# DeSantis's war on Disney

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 19, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073 "2022-04-19T18:56:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/121 "2022-04-22T15:28:03Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Disney would also have to prove the case that retaliation against the Reedy Creek Improvement District (a government agency) is the same as retaliation against Disney.

From the Wikipedia: “A five-member Board of Supervisors governs the District, elected by the landowners of the District.”

The landowner is the Walt Disney company - a single “person” - so it’s probably better described as an appointment rather than an election. And it would be difficult to say that axing your personally appointed manager of your personal, private property is somehow not going to affect you.

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> Nobody has the right to continuation of the municipal governance of their choosing. Everyone knows that the RCID is a cutout for Disney, but does that limit the state’s otherwise absolute and (federally) unreviewable authority to abolish a municipality?

Everything is Federally reviewable if it’s 1) the work of a non-Native American government, and 2) plausibly conflicts with the Bill of Rights.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/122 "2022-04-22T15:28:35Z")

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Ultimately, this is all theater. I expect that neither Disney nor Florida Republicans expect the law to ever actually be enacted. That’s why they set the law to take effect over a year from now. Lawsuits will tie it up for even longer. And in the meantime Disney and DeSantis will quietly work out some sort of arrangement where he can claim to have won a victory over “wokeness” while preserving the Mouse’s privileges.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/123 "2022-04-22T15:50:31Z")

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Should the law go into effect, they will no longer be able to issue municipal bonds, which carry a lower cost to the issuer compared to similarly situated corporate bonds, due to the tax treatment of munis.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/124 "2022-04-22T16:16:58Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Ultimately, this is all theater.

It’s theater where the fun and exciting part is that the government is playing around with restricting free speech.

For as much as the whole story is stupid from start to end, I find that particular aspect to be less than amusing.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/125 "2022-04-22T16:36:34Z")

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The Disneyworld experience is going to be enhanced with all the new helicopter flyovers, DUI checkpoints, and in-park SWAT team actions.

I can see DeSantis now: “A cop on every corner… of Main Street, USA!”

Bunch of Orlando PD are going to break into Cinderella’s castle looking for ‘immoral activities’. That will be fun.

In time, Disneyworld will be as special as Six Flags. Which is the entire point: to break Disney’s business model.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/126 "2022-04-22T16:55:12Z")

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Ah, the pro-business party at work.

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/127 "2022-04-22T17:54:59Z")

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It’s all political theater. The RCID can’t be dissolved without the approval of the district’s residents or landowners, and they’re all loyal Disney employees.

[Florida Statute 189.072 Dissolution of an independent special district.](https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/statutes/2015/189.072)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/128 "2022-04-22T18:02:19Z")

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That seems to be state law, passed by the legislature.

I don’t see why the legislature, if they desire to go ahead with this, couldn’t also amend that law to allow them to do so.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/129 "2022-04-22T18:04:39Z")

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But why didn’t they just do that now. Nothing would have stopped them. Stupidity? Or are they not actually serious about following through? I hear it also doesn’t take effect for a year. Conveniently after the elections.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/130 "2022-04-22T18:09:52Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> But why didn’t they just do that now. Nothing would have stopped them. Stupidity?

Possibly, or ignorance. I was not aware of that piece of legislation prior to now, it’s quite likely they are not either.

> [@Airbeck](#):
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> Or are they not actually serious about following through? I hear it also doesn’t take effect for a year. Conveniently after the elections.

I think that they are giving Disney room to back down and endorse the GOP again. Extortion works in many parts of their lives and careers, so they think that it’s just how it works, make threats to get people to get in line.

Disney actually has the resources to fight back, and like all bullies, they don’t know what to do when their desired victim gives them a bloody nose.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/131 "2022-04-22T18:12:01Z")

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Yeah I have a hard time seeing Disney just rolling over to the bully on this one. That is one wealthy and powerful corporation.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/132 "2022-04-22T18:19:02Z")

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The bully gets what he wants when the RCID revocation goes front page, above the fold. DeSantis wants to be known nationally as the guy who took on woke liberal corporations and made them back down.

