# Desperate Hausfraus 10/23 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661 "2005-10-24T14:43:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/1 "2005-10-24T14:43:52Z")
Susan ate something! Right on camera! She ate two chips and we saw her do it and everything! Oh, and, uh, yeah, Basement Guy and Lynette’s a twit and Edie’s funny and… Susan ate something! ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/2 "2005-10-24T15:49:27Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Susan ate something! Right on camera! She ate two chips and we saw her do it and everything! > > Oh, and, uh, yeah, Basement Guy and Lynette’s a twit and Edie’s funny and… > > Susan ate something! I got a big chuckle out of her agent calling her an Amazon! Hee. That HAD to be a nod to all of the people (AKA you and me) saying she’s too thin. I’m hating Lynette more and more every episode. Why can’t she find a different job, rather than give up time with her kids to go out drinking with someone she can’t stand? Oh that’s right, her kids suck. On the other hand, her kids behavior is primarily her fault anyway. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/3 "2005-10-24T16:31:53Z")
I liked this episode. We know that Dungeon Man is a mentally-challenged son, and I thought Lynette showed quite the smarts to put the kibosh on her boss. (Wasn’t _Boogie Shoes_ the same song Huffman danced to as Dana in _Sports Night_?) I felt so sorry for Bree. No resolution for her. I expect she will confront the doctor sometime soon. I was hoping Susan would not go with Grand Nagus Zek, aka Lonnie (aren’t there legal implications with her publishing company if she did that?) but I’m glad she saw the light at last. Usually they portray Susan as such a pushover. It’s nice to see she can draw a line once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/4 "2005-10-24T16:31:57Z")
The plot development is rather thin this season, isn’t it? I got some good laughs, but they really need to pick up the pace if they want to keep the audience around. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/5 "2005-10-24T16:36:50Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > The plot development is rather thin this season, isn’t it? It’s so odd you would say this in response to the most plot-heavy episode this season so far. We got advancement on the Susan/Mike/Zach plot, the Paul plot, the Bree murder plot, the Carlos plot and the Basement Man plot. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/6 "2005-10-24T16:38:26Z")
All I could think was that if Alfre Woodard could afford to buy a house on Wisteria Lane, she could afford to hire a good attorney for her son. Is she going to keep him prisoner forever? And when she dies, the duty passes to her other son? What was in the box that the mailman left? Whose house is the mail piling up at? I was watching from another room with my glasses off (quilting) and maybe missed something. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/7 "2005-10-24T16:43:55Z")
It’s piling up at Paul’s house. But what was of interest was not so much the box, but that the container was empty when the mailman put the box in. Paul is in the house. And I agree that this was a good episode. I think that Bree knows now how her husband died. She knew before she finished her conversation with the detective at the hospital. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/8 "2005-10-24T16:44:04Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > It’s so odd you would say this in response to the most plot-heavy episode this season so far. We got advancement on the Susan/Mike/Zach plot, the Paul plot, the Bree murder plot, the Carlos plot and the Basement Man plot. Well, in the sense that every journey begins with a single step. 🙂 I mean, how many characters have turned out to be gay this season? How many characters have been killed? Now that is plot development! Maybe we’ll find out that Basement Guy is gay, and then he’ll be killed. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/9 "2005-10-24T16:59:59Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > What was in the box that the mailman left? Whose house is the mail piling up at? I thought it was piling up at Felicia’s house. Don’t the Applewhites live in Paul’s old house? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/10 "2005-10-24T17:34:33Z")
I only caught a bit of this episode (Supernatural was on opposite it) but I must say… any show that let’s me oggle Joely Fisher’s cleavage… Is ACES in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/11 "2005-10-24T17:47:00Z")
