# Der Trihs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150 "2009-11-03T08:22:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/281 "2009-11-06T11:51:44Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > Telling your audience the truth isn’t abusing them. Oh fer cryin’ out loud. Do you have any effin’ familiarity with \*\*Der Trihs’ \*\*posting history at all? Any? I’ll give you an eensy weensy hint: I have been relying on the fundamental premise that \*\*Der Trihs \*\*calls religious people names for pages now in this very thread. Note carefully how many of his supporters have contradicted me. I’ll help you out: it’s a number less than one. Take a guess why. Give it up. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/282 "2009-11-06T12:05:45Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I have been relying on the fundamental premise that \*\*Der Trihs \*\*calls religious people names for pages now in this very thread. So, what has he said that is incorrect? You don’t like what he’s said, but that doesn’t make him wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/283 "2009-11-06T12:36:53Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > So, what has he said that is incorrect? You don’t like what he’s said, but that doesn’t make him wrong. Sorry, do you speak english? Do you want to read my last post and try again? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/284 "2009-11-06T12:48:23Z")
So tell me, how has the meek and mild, soft and reasonable approach worked out so far for atheists over the last three thousand years? ---
**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/285 "2009-11-06T12:52:28Z")
> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#): > > Like Lord, Sir or Baron. I may not accept the way they got the title, but as it’s mainly political I use it. OK, I guess I just think of “Prophet” in much the same way. > [@](#): > > For the record this is getting off track and seems to be a fairly trivial point to argue over. My post was to support **Dir Trihs** and to refute religion, not get bogged down in minutae. Fair enough – I too was/am supporting **Dir Trihs** and, if not actively refuting religion, then at least edging in my empirical agnosticism towards finding the whole proposition ever less likely. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/286 "2009-11-06T12:57:16Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Sorry, do you speak english? Do you want to read my last post and try again? For a guy who claims it is better to use honey instead of vinegar you have accused me of spouting nonsense, of being an idiot, and unable to read English. So, should I do as you say, or do as you do? Oddly enough, I’m still listening. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/287 "2009-11-06T13:30:43Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > How was his influence compared to the far right wing preachers that can get on the air any time they want? What laws did he push or prevent successfully? Do you think that he would be given a regular national forum to talk about secular humanism if he were alive today? Do you think Der Trihs has a chance of getting a national forum? ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/288 "2009-11-06T13:35:59Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Do you think Der Trihs has a chance of getting a national forum? He has an international forum right here. Someone should create a poll to see how many people he has managed to convince here. Or, better yet, how many people have given up believing in god because they’ve been reading the SD. ---
**Author:** ![jinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@jinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jinty)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/289 "2009-11-06T13:42:16Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > Religion does not claim to answer questions like say “How does physics work?” No, not since Galileo’s time anyway. Nowadays it mostly claims to answer questions like “How does biology work?” ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/290 "2009-11-06T13:45:07Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So tell me, how has the meek and mild, soft and reasonable approach worked out so far for atheists over the last three thousand years? Well, it’s allowing the truly god-fearing peoples to inherit the Earth and all… ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/291 "2009-11-06T13:54:28Z")
> [@ManiacMan](#): > > Hate causes depression…anger turned inward also causes depression. You are trapped in a never ending cycle. The more you hate religion the more you will become depressed. Surely, there are some aspects of organized religion (no matter how small) that are positive. Perhaps, you should focus on such and just let go of all that hate. You will feel better I think… Yes, don’t worry, be happy. Like [the nice religious man in Texas](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting). _“Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire, the base commander said Friday”_. **Der Trihs** ’ “hate” ticks off some people on a message board. Somehow it seems less destructive than what the devout can unleash.\* \*Of course, no _true_ religious person would condone religion-inspired atrocities. We now return you to our regularly scheduled soup kitchens and friendly proselytizing activities. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/292 "2009-11-06T14:52:37Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > He has an international forum right here. Someone should create a poll to see how many people he has managed to convince here. Or, better yet, how many people have given up believing in god because they’ve been reading the SD. Along with a poll to see how many atheists have started believing in deities because they’ve been reading the SD? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/293 "2009-11-06T14:55:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So tell me, how has the meek and mild, soft and reasonable approach worked out so far for atheists over the last three thousand years? [Not](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_Anti-Religious_Campaign_(1928-1941)) [particularly](http://www.cambodianchristian.com/article/?p=125) [well](http://countrystudies.us/albania/56.htm), but thanks for asking. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/294 "2009-11-06T14:56:25Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Well, it’s allowing the truly god-fearing peoples to inherit the Earth and all… While the Meek and Mild Christians have the baseless hope of inheriting an incredible afterlife if they take it on the chin in _this_ life, all we atheists get if we don’t fight back is the earth itself. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/295 "2009-11-06T14:56:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Along with a poll to see how many atheists have started believing in deities because they’ve been reading the SD? Why not? It’d be interesting if we’re all tilting at windmills here. ---
**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/296 "2009-11-06T15:22:02Z")
> [@adhay](#): > > … My views on religion are posted above. But returning to the OP > [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > **Der Tris** , I’m not a religious man. I haven’t been to church in years. > > But one thing I do know is that hate isn’t good. You don’t seem to do anything but hate when it comes to religion. That ain’t healthy. The overly religious hate, can’t you at least try to be a better person than they are? It’s not that hard. > > Please, just show some tolerance of how other human beings view the world. Drop the hate. You’ll live longer. I must agree. Yes, religion can never be more than organized superstition but you could ease up:) The choice of god or not is an individual one. I find it easier (more comforting) to postulate that nothing is as great as Infinity and that Infinity includes me rather than to postulate a little “me” opposed to the “rest of the universe”. Totally with you on the class war. Givem hell. ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/297 "2009-11-06T15:24:59Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Along with a poll to see how many atheists have started believing in deities because they’ve been reading the SD? Now that would be interresting. I can understand believers loosing their faith as they discover, bit by bit, that what they have been taught is not correct. But, barring a fall on the road to Damascus, what could prompt someone to start believing, where before they were level-headed. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/298 "2009-11-06T15:41:31Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > Now that would be interresting. > I can understand believers loosing their faith as they discover, bit by bit, that what they have been taught is not correct. > > But, barring a fall on the road to Damascus, what could prompt someone to start believing, where before they were level-headed. During my college years, I self-identified as agnostic. Then I had an experience which caused me to believe, to KNOW, that God was there. And it wasn’t dramatic. It can’t even be explained. Nothing outwardly happened. I don’t offer this recollection to evangelize, to suggest that anyone else should believe based on an experience only I had. But at the same time, it was sufficiently convincing for me that I can’t NOT believe. Perhaps in that sense, it WAS a road-to-Damascus thing. ---
**Author:** ![Fantome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Fantome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fantome)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/299 "2009-11-06T15:58:59Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If you met her though, you wouldn’t refer to her as “Queen” the proper address would be “Your Majesty.” > > \*I hate to pull the “you don’t know any better”, but in this case, I think it really DOES apply. Was that last sentence meant for me? If so, you’re wrong. I wasn’t talking about addressing her, as no one was talking about how one would have addressed Muhammad. When talking about Queen Silvia, it’s appropriate to refer to her as “Queen Silvia.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150/300 "2009-11-06T16:22:21Z")
> [@ManiacMan](#): > > Hate causes depression…anger turned inward also causes depression. You are trapped in a never ending cycle. The more you hate religion the more you will become depressed. Powerful he has become… the dark side I sense in him! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs/516150.md?page=16)