When Disney gets what it wants - resumption of the RCID sometime before June of next year - it will be a small item on page A24, and DeSantis will have already formed his 2024 presidential campaign committee.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/133 "2022-04-22T18:20:17Z")

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DeSantis is trailing Charlie Crist by 13 points in the latest poll. He may not be Governor of Florida after November.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/134 "2022-04-22T18:35:34Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The Disneyworld experience is going to be enhanced with all the new helicopter flyovers, DUI checkpoints, and in-park SWAT team actions.
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> I can see DeSantis now: “A cop on every corner… of Main Street, USA!”
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> Bunch of Orlando PD are going to break into Cinderella’s castle looking for ‘immoral activities’. That will be fun.

Artist’s rendering:

[![](https://markb4.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/capture8.png) ](https://markb4.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/capture8.png)

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/135 "2022-04-22T18:37:06Z")

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He’s also tied with Nicki Fried. So there are two democrats that look very dangerous to him right now. I think he’s going really hard to get all the extreme Trump base, which he has been seemingly pretty successful at, but what he doesn’t have is charisma, crossover appeal, TV celebrity appeal. In other words, he doesn’t have the things Trump had that let him win despite the extreme noxiousness. That’s my hopeful view anyway.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/136 "2022-04-22T18:47:39Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> Yeah I have a hard time seeing Disney just rolling over to the bully on this one. That is one wealthy and powerful corporation.

Given that Disney probably has one of the largest legal forces on copyright and entertainment rights in the land, and isn’t foreign to the Supreme Court, I could see them taking it there just to flex.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/137 "2022-04-22T19:04:23Z")

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[Electoral-vote.com](http://Electoral-vote.com) has a good take on this whole matter:

> **[Electoral-vote.com](https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2022/Senate/Maps/Apr22.html#item-1)**
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> Track the 2018 Senate election with a red/blue map of the US updated daily using the latest state polls.

For example:

> [@](#):
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> The law that the legislature passed, and that DeSantis will soon sign, does not actually strip Disney of its privileges. It says they _will_ be stripped _unless_ the legislature renews the RCID. Conveniently, the deadline for that (June 2023) happens to be after the midterm elections. This sends a crystal clear message to the Disney muckety mucks: “Keep your fu\*\*ing mouse shut, if you know what’s good for you, and this can all blow over.” It couldn’t be plainer.

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> [@](#):
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> The first is that people are going to start noticing that [DeSantis is] a dangerous, dangerous man, more than willing to use his position of power to persecute any person or any company that displeases him. And nobody is safe. Last year, the Governor was ramming special protections _for_ Disney through the legislature. Now, he’s launching an assault against them, the single-biggest employer the state.
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> This behavior is also giving oppo researchers all kinds of material to work with.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/138 "2022-04-22T19:05:07Z")

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And let’s see what happens when the face-eating leopard tries to eat the face of the 16-ton mickeysaurus…

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/139 "2022-04-22T19:14:04Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I’m still not convinced that Disney as a corporation gives a particular shit about any marginalized community. It’s just the bottom line.

I know some people there, and Disney does care. But the bottom line is , indeed, more important.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantiss-war-on-disney/963073/140 "2022-04-22T19:35:10Z")

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In whose latest poll? [RealClearPolitics](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/governor/Florida.html) has him ahead in every poll they list. There aren’t many but the University of North Florida has him ahead of Crist by 21 and ahead of Fried by 23.

I did find one poll on [crowdwisdom](https://crowdwisdom.live/us-politics/florida-governor-race-2022-polls-2/#Florida_Governor_Election_2022_Polls_Candidates) that has Crist ahead by 12, but that’s the outlier and every other poll has him losing.

A new article on [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/21/politics/florida-governor-desantis-poll-numbers/index.html) says DeSantis’ approval rating has gone up over 50%.

Democrats need a miracle to win.

And obligatory disclaimer: never trust a single poll. Never. After the election you can go back and cherrypick the ones that came closest, but before the election you never can tell.

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