# Der Trihs Pitting du jour

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 7, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714 "2011-01-07T04:39:35Z")\
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> [@magellan01](#):
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> No. The point is not how bad the label is, but what the threshold is that one might pass in order to be accurately characterized as such.

I disagree.

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> Someone discussing whether all races have the same cognitive abilities may or not be a racist.

There’s no “maybe” about it. Anyone who _ever_ says anything remotely scientific-sounding, that uses the commonly used races, is a racist. As soon as someone says “Blacks [something scientific]”, he’s a racist.

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> Not only that, given the seriousness of the accusation of “racist”, don’t you think the bar for using it should be pretty fucking high? Or do you think using it more cavalierly is just fine?

I use it where it fits.

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> But shouldn’t we determine first that it actual hate speech?

That determination has already been done, by history. I \*don’t \*need to revisit every claim racists make like _tabula rasa_ every time. That’d be like going “Maybe we should stufy this particular instance of Holocaust denial, maybe he has new facts…” No! The Holocaust is axiomatic. The non-existence of biological races is axiomatic.

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