# Desperate Housewives 12/19 \[ Unboxed SPOILERS \] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 20, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731 "2004-12-20T03:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/1 "2004-12-20T03:09:33Z")
Unboxed spoilers for those on the West Coast…be warned! When Maisy opened her door to Rex I screamed. And quite frankly, his little fetish isn’t as bad as I thought. I thought he was gay. (Not that being gay is bad. You know what I mean.) Could Gabrielle have emptied out her two-story house that quickly? I think not. (She started when Maisie was getting ready for Rex, and was done when Rex had his heart attack.) So Lynette is sabotaging the nanny? Jeez, lady, make up your mind! I feel sorry that Zack is back home. It really creeped me out when Paul said it was nice that things were back to normal. I’m a little screwy on the time line…Mrs. Huber’s been gone for four days? That’s what Edie said. Yