# DeSantis's war on Disney **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 19, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073 "2022-04-19T18:56:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/41 "2022-04-20T14:13:29Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > How have they injected themselves “heavily” in the political process, really? Expressing what could best be described as milquetoast opposition to a single government bill? And this really derives from the outrage of some of Disney’s employees. So any objections raised by the company represent a business being responsive to its workers. Free market pressure, and all…That’s not a bad thing. > **[Disney workers walk out over the company's response to so-called 'Don't Say...](https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1088048998/disney-walkout-dont-say-gay-bill)** > > The full-scale walkout is a bid to urge the company to take a stronger stance against the Parental Rights in Education legislation in Florida, what critics have called the "Don't Say Gay" bill. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/42 "2022-04-20T14:17:55Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Free market pressure, and all… No no, it’s only “free market pressure” when it serves conservative interests. This is cancel culture and it’s BAD. Because socialism. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/43 "2022-04-20T16:05:08Z")
Nah, they have the same philosophy about both: rights are great when they use them, and should be restricted for anyone else. Dave Chappelle had it right - we’ll get gun control legislation in the US when _people of color_ start buying and registering guns in large numbers. Suddenly, an armed populace will be a dangerous idea. After all, look at all the restrictions on **voting** they’re coming up with. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/44 "2022-04-20T16:41:16Z")
> [@epbrown](#): > > Dave Chappelle had it right - we’ll get gun control legislation in the US when _people of color_ start buying and registering guns in large numbers. Suddenly, an armed populace will be a dangerous idea. As an example, look to California’s reaction to the Black Panthers in the 1960s. Remember, in addition to doing community betterment programs like school lunches, their modus operandi was to stand by and watch the police conduct their business - while armed with rifles. When they eventually showed up on the steps of the Capitol to read a copy of the Declaration of Independence, legally carrying a rifle in California became a problem. > [@](#): > > In 1967, California codified into law A.B 1591, otherwise known at the Mulford Act. Sponsored by Oakland assemblyman Don Mulford, A.B. 1591 made it a felony to publicly carry any firearm—either openly or concealed—in public places without a governmental license to do so. The law came about after the events of May 2, 1967, when a group of thirty Black Panthers appeared visibly armed at the California State Capitol building to protest an earlier version of A.B. 1591. At that time, there was nothing in California law that expressly prohibited the open carriage of firearms, either in public or private. A.B. 1591 effectively closed this loophole. [https://sites.law.duke.edu/secondthoughts/2020/04/08/the-black-panthers-nra-ronald-reagan-armed-extremists-and-the-second-amendment/](https://sites.law.duke.edu/secondthoughts/2020/04/08/the-black-panthers-nra-ronald-reagan-armed-extremists-and-the-second-amendment/) ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/45 "2022-04-20T17:18:45Z")
Of all the governmental gifts to private corporations Florida’s creating The Reedy Creek Improvement District is far and away the most egregious in modern history, rivaled only by the federal government giving away ten of millions of acres of public land to the railroads in the 19th century. The railroads all went bankrupt after a while, but Disney keeps making billions of dollars, year after year, on it true “magic kingdom” in Orlando. The legislation never should have been written and should have been snatched away the next time a moderately sane government controlled Florida. I can’t keep myself from laughing as I type that. Disney made those billions in part by catering to the same public that the Florida government listens to, which necessitated discrimination against a large and varied set of minority populations. Both the culture and governmental regulations had to change for these minorities to be welcomed. It’s an irony so gigantic and so unpredictable that a political satirist could never make it believable that Disney is now being attacked by an actual governmental body in the United States because it _refuses_ to discriminate against a particular minority today - one it had no qualms about squashing back in the past. No such thing as WOKE Disney exists. Dollar Signs Disney, sure, first, last, and always. DeSantis excelled at picking foes that couldn’t fight back, but Disney won’t let a penny go unclutched. No law or principle is involved. The issue is public theater and corporate revenue. A pox on both their houses. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/46 "2022-04-20T19:17:51Z")
Isn’t it also some kind of hotbed of promiscuous geezer sex? I want to say I read an article about that a while back. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/47 "2022-04-20T20:54:38Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > You make it sound so benign. The Republicans plan to eliminate two districts that reliably elect black people. CD5 reliably elects Black people because it is drawn in crazy shapes specifically for that purpose. The VRA demands minority majority districts, and because the Blacks in Florida don’t all live in one area you get crazy shapes. You used to live in Florida, right? Remember this map? [![](https://i.imgur.com/YR8kZgG.gif) ](https://i.imgur.com/YR8kZgG.gif) That’s CD5, and the Tallahassee-Jacksonville proposal took effect in 2017 because Supreme Court of Florida looked at the racial demographics and said, quote, “that way the Black candidate of choice is likely to win”. If it weren’t for DeSantis’s veto, Republicans would be good keeping Black districts Black. Because Blacks reliably vote Democratic, Republicans are happy to use race as a loophole to our state’s constitutional prohibition on political party gerrymandering. Blacks as a percentage of the population in CD10 are going down from like a fraction of one percentage point so I don’t know how big of a deal that is, as opposed to CD5. I wonder whether the Florida state courts will strike down the Governor’s map, which is certain to pass, or maybe even adopt the earlier map. There’s a lawsuit going on already. