# DerekMichaels00: If you would magically cease to exist, the world would be a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 17, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998 "2016-05-17T14:37:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/41 "2016-07-25T16:39:31Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > According to his comments, he believes that Obama is "divisive"because he’s black and addresses black issues. Whereas DerekRACIST00 has clearly stated that America is a majority white nation and should be represented by a white president. Has he actually said this? I don’t doubt it as I find most of his posts offensive, but I didn’t think he’d actually gone that far. I’ve stopped interacting with him completely after witnessing his assertions being corrected over and over and over. I can’t stomach the willfully ignorant. I also find his worship of Israel to be disturbing, and this is coming from someone who has spent time in Jerusalem and Haifa and loves it there. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/42 "2016-07-25T17:14:55Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > According to his comments, he believes that Obama is "divisive"because he’s black and addresses black issues. Whereas DerekRACIST00 has clearly stated that America is a majority white nation and should be represented by a white president. We’re also a majority-female nation, right? ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/43 "2016-07-25T17:17:01Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > According to his comments, he believes that Obama is "divisive"because he’s black and addresses black issues. Whereas DerekRACIST00 has clearly stated that America is a majority white nation and should be represented by a white president. I never stated that we need to represented by a white person. Ever. Typical liberal words in mouth. I merely said that a president, if he’s gonna talk race, needs to talk it with the majority perspective in mind, which I think Obama coulda done better. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/44 "2016-07-25T17:23:29Z")
> [@Stupid liberal idea of the day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5097): > > I understand the temptation for a guy like Obama to speak from the black man’s perspective; \*\*but as President of the US, he is supposed to represent the whole country, white, black, and the others. This country is still majority white. \*\*Also, he has a duty to wait for the facts to be in, not saying “if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” Nor should he have commented on Henry Louis Gates until facts were known. Nor should his AG called America a “nation of cowards.” So what exactly were you saying here. He can’t speak from the perspective of a black man because this is a majority white country? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/45 "2016-07-25T17:30:31Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > So what exactly were you saying here. He can’t speak from the perspective of a black man because this is a majority white country? Duh. He has to speak only from the perspective of the majority except when the majority are women, non-Jews, or people of height. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/46 "2016-07-25T17:32:42Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > No, **Qin** , no, please you’re getting carried away by the rage and saying nonsense like you want Trump elected, get some fresh air – and anyway you’d want to exile little \*\*Derek \*\*to _Iran_, a Shiite Theocracy _ **that recognizes Transgender** _. Recognizes but only under certain strict guidelines for gender identity and presentation, as well as it being used as a “hammer” to force LGB persons into medical transition who are not truly transgender. It’s like what clerics in Pakistan recently did in their fatwa allowing transgender marriage - only to those of the opposite sex. There is also a huge disconnect between what the religious law in Iran says and what happens in real life. Transgender individuals have no protections under the secular law, and are widely ostracized, harassed, attacked, etc. by the general public. I’ve spoken to several Iranian transgender persons who say it’s really a terrible situation that only sounds good in Western media soundbites. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/47 "2016-07-25T17:36:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by DerekMichaels00 > I understand the temptation for a guy like Obama to speak from the black man’s perspective; but as President of the US, he is supposed to represent the whole country, white, black, and the others. This country is still majority white. Also, he has a duty to wait for the facts to be in, not saying “if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” Nor should he have commented on Henry Louis Gates until facts were known. Nor should his AG called America a “nation of cowards.” On the other hand, many of us white people in the U.S., are damn glad to have a president who is willing to say these things. