# Design your own "Mighty Avengers" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 21, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331 "2005-10-21T20:53:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331/41 "2005-10-24T15:00:46Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > 21[sup]st[/sup] Century **Avengers** : > > Captain America > Iron Man > Hercules (fresh off his miniseries) > Genis (Captain Marvel) > Gilgamesh (assuming the Eternals are still around) > Spiderman (because either he or Wolverine needs to be in every book) The Eternals are still around. It seems that Neil Gaimen is going to write a new series about them in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331/42 "2005-10-24T17:51:42Z")
OK, I’ll make another go at it. Not a traditional “Avengers,” by any means. (Maybe that’s a good thing. Probably not, though.) — **Mystique** : Well, like the original JLA thread said, “anybody…who’s not completely dead or totally villainous will join up if you call.” I’d say Mystique isn’t _completely_ villainous—although, by that standard, neither is Magneto. Or Doctor Doom. But I’m sure she could be convinced/bought off/blackmailed, for awhile at least. Anyway, with her skills and powers, she’d be useful to have around. (And better to have her “inside the tent pissing out, than outside pissing in,” to quote a President.) — **Razorback** : Remember him, from a couple decades back? The Texarkanan mutant with the ability to expertly operate any kind of vehicle? Granted, he had, uh, a couple of “image problems” (like the costume, and the C.B. radio fixation), but with a [del]hell of a lot of[/del] little work, I think he might be worth a shot. — **War Machine** : A nice, modern version of the armor, with someone who’s not afraid to use it. Remember that “mowing down the jungle” scene in _Predator_? Now imagine that, packed onto one guy. Who’s bulletproof and can fly. And who pulls it off every couple of days. — **Social Butterfly** from “Livewires.” Anyone else read this one? yeah, that’s what I thought But still, it’s always nice to have a cute, perky, borderline sociopathic android who can “hack” organic minds around. Lessie…I’m a bit groggy, but I think I still need at least a magician, a telepath/telekinetic, and a decent mad scientist, all preferably “offbeat.” Maybe if I got a vampire or something, I could combine a couple of those… But, in any case, I think I didn’t come up with “Earth’s Mightiest Heroes” so much as a “Metahuman Black Ops Squad.” Ah, well…at least you’d know who to turn to have the Kingpin garroted while you’re busy fighting off Galactus. 😃 Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331/43 "2005-10-25T03:37:22Z")
I like the Mystique idea. I’m going to throw her on to my list as well. I’ll even give up Ben Reilly if I need to stay at ten members. > [@](#): > > Maybe if I got a vampire or something, I could combine a couple of those… Marvel is currently promoting a new series called _Howling Commandos_ - a group of paranormal heroes. One of them is Nina Price, a werewolf who was bitten by a vampire. We’re talking serious munchkin powers. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331/44 "2005-10-26T03:42:46Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > Beast - because he’s smart and he’s been in every supergroup He wasn’t in The Champions. 😉 Anyway, I like my Avengers classic so: Captain America Thor Iron Man Wasp Beast Wonderman Vision Scarlet Witch (with the “I can break things” power, not the “I’m God” power" thanks) Hawkeye would be the core. Then for the helluvit, how 'bout a time-lost Nikki from the Guardians Of The Galaxy? Oh, and let’s add Star-Lord just to piss off Chris Claremont or John Byrne\* (let’s lose the stupid astrology stuff that was thrown into one version or another). And I _like_ the Razorback idea, so I’m swiping it. (The first villain my Avengers goes up against _has_ to be Dr. Doom, just so we can see Razorback meet Doom. Doom: You will KNEEL before me! Razorback: Back ‘em up, good buddy, or you’ll be gone, 10-7 Doom: 😕 Razorback: I’m tired o’ jaw-jackin’ with you, what with you comin’ in like a mud-duck ‘n’ all. Doom: 😕😕😕 Meanwhile the other Avengers get the Phantom Zone projecter (or whatever) set up and beam Doom into another dimension. Razorback: That’s a 10-4 good buddy. It’s a natural! 😃 \*Star-Lord was created by Steve Engelhart, IIRC, but Byrne/Claremont did a _great_ one-shot with the character and, IIRC one them (Claremont, I think) expressed dismay at how everyone since then has ruined the character. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331/45 "2005-10-26T09:46:00Z")
Glad to see Razorback has a supporter. 🙂 Just don’t let him wear that costume. Good god, don’t let him wear that costume. And I think I might add…[Agent Zero](http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/agentzero.htm)? He almost seems a bit too powerful—but hell, if the JLA can have Superman AND Batman on the same team, I figure this guy’s and Mystique isn’t too much. Geez, I think my team’s going end up doing more “Avenging” than Mossad. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331/46 "2005-10-26T15:20:43Z")
That was one of my issues with the Avengers, they never did much avenging! What about Starfox? He was a good character and would have been even better if they made him ever more like Errol Flynn. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331/47 "2005-11-13T01:36:53Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > He wasn’t in The Champions. 😉 > \*Star-Lord was created by Steve Engelhart, IIRC, but Byrne/Claremont did a _great_ one-shot with the character and, IIRC one them (Claremont, I think) expressed dismay at how everyone since then has ruined the character. Well, everyone who’s handles the character has made an extreme change with him. Claremond ditched the astrology angle. Moench ditched the helmet and retconned the Master of the Sun into one of those aliens who killed Peter Quill’s mother. Some more recent version of the character dispensed with Peter Quill entirely, and the most recent sighting (in the Ladronn **Inhumans** LS) had Quill’s father in the costume bringing him into the Marvel Universe proper for the first time. Star-Lord peaked with Claremont. He sorta had a point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/design-your-own-mighty-avengers/327331.md?page=2)