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/48 "2022-04-20T21:15:42Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Of all the governmental gifts to private corporations Florida’s creating The Reedy Creek Improvement District is far and away the most egregious in modern history, rivaled only by the federal government giving away ten of millions of acres of public land to the railroads in the 19th century. Disney bought the land where Disney World resides. It wasn’t given to them. It was literally swampland that was cheap to buy because it was _swampland_. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/49 "2022-04-20T21:51:06Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Isn’t it [The Villages] also some kind of hotbed of promiscuous geezer sex? I want to say I read an article about that a while back.   You say that like it’s a _bad_ thing? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/50 "2022-04-20T22:00:54Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Oh, and Ted Cruz put an image in my head that I didn’t want, suggesting that Disney will soon have Mickey and _Pluto_ going at it. Which is not only gay sex, but _beastiality._ Now that’s just silly on Cruz’s part. It was established, decades ago, that _Goofy_ is Pluto’s gay lover. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vudJivvHWqI/hqdefault.jpg "SOAP - When we were younger, there were no such things as homosexuals") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vudJivvHWqI) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/51 "2022-04-20T22:08:55Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > > [@Airbeck](#): > > > > DeSantis is trying to be the biggest, baddest, most cruel bully that exists so he can be president. Almost half of this country really really wants to hurt the other side very badly. It’s not going to end well. > > Yeah, with Republicans these days, the cruelty is the point. I guess when they said republicans aren’t ‘hurting the right people’ they mean corporations that make childrens media. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/52 "2022-04-20T22:09:16Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Now that’s just silly on Cruz’s part. It was established, decades ago, that _Goofy_ is Pluto’s gay lover. I think you have the details mixed up. It was Minnie. Judge to Mickey: You say you want a divorce because your wife is not in her right mind? Mickey to Judge: Well, I didn’t say exactly that. I said I want a divorce because she’s fucking Goofy. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/53 "2022-04-20T23:02:04Z")
I didn’t mean to imply that Florida gave Disney _land_. The gift was power and control and freedom from regulation. I only compared it to the railroads because I knew if I just said “greatest gift” someone would swoop in to nitpick. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/54 "2022-04-20T23:34:06Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > I think you have the details mixed up. It was Minnie. > > Judge to Mickey: You say you want a divorce because your wife is not in her right mind? > > Mickey to Judge: Well, I didn’t say exactly that. I said I want a divorce because she’s fucking Goofy. Clearly, Goofy is just cucking Mickey left and right. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/55 "2022-04-21T00:07:44Z")
As I understand it — and maybe I’m missing something important — most of the Reedy Creek District residents live in Celebration FL, and almost all 11,178 of them can’t vote for local officials because they don’t own the land their condo is on. See: [Celebration - government](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebration,_Florida#Government) With all the injustices in this world, that one surely ranks low. But it doesn’t sound right. Based on a bit of web search, I can’t figure out if there are local taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/56 "2022-04-21T00:43:06Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > You used to live in Florida, right? I grew up in Florida, and after a stint in Colorado, I’m back. I hate it here, but family (namely, my son, who lives with my soon to be ex-wife, but who I see regularly) was a strong motivator to return. I’m in very red Pasco county now, and work at a law firm that covers the Tampa/gulf coast region where I’m surrounded by Trumpists and other Republicans. … Incidentally, I believe that Disney originally envisioned Epcot to be an actual lived in city. So when he lobbied for this special district, I believe it was with the intent that he’d run a utopian town. > **[Walt Disney's Original Plan For Epcot](https://www.businessinsider.com/walt-disneys-original-plan-for-epcot-2012-6?amp)** ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/57 "2022-04-21T00:50:40Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > When Belle falls for the beast, or robin hood frolics with maid Marion, its all perfectly age appropriate because its about love not about sex. “I’ll tell you when you’re older.” ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/58 "2022-04-21T01:53:19Z")
That’s my understanding too. He wanted to run an actual city. And I work in the Villages, so let me just say, sometimes… 🤢 ~Max ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/59 "2022-04-21T01:53:36Z")
Hardly. Just not where I’d think a prominent Republican governor might hang out. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/60 "2022-04-21T02:17:55Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > It is no longer about how to make the country better Conservatism has never been about making the country better. It has always been about preserving the privileges of the status quo hierarchy. That is the _only_ value that conservatism has _ever_ had. If you look at every issue from that point of view, then conservatives no longer look hypocritical or self-contradictory. They are always protecting the one thing–the only thing–they care about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073.md?page=4)