# DeSantis can't win the GOP nomination or the general election in 2024 {How Trump plays into this is allowed} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 23, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249 "2023-02-23T18:07:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/21 "2023-02-23T20:27:56Z")
Personally, I think the Republicans will win the next presidency regardless of who they run _except_ Trump (unless something unusual happens between now and then, like say a war with Russia). Trump still would have a good chance of winning, but he is the worst possible pick to run against Biden because of all the baggage he brings. But the Republicans got a good sense of how much they can press down on the scales, and not get a reaction. They’re going to go even more all in on keeping the wrong people from voting in the next election. The other factor that tells me we’re in for a Republican president is MTG. Here is somebody who should have almost no political power at all. The GOP reaction to her should be “Yeah, the people voted her in, but she can sit in the corner and vote with us” but that has not been the reaction lately. She’s getting a lot of coverage, and some great assignments. This tells you where the GOP are headed, and they are headed deeper into crazy town. I think they believe this is a winning solution. They want the nothing but angry vote, and by God, they’ll get Americans angry enough to vote for them. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/22 "2023-02-23T20:39:21Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > This tells you where the GOP are headed, and they are headed deeper into crazy town. I think they believe this is a winning solution. They want the nothing but angry vote, and by God, they’ll get Americans angry enough to vote for them. Could they get that on the strength of a running mate, with the guy at the top of the ticket more blandly presenting himself as a not-Biden choice? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/23 "2023-02-23T20:41:47Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I agree that he has been successful, but he’s not popular. He’s exactly where Trump was at this point – on [this page](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/), if you scroll down, it shows Biden vs. other presidents at the same point in each’s presidencies. Yet it’s not the same in effect, since there was the Blue Wave in 2018 (when Trump was at Biden’s current level of popularity) and the Blue Hold in 2022. There are of course other factors at work, such as the abortion fiasco, the extreme unpopularity of the Supreme Court, the continued presence of Trump in the political scene, etc., but Biden’s middling approval score does not seem to be hurting Democrats overall. > [@](#): > > If you had said Trump would win because he’s fairly popular, especially on this board four years ago, you would be shouted down. I don’t know how to explain Biden’s unpopularity, but it’s pretty indisputable. I think there is a qualitative aspect that approve/disapprove numbers don’t capture. While Biden may be disliked by GOP voters, Trump was absolutely despised by Democratic voters. Similarly, in 2016, Hillary was despised by a large percentage of GOP voters. This kind of disparity can drive voter turnout. (All of this is my speculation, but it seems reasonable to me.) > [@](#): > > Here’s my guess at an explanation: Fox and other right wing news sources will constantly dump on Democrats, so 40% of the population will always have a negative view of a Dem president. However, normal news sources will publish good and bad pieces on any president, so half of the rest of the population will end up with unfavorable views in the name of “balance.” Yes, the Fox propaganda machine is a real advantage to the fascist right. That said, my mom has Fox News on 24/7 (☹), and although they are constantly drumming on about Hunter Biden and whatnot, I detect a _slight_ bit of deference toward Biden that they did not extend toward Hillary or even Obama. It’s just a feeling, and I can’t prove it, and I could be wrong. > [@](#): > > ETA: The previous poster mentions the economy. It’s a great example of what I mention in my last paragraph – the economy is actually doing quite well (as opposed to “not technically in a recession”) – unemployment is at record lows, inflation appears to be moderating, wages are keeping up with prices. However, mainstream news sources make it seem like it’s not doing well, with headlines like “inflation is down, but it’s not all good news”, and Fox News viewers think the economy is in the dumps. It’s one thing to be able to say, “The economy nominally sucks, and we can beat up the Dems with it!” and another thing to really _feel_, personally, that the economy is bad. I think one thing that has changed in US politics over the past 50 years is that we (at least a much larger percentage of us) have this kind of meta horse race monitoring in our minds that people didn’t use to have. For example, DeSantis has a pretty, presentable wife that I think will work in DeSantis’s favor, though that factor has no influence on me. (Whereas, a voter in the 1970s or 1980s would probably just think about what things mean to them and not go “meta” and think about what they mean in the election.) Thus, I think it’s possible that we can overestimate the “meta” aspect and underestimate the “what it means to me” aspect of any given thing. In the case of the economy, with unemployment being quite low, it’s possible that the nominal “bad economy” about which Fox News complains will be overcome by people just not feeling all that much pain in the aggregate. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/24 "2023-02-23T20:43:20Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Just like in 2016, many people did not vote for Trump but rather Not-Clinton and in 2020 many people did not vote for Biden but rather Not-Trump, DeSantis (or any other Pub nominee) is counting on people voting for Not-Biden. True. I just don’t think that there are that many people on the right who truly hate Biden. Not enough to drive stronger voter turnout. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/25 "2023-02-23T20:44:30Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I think the most likely thing to sink DeSantis if he gets the nomination is Trump. Trump will attack him hard during the primaries. Trumps base, whatever is left of it (large or small) will never vote for Desantis. That will doom him. Yes, I think this is the biggest single thing. Trump will weaken DeSantis a lot, even if DeSantis can beat him. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/26 "2023-02-23T20:48:58Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > His popular vote margin was strong, however. The national popular vote margin is, of course, meaningless, other than bragging rights. > [@Aeschines](#): > > The Electoral College challenge will always be there, but I don’t see much potential for that factor to get worse for the Democrats. What could get worse for Democrats is that some of those swing states, which have GOP-controlled state houses (e.g., Georgia), are making changes to their election rules (fewer drop boxes, limits on absentee voting, etc.) which are likely structured to disadvantage Democratic voters. > **[Explainer: Big changes under Georgia’s new election law](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/big-changes-under-georgias-new-election-law-2021-06-14/)** > > Georgia Governor Brian Kemp this year signed into law sweeping voting restrictions sponsored by Republicans, with potentially big implications for how elections are administered in the battleground state in 2022, and the U.S. presidential contest of... ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/27 "2023-02-23T20:51:00Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I think he’s lost both sides of this equation. He doesn’t have Trump’s “it factor,” yet he’s done enough of his own debased wingnut shit to turn off “independents.” It’s not the “debased wingnut shit” that I was referring to regarding Trump; it’s all of his _other_ baggage (marital infidelity, tax evasion, serial lying, etc., etc., etc.) ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/28 "2023-02-23T20:53:20Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > The swing voters in only a few purple states are going to have all the impact in the next election, and I can see how DeSantis could appeal to them, especially those that are right-leaning, that had had enough of Trump in the last election and voted Biden or stayed home. They may see DeSantis as a more “normal” Conservative and be okay going back to voting R. The problem for DeSantis is that Trump actually drove GOP voter turnout quite well in 2020, to the point where Trump was able to brag that he had received more votes than any other candidate in history, etc. (except Biden in the same election!). I don’t think DeSantis can drive such passionate turnout. Meanwhile, Biden will have more years as president behind him and will seem safe and familiar to people. > [@](#): > > It’s early yet, but I can see DeSantis winning the nomination. He’s played his cards close to the vest so far, letting others make mistakes and use up oxygen in the room, and yet has created a lot of newsy stories with his whole anti-woke thing. He’s capturing people’s imagination by staying out of the race, for now. That can pay dividends later. Good point! I agree that that is a pretty savvy strategy. > [@](#): > > Yes, he’s an unlikable character around here and in blue states, but I have heard some of my conservative friends mentioning his name so he has appeal across the aisle - he’s not trying to appeal to D voters. Well, I think we need to distinguish between interest in politics and enthusiasm for a particular politician. I find the GOP primary race to be quite interesting myself, and I’m very curious about how it will shake out. Right now, I think there are a lot of Republicans who _hope_ that a savior can appear and a good number that _hope_ DeSantis could be it, but this number is larger than that of GOP voters who really feel they know DeSantis at this point. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/29 "2023-02-23T20:58:00Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Red state conservatives in are going to vote for whomever has an R next to their name… (Blue states are equally as predictable). The swing voters in only a few purple states are going to have all the impact in the next election, and I can see how DeSantis could appeal to them, especially those that are right-leaning, that had had enough of Trump in the last election and voted Biden or stayed home. They may see DeSantis as a more “normal” Conservative and be okay going back to voting R. This is a vital point–that the party is as important as the candidate. Each party has its image, and a lot of swing voters\* will vote for the image, not the person. Which is why I predict that the Republican party will win…no matter whether it is led by DeSantis or Trump The Democrats are experts at shooting themselves in the foot. The Progressives are not going to sit quietly. They will affect the image of the Dem party…and it will create an image of leftist extremism which will scare the swing voters back to the Repub party. In 2020, the slogan Defund the Police created an image which damaged the left. And this time, the progressives will come up with a new slogan over an issue which will do even more damage. That issue is : reparations. When they push hard for reparations,it will be easy for the Republicans to brand the entire Dem party as wanting to give a million dollars to every black person in the country. Bill Maher (full-time comedian/commentator, part-time asshole) has said that the Dems need to be reminded that, whether they like it or not, half the population is still white . And he says that it’s not a good idea to make a slogan saying [white people suck](https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/01/17/new-rule-bill-maher-should-look-in-the-mirror/). If you scare off the swing voters, you lose. – …–…— \*(who are the ONLY voters which matter, because they and only they will determine the winner) ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/30 "2023-02-23T21:01:46Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Personally, I think the Republicans will win the next presidency regardless of who they run _except_ Trump (unless something unusual happens between now and then, like say a war with Russia). If that were true, I don’t think Democrats would have done as well as they did in the 2022 midterms, no? > [@](#): > > They’re going to go even more all in on keeping the wrong people from voting in the next election. Can the GOP do much more voter suppression stuff than they already have? I have not heard too much about new efforts. > [@](#): > > The other factor that tells me we’re in for a Republican president is MTG. Here is somebody who should have almost no political power at all. The GOP reaction to her should be “Yeah, the people voted her in, but she can sit in the corner and vote with us” but that has not been the reaction lately. She’s getting a lot of coverage, and some great assignments. This tells you where the GOP are headed, and they are headed deeper into crazy town. I agree about the trip to crazy town, but this seems to have hurt them significantly in 2018 and 2022. I don’t think the coverage of MTG’s ultrastupid mouth is helping the GOP in any way. Last night, Laura Ingraham was working hard to spin MTG’s moronic comments about a “national divorce” (again, my mom has this shit on–I don’t really want to watch it!). > [@](#): > > I think they believe this is a winning solution. They want the nothing but angry vote, and by God, they’ll get Americans angry enough to vote for them. Ah, but here’s the thing: Trump maxed out that anger. No one can channel it as well as he, and he himself can’t channel it anywhere as powerfully as he once did. MAGA is not moving forward. It can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/31 "2023-02-23T21:08:54Z")
I think you’re quite wrong there. They will all snap into allegiance with the winner. The GOP is tremendous at that. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/32 "2023-02-23T21:09:33Z")
I certainly hope you’re right. My gut tells me that the GOP has learnt a lot from 2020 and 2022. Trump is (mainly) poison, and this cost a lot of seats in 2022 since there was still a lot “No Trumpists!” votes. Election denial in particular seemed to coincide with losing (not completely of course). By 2024, the 2020 election will be old news and I don’t think the Republican nominees will focus on it, and certainly the leadership will be telling them not to go there. But the anti-woke, culture war, pwn the libs is (I think) a winning strategy. It doesn’t matter how insane it is, in some ways the more insane the better. DeSantis is going as fascist as we’ve seen in American politics since the 1940s in Florida. Not only is this not drawing criticism, but the right is cheering it on and saying DeSantis is their man. This is one of those times when I would be oh so very happy to be 100% totally wrong. MTG to me is the thing that really surprises me. Her getting political power is shocking, and says a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/33 "2023-02-23T21:11:15Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The national popular vote margin is, of course, meaningless, other than bragging rights. I think it’s meaningful because Biden didn’t just squeak by in the EC or end up underwater as Trump did in 2016. He had genuine popular support, and people know this fact and are influenced by it. Further, his popular vote total is one metric by which to gauge future success. (E.g., 538 uses national polls in their aggregate; if these were meaningless, they wouldn’t.) > [@](#): > > What could get worse for Democrats is that some of those swing states, which have GOP-controlled state houses (e.g., Georgia), are making changes to their election rules (fewer drop boxes, limits on absentee voting, etc.) which are likely structured to disadvantage Democratic voters. > > [Explainer: Big changes under Georgia’s new election law | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/big-changes-under-georgias-new-election-law-2021-06-14/) Thank you. I wonder what the predicted effect of the Georgia changes is, and is there anything as big going on in other states? Also, this kind of thing pisses off Black and other minority voters, as well as white people who don’t like unfair bullshit. These changes can also be mitigated by GOTV and other efforts. I find it despicable and frustrating, but we do not need to assume passively that the changes will have their desired effects. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/34 "2023-02-23T21:11:23Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > I think you’re quite wrong there. They will all snap into allegiance with the winner. That could happen. But I’m betting Trump is too petty to support it, and his core followers too deep in MAGA. We don’t have experience seeing what Trump does when he loses the nomination but we have seen how he acts when he loses the general election. It’s not pretty. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/35 "2023-02-23T21:12:32Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > It’s not the “debased wingnut shit” that I was referring to regarding Trump; it’s all of his _other_ baggage (marital infidelity, tax evasion, serial lying, etc., etc., etc.) Ah, right. Yes, DeSantis is much, much stronger in this area. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/36 "2023-02-23T21:16:24Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > The Democrats are experts at shooting themselves in the foot. The Progressives are not going to sit quietly. They will affect the image of the Dem party…and it will create an image of leftist extremism which will scare the swing voters back to the Repub party. > In 2020, the slogan Defund the Police created an image which damaged the left. I think that Democrats could have done even _better_ without the unproductive “defund the police” rhetoric, so I agree with you on that. But we don’t have to speculate in the future tense here, since we had very good midterms in 2018, won the presidential election in 2020 (and both houses of Congress), and then blasted through negative expectations for 2022. I don’t see how you negatively extrapolate from that into 2024. Things look good. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/37 "2023-02-23T21:17:02Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > We don’t have experience seeing what Trump does when he loses the nomination but we have seen how he acts when he loses the general election. Of course, he won’t have Fox News pushing a “stolen primary” narrative like they did with “Stop the Steal” in 2020; they’ll back the GOP nominee and continue marginalizing Trump. Though maybe OAN will back Trump and peel away some of his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/38 "2023-02-23T21:18:13Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > I think you’re quite wrong there. They will all snap into allegiance with the winner. The GOP is tremendous at that. Oh I think you’re correct. Fox et al. will propagandize on behalf of whoever is the candidate. That’s a big advantage. But if that candidate doesn’t instill passion in the base and drive voter turnout, I don’t see why the GOP will win in 2024. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/39 "2023-02-23T21:52:36Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Can the GOP do much more voter suppression stuff than they already have? I have not heard too much about new efforts. Unfortunately yes. There is a very big national campaign they’re running to try to steal elections. Voter suppression is only a piece of it. If you’re not familiar, read about Project REDMAP which is another piece: > **[REDMAP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REDMAP)** > > REDMAP (short for Redistricting Majority Project) is a project of the Republican State Leadership Committee of the United States to increase Republican control of congressional seats as well as state legislatures, largely through determination of electoral district boundaries. The project has made effective use of partisan gerrymandering, by relying on previously unavailable mapping software such as Maptitude to improve the precision with which district lines are strategically drawn. The s... I also watched a documentary on Netflix which you can also watch for free on YouTube, which discusses a lot of these tactics: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Xn7MXFGl9Hs/maxresdefault.jpg "Rigged: The Voter Suppression Playbook (Full Film)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn7MXFGl9Hs) They’re not done. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/40 "2023-02-23T22:09:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > They’re not done. ☹ Fuuuck. I will check it out, thanks! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249.md?page=3)