trihs) from [Schlock Mercenary](http://www.schlockmercenary.com/). > > I recall twitting **DT** many years ago about how one of his favorite webcomics was written by an active and observant Mormon. IIRC, he was not best pleased. Oh my word – SDMB is, for sure, instructive – including telling of (with all due respect) totally off-the-wall weirdness which for myself, I’d never seek to know anything about (the Mormon thing is nicely ironic, though)… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/188 "2013-11-14T17:40:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > It doesn’t _quite_ fit - **NotFooledbyW** is monomaniacally insane, but not as resentful as our resident backwards anarchist. I can visualize a universe where **NotFooled** has gotten laid at least once in his life. **Der Trihs** - not so much. > If not, I know what I want for Christmas. > > Regards, > Shodan Plus NFBW at least offers citations and things. DT just shows up, takes a dump in the well, and wanders off. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/189 "2013-11-14T18:27:30Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Named after [this guy here](http://ovalkwiki.com/Lieutenant+Commander+John+Der+Trihs) from [Schlock Mercenary](http://www.schlockmercenary.com/). > > I recall twitting **DT** many years ago about how one of his favorite webcomics was written by an active and observant Mormon. IIRC, he was not best pleased. > > -a- Which comic was that? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/190 "2013-11-14T19:12:47Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Which comic was that? That one right there. Howard Tayler, writer of Schlock Mercenary. Four Hugo nominations for the strip, three nominations and one win for his podcast with the Sanderson boys, Dan Wells, and Mary Kowall. Super smart, super funny, awesome guy. Don’t recall offhand where he served his mission, but his Utah credentials are pretty impeccable. BYU grad, worked for Novell, lives in Orem, active in his ward. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/191 "2013-11-14T21:40:24Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > After a number of months’ almost daily logging onto SDMB, I have just realised that the guy’s posting-name “Der Trihs” is “Red Shirt”, with the two words spelt backwards. Durrr ! How slow can you get…? Heh! I’ve been here for over a decade, and I never did get it. I had to ask, and someone explained it to me. Personally, I like **Der Trihs**. Yes, he always exaggerates his points. Where a reasonable person might say, “Religion has some negative aspects as well as some positive ones,” he’ll burst at the seams and turn green and declare something like Religion is the single most harmful thing in the entire history of human civilization. His volume knob is permanently stuck at 12. But he posts with honor. He doesn’t do straw-man games; he doesn’t participate in **Bricker** -ish (rhymes with licorice) dictionary games; he doesn’t manipulate cites. He never attacks the person: he doesn’t call names or sneer or engage in clever “gotcha” wordplay. He never distorts what someone says to make it seem to mean something it didn’t actually mean. He simply says what he believes, straight-forwardly and with honesty and integrity. So, yeah, he ought to go to a mechanic and get a muffler installed…but I’ll take him over, oh, **Starving Artist** any day, thrice over, and with change. Exchanging posts with him is a comfortable experience; exchanging posts with certain others here is poisonously unpleasant. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/192 "2013-11-14T22:04:17Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > He never attacks the person: he doesn’t call names or sneer or engage in clever “gotcha” wordplay. This is so mindbogglingly false that I wonder if you’re thinking of the same poster as is being discussed. Der Trihs’s entire repertoire consists of conversation that goes like this: Normal, non-psychotic person: I am a Christian DerT: ALL Christians are diseased womyn hating scumbags. or Normal non-psychotic person: I am a Republican who thinks that there were better ways to fix the admittedly broken health-care system than Obamacare or Single Payer DerT: Republicans are all uncaring murderous brutes who club baby seals to death with axe-handles made from endangered species of trees while smoking cigars made by slave labor and using $100 bills to light them. \* Except by the arcane, convoluted rules of GD that have accreted over time, this is a clear, direct, _personal_ insult and name-calling in every other place for discussion in the world. > [@](#): > > He simply says what he believes, straight-forwardly and with honesty and integrity. So does a Klansman…when you’re spewing hate, honestly believing it is nothing to be proud about. \*Note, for the few retards (not the bulk of the SDMB, but there’s like three braindamaged hyper-didactic morons who always appear), this is _hyperbole_. Thus, no cites. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/193 "2013-11-14T22:18:43Z")
[QUOTE=Trinopus] So, yeah, he ought to go to a mechanic and get a muffler installed…but I’ll take him over, oh, Starving Artist any day, thrice over, and with change. Exchanging posts with him is a comfortable experience; exchanging posts with certain others here is poisonously unpleasant. [/QUOTE] Doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that you are basically in agreement with Der Trihs and so his insults just aren’t worth your notice, right? 😛 I think your post, in a nut shell (so to speak) sums up exactly why DT has gotten the free ride he’s gotten on this board for so long. Had he done similar things from a different perspective I have zero doubt he’d have been banned years ago, regardless of his contributions in other forums on this board. But most people on this board are basically on the same political or philosophic side as he is on most subjects, so he gets a pass, especially since he’s adept at rules lawyering (i.e. he will, in a thread full of folks who are Republicans/Christians/Conservatives/Americans/Whoever else he hates this week, simply call all \ evil…he’s not attacking the poster, merely making a blanket statement after all! We is too stupid to get that this be a personal attack, ayup…nuffin to see heaya! Now boost me back up on the turnip truck). ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/194 "2013-11-14T22:57:35Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > This is so mindbogglingly false that I wonder if you’re thinking of the same poster as is being discussed. . . . > > Der Trihs’s entire repertoire consists of conversation that goes like this: > > Normal, non-psychotic person: I am a Christian > DerT: ALL Christians are diseased womyn hating scumbags. Agreed. But he doesn’t say “You are a woman-hater.” He doesn’t play the “You said X, but you didn’t really mean it” game. He spouts, but he doesn’t get directly ad hominem. He doesn’t play the games that…so many others do. > [@XT](#): > > Doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that you are basically in agreement with Der Trihs and so his insults just aren’t worth your notice, right? . . . I don’t agree with him. I’ve made that clear in many and many a post directly to him. He doesn’t shoot back at me; he doesn’t say, “Well, you’ve been blinded by the religious establishment” or any kind of crap. He disagrees with me, in exactly the same way I disagreed with him. He’s in earnest. He isn’t a “gamer.” He has his beliefs, and he states them. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/195 "2013-11-14T23:15:01Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > He’s in earnest. He isn’t a “gamer.” He has his beliefs, and he states them. So then you gladly and openly welcome racists as long as they don’t play “games”. I mean hey if they earnestly believe that all non-whites are inferior sub-humans that’s cool and they should be allowed to stay and say that over and over and over and over for years. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/196 "2013-11-14T23:18:19Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > But he posts with honor. He doesn’t do straw-man games; Are you kidding? > [@](#): > > he doesn’t participate in **Bricker** -ish (rhymes with licorice) dictionary games; He’s got his own dictionary. > [@](#): > > he doesn’t manipulate cites. He refused to GIVE cites. It’s always “something I read a long time ago”. > [@](#): > > He never attacks the person: he doesn’t call names or sneer or engage in clever “gotcha” wordplay. He never distorts what someone says to make it seem to mean something it didn’t actually mean. Again… are you kidding? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/197 "2013-11-15T00:09:11Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Agreed. But he doesn’t say “You are a woman-hater.” He doesn’t play the “You said X, but you didn’t really mean it” game. He spouts, but he doesn’t get directly ad hominem. He doesn’t play the games that…so many others do. I strongly disagree with this. There is absolutely no difference between “You are a woman-hater” and “Everyone who shares your self-identification is a woman-hater” except in the murky world of GD loopholes. Person 1: I am X DerT: All X’s are Y Socrates: Therefore you, being X, are Y. is a not-very-clever-or-oblique way of saying “you are Y”. The fact that Ad hominem via Syllogysm is allowed due to a really dumb rules loophole in GD doesn’t change the fact that it’s still an ad-hominem insult. And (IMO) ALL he does is play games. He sees exactly how close to the line he can get without stepping over it. And now he’s whining that mods are catching him when his foot slips. If he pulled that shit face-to-face with someone (assuming he left the basement where he fantasizes about secretly taping unsuspecting women he’s tricked into having sex with him), he’d get the shit kicked out of him. Picture him at a cowboy/trucker bar… Guy (to his buddy): Yew know whut? Ah’m a redneck and damn proud of it! \< spits tobacco into the spittoon \> DerT (loudly so the guy and his buddy–and half the bar–hear): Well, all rednecks are pathological homophobes trying to compensate for their forbidden gay feelings by overreacting with overblown machismo. And all rednecks have small penises. So there!! \< Scene of unimaginable violence ensues \> > [@](#): > > He’s in earnest. He isn’t a “gamer.” He has his beliefs, and he states them. So did David Duke and so did Sherriff Clarke and so did Father Coughlin. I don’t find this to be a selling point for him in GD. Look–if he kept his shit in the Pit, fine–no prob. He’d be a bigoted, stupid, useless, creepily sexist douche, but he’d be doing it in the right forum. But he does this in GD. And I’m glad the mods are _finally_ saying “Enough” ---
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/198 "2013-11-15T00:54:11Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that you are basically in agreement with Der Trihs and so his insults just aren’t worth your notice, right? 😛 I think your post, in a nut shell (so to speak) sums up exactly why DT has gotten the free ride he’s gotten on this board for so long. Had he done similar things from a different perspective I have zero doubt he’d have been banned years ago, regardless of his contributions in other forums on this board. But most people on this board are basically on the same political or philosophic side as he is on most subjects, so he gets a pass, especially since he’s adept at rules lawyering You have previously defending calling some people on the opposite side of the political isle from you mentally ill in great debates, for things that they are scientifically proven 100% correct on, with absolutely no controversy. And yet, clearly, it’s DT who gets a pass, and not your ilk? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/199 "2013-11-15T00:56:20Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > You have previously defending calling some people on the opposite side of the political isle from you mentally ill in great debates, for things that they are scientifically proven 100% correct on, with absolutely no controversy. > > And yet, clearly, it’s DT who gets a pass, and not your ilk? Got link? ---
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/200 "2013-11-15T00:57:56Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Got link? In a previous ATMB thread on the subject, XT had said that there was nothing wrong with claiming transgender people were mentally ill and delusional in GD, yet claiming libertarians were sociopaths was _very obviously_ different, and clearly the first is an OK thing to do and the second totally wrong. Personally, I think both are wrong in GD/Elections, but then, I’m not an asshole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714.md?page=11)