# DeSantis can't win the GOP nomination or the general election in 2024 {How Trump plays into this is allowed}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 23, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249 "2023-02-23T18:07:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/701 "2023-05-25T12:57:59Z")

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It looks like the Wall St. Journal is all in on DeSantis’ candidacy. Among the gems in today’s fawning editorial:

“His greatest achievement was his handling of the pandemic…Mr. DeSantis did his own homework on Covid health risks”

Almost spewed my coffee on reading that. DeSantis named Joseph Ladapo as his state surgeon general, and Ladapo is the guy who cosied up to “America’s Frontline Doctors” (the group that promoted bogus Covid cures like hydroxychloroquine and featured members who among other things, got convicted in the Jan. 6th riot and pushed the idea that sex with demons causes women’s ailments). Ladapo also [cooked the evidence](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/24/florida-surgeon-general-covid-vaccine-00093510) to issue a “study” claiming untoward Covid vaccine health risks in young men.

If DeSantis somehow got elected President, Ladapo would probably get named U.S. Surgeon General.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/702 "2023-05-25T13:08:29Z")

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Who wrote the article? And what Cabinet post are they aiming for?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Or waiting for Trump to descend into more intense fits of lunacy?

How will we recognize it?

P.S. Is “red button” code for penis? Just a guess.

ETA: Hypothesis supported in this post:

> [@NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/9587):
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> Of course, it makes absolutely no sense in this new context, as Loser Donald no longer has that button, and Ron (or “Rob” as he apparently now thinks it’s amusing to call him) has never claimed to have one. Best as I can tell this is just his way of saying “My dick is YUUUUUGE”.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/704 "2023-05-25T15:57:56Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newt-gingrich-s-unintentional-burn-of-donald-trump-is-priceless/ar-AA1bFQDU](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newt-gingrich-s-unintentional-burn-of-donald-trump-is-priceless/ar-AA1bFQDU)

> “One of Trump’s great advantages is he talks at a level where third, fourth and fifth grade educations can say, ‘Oh yeah, I get that. I understand it.’” Gingrich told host Laura Ingraham on her Fox News show.
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> The comment drew mockery from online critics. “The fact that [Trump] speaks to the children says everything you need to know about the educational level the Right is shooting for,” one person on Twitter wrote.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> P.S. Is “red button” code for penis? Just a guess.

My guess is it refers, at least in part, to the “nuclear button,” to which, of course, Trump no longer actually has access. OTOH, it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s a penis reference, too…though I’m not sure how many guys would want to refer to their own manhood as a “button.” 😃

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
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It could be that he has opposition research on DeSantis that he can release at an opportune time, with the effect on DeSantis’ campaign similar to the effect of a nuclear bomb on a city. If he falls behind, he presses the button and blows up DeSantis.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/707 "2023-05-25T16:13:44Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> If he falls behind, he presses the button and blows up DeSantis.

It would be nice if the button works like the one in Richard Matheson’s [_Button, Button_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button,_Button_(The_Twilight_Zone)).

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/708 "2023-05-25T16:42:34Z")

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TIL that DeSantis’ launch was at the Four Seasons hotel in Miami. You’d think he’d avoid that specific name after the Landscaping snafu. [A BBC article about the event here](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65676137).

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/709 "2023-05-25T18:04:43Z")

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I think rather the opposite. It was totally a tweak of Trump’s nose.

> See, stupid, _this_ is a Four Seasons press conference. Not the moronic crap your people did on your behalf. Sucker!

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/710 "2023-05-25T20:55:51Z")

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I hate hate hate giving him credit, but Donald Trump Jr. wrote a single word about the announcement: “#DeSaster” and that’s not terrible.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/711 "2023-05-26T01:29:42Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> It could be that he has opposition research on DeSantis that he can release at an opportune time,

I’m trying to imagine what this could be.

Lost a civil suit alleging rape?

Cheated on his wife before the baby could crawl?

Brought home top secret documents when he left Congress?

Maybe you’ll say he could have dressed in drag. I suppose if elementary school kids were in the act, that might hurt Ron a bit.

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Maybe a cancelled check from the Hillary campaign? Room receipt from Epstein’s island? Autographed photo from Ru Paul?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I hate hate hate giving him credit, but Donald Trump Jr. wrote a single word about the announcement: “#DeSaster” and that’s not terrible.

I’d far sooner believe that a speechwriter wrote that for him. Or ChatGPT.

But your right it’s a good insult.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/714 "2023-05-26T17:03:35Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It’s all he’s got though. He’ll promise to push his bigotry and despotism on full display in Florida onto the rest of the country.

Is he also going to promise to fight any large company (job creator) who dares to promote that diversity and being kind to others is a good thing?

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He’ll leave that to Kid Rock, I suppose.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Is he also going to promise to fight any large company (job creator) who dares to promote that diversity and being kind to others is a good thing?

If he had Trump’s shitty charisma to fall back on, he could just infer that he’d sic his rabid followers on them and they’d fold like Target did. But instead he’s Meatball Ron.

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Today’s Wait Wait show- “what’s Ron DeSantis’s drag name?” “Ronda Santis.” I love it.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/718 "2023-06-01T18:15:22Z")

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It’s really funny how Ron exploded at a reporter this morning screaming ‘Are you blind? Are you blind?!’ Time for a sedative Governor.

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You know, it’s like Al Pacino’s character shouting that at Chris O’Donnell’s in ‘Scent of a Woman.’ It was probably a similarly unbalanced power dynamic. I loved that movie

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> **[Early alarm bells for DeSantis as Pence falls behind: Takeaways from new...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/politics/fundraising-reports-desantis-trump-biden/index.html)**
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> The first full financial look at the 2024 presidential race came into focus over the weekend as candidates filed campaign finance reports with federal regulators. They highlight potential trouble spots for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and expose a wide...

He’s now burning through money and dropping staff.

The GOP field is in total chaos. Trump is annihilating others in the pols, but that asshole is heading to the hoosegow. So I’m pretty damn sure the nominee will, of necessity, be someone else.

DeSantis is the one that many would have said would be the winner if Trump goes to jail. Until fairly recently at least, and I created this thread to dispute that sentiment. But now it seems that he’s beaten his head on Trump Rock and is getting taken out fairly early. (Even had he not done that, however, I don’t think he would have won–scroll up for details 🤣).

Anyhoo, all of these candidates suck, and I don’t think any of them has a chance against Biden, so… good!

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