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/48 "2016-07-25T17:58:38Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I never stated that we need to represented by a white person. Ever. And you have an explanation for the quote above in #44, do you? Nice find **Chimera**! > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Typical liberal words in mouth. But, as you never tire of telling us, you _ **are** _ a liberal! What’s the problem? > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I merely said that a president, if he’s gonna talk race, needs to talk it with the majority perspective in mind, which I think Obama coulda done better. He’s suddenly “Obama” now? Whatever happened to Barack **Hussein** Obama which is how he appears in many of your posts, like the one where Hussein was going to cause you to dump your Democratic affiliation, where Hussein represented [“the uber left-wing of the Democratic Party”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19332061&postcount=163), or where Hussein was responsible for all the [“polarization and creeping socialist extreme-left out there”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19245316&postcount=74). You are a thoroughly reprehensible hypocrite, liar, and bigot. And a far-right lunatic apparently devoted to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. > [@jsgoddess](#): > > Duh. He has to speak only from the perspective of the majority except when the majority are women, non-Jews, or people of height. The worst thing is that Barack Hussein Obama is himself a black Muslim person of height. And un-American, too. It doesn’t get any worse than that. At least, not for **DerekMichaels00** and height-challenged Grand Wizards of the KKK. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/49 "2016-07-25T18:10:42Z")
I asked him if this meant that we should have a white president and he didn’t answer. if so, Hillary Clinton, as a white female fits the bill, as females are also the majority (51%). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/50 "2016-07-25T18:35:04Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > According to his comments, he believes that Obama is "divisive"because he’s black and addresses black issues. Whereas DerekRACIST00 has clearly stated that America is a majority white nation and should be represented by a white president. I believe that was some other poster in his original trans thread – [Arcite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19316624&postcount=414). ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/51 "2016-07-25T18:38:02Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I believe that was some other poster in his original trans thread – [Arcite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19316624&postcount=414). > [@Stupid liberal idea of the day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/5093): > > Obama won by less than 7.8 in 2008; Bill won by 8.5 in 1996, Reagan by 18% in 1984, etc. 2008 was decisive, but not a landslide. And Clinton, Reagan, Nixon all won by more their second time than their first time. As did Ike, FDR too. > > In the first place, in 2008, Hillary had a shot of winning the blue wall states (something that Bill Clinton built, and all Obama did was piggyback off) plus states Bill won that Obama got smoked in, like WV, LA, KY, TN AR, as well as standard swing states like NV, FL, OH, formerly MO as well. Now, WV, LA, AR, TN, and KY are out of reach for the Dems both because of Trump **but also because of Obama’s divisiveness when talking about race** , tho yea maybe Obama suffered in those states because of racism itself. Yea Hillary '08 might not have won that electoral vote in NE, but who cares. No, he’s on about that too. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/52 "2016-07-25T18:47:09Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > Recognizes but only under certain strict guidelines for gender identity and presentation, as well as it being used as a “hammer” to force LGB persons into medical transition who are not truly transgender. It’s like what clerics in Pakistan recently did in their fatwa allowing transgender marriage - only to those of the opposite sex. Wait, so if they find out someone’s gay, they’re like, forced to have a sex change? That’s horrible! ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/53 "2016-07-25T19:10:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > According to his comments, he believes that Obama is "divisive"because he’s black and addresses black issues. Whereas DerekRACIST00 has clearly stated that America is a majority white nation and should be represented by a white president. > [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I understand the temptation for a guy like Obama to speak from the black man’s perspective; but as President of the US, he is supposed to represent the whole country, white, black, and the others. This country is still majority white. Also, he has a duty to wait for the facts to be in, not saying “if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” Nor should he have commented on Henry Louis Gates until facts were known. Nor should his AG called America a “nation of cowards.” Although you can infer that he meant America should be represented by a white president, he didn’t actually state it. I think the guy is reprehensible, foolish, and immature, but he’s done enough to bury himself with his actual words, there’s really no need to embellish them. I don’t think he will be around too much longer in any case. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998/54 "2016-07-26T03:46:50Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Wait, so if they find out someone’s gay, they’re like, forced to have a sex change? That’s horrible! Not forced as in strapped to a gurney, but forced as in pressured with the choice of “either you give up your unnatural love for this other person of the same sex, or you change sex and marry them. Or, we can put you in prison for a little while and let you think about it, or have some religious zealots come by your house for a little bit of the old ultra-violence…” One Iranian transgender woman I spoke with was not only threatened with having her head cut off by the local droogs of her sect, but they said they would kill her (cisgender) sister and brothers because she was “disgracing” her family. So her choices were transition or die (I’m seeing Puff Daddy singing “Transition or die, motherfucker!” as they did on South Park in the “Vote or Die” episode.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/derekmichaels00-if-you-would-magically-cease-to-exist-the-world-would-be-a-better-place/754998.md?page=2)