Yeah, thanks for sharing that amazingly trenchant observation. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/12 "2005-10-24T18:14:32Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I was hoping Susan would not go with Grand Nagus Zek, aka Lonnie (aren’t there legal implications with her publishing company if she did that?) but I’m glad she saw the light at last. Usually they portray Susan as such a pushover. It’s nice to see she can draw a line once in a while. Susan draw a line in the sand? Inconceivable! > [@Push You Down](#): > > I only caught a bit of this episode (Supernatural was on opposite it) but I must say… any show that let’s me oggle Joely Fisher’s cleavage… Is ACES in my book. She’ll always be Paige from Ellen in my book (IMDB [link](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004921/)). Same way whatshisname will always be the “inconceivable!” guy from the Princess Bride. Edie hobbling after the funeral party made my week. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/13 "2005-10-24T20:03:03Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > I thought it was piling up at Felicia’s house. Don’t the Applewhites live in Paul’s old house? I don’t trust my memory on it 100%, but when the camera panned from the container, it was Paul inside the house. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/14 "2005-10-24T20:04:26Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I don’t trust my memory on it 100%, but when the camera panned from the container, it was Paul inside the house. It was Paul. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/15 "2005-10-24T20:13:59Z")
Yes, Paul was in the house, but isn’t the house itself the one formerly occupied by Felicia, and before that, her sister, Mrs Blender-to-the-puss? That would certainly be wicked creepy, having Paul hole up in the house of the woman he killed. Because, again, are not the Applewhites living in Paul and Zach/Dana’s old house? Is there, like, a map online of who lives where on Wisteria Lane? I really have no sense of where people live in relation to each other. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/16 "2005-10-24T20:24:01Z")
Caught a few snippets at the beginning (I hadn’t planned to watch at all, but my wife wanted to see it). The “tightass person only needs a little sex and will be fine” with Lynnette’s boss was a cliche 30 years ago. Hardly funny, and really lame. Then there was Susan meeting with her agent. He out-and-out admits he embezzled clients’ funds. But she keeps him as an agent. Idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot! You _have_ to have a trustworthy agent. This one is out-and-out stealing money from clients. (Not from you, he says. And you believe it. Of course. What possible reason would he have to lie about that? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ). I don’t care how trusting Susan is, you don’t, under any circumstances, give responsibility for your livelihood to someone who is stealing from his clients. It is so monumentally stupid that it left me dumbfounded (at the time). And to see it happening with someone who supposedly makes a living writing books only compounds it all. At the very least, you’d want a full independent audit of the agent’s books before even beginning to consider it (at the agent’s expense, too). Yet Susan agrees with about five seconds of thought. There are small kitchen appliances that are smarter than Susan. If she’s caught in the rain, she would probably look up open-mouthed to see what was going on and drown. Wallace Shawn was funny (“Embezzlement. Why does everyone keep using that word?”), but the scene showed such a monumental lack of common sense that there was clearly no point in watching any more of the tripe factory this show has become. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/17 "2005-10-24T22:22:53Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > (Wasn’t _Boogie Shoes_ the same song Huffman danced to as Dana in _Sports Night_?) Indeed it was. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/18 "2005-10-24T22:27:37Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > And to see it happening with someone who supposedly makes a living writing books only compounds it all. Key word is “supposedly”. I don’t think we’ve ever seen Susan working at anything. Another annoying thing about this show (I hate people who jump into threads just to bitch about things other people enjoy…but I will anyway) is the voice-over at the beginning, that establishes out-of-the-blue backstory. “Susan’s agent, Lonnie, was just the bestest guy and had always been there for her at every point in her life yada yada yada…”. Really? Funny how this indispensable joined-at-the-hip person has never come up before. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/19 "2005-10-24T23:08:28Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Yeah, thanks for sharing that amazingly trenchant observation. Anytime. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661/20 "2005-10-24T23:09:57Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Because, again, are not the Applewhites living in Paul and Zach/Dana’s old house? No. Zach blackmailed Paul into not selling the house. I thought the mail was piling up at Paul’s house, but the Applewhite’s are in another family’s house. There was a bit of a montage where they moved out because they were disgusted at the goings-on in the neighborhood, and I think Lynette had a little daydream that some Swedish family with twin girls moved in, and her twins married their girls. I was a bit :dubious: when Susan jumped to stay Lonnie’s client, but I think that’s the way she is…she thinks with her heart, not her head. I was glad to see she came to her senses at the end. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-hausfraus-10-23/327661.md?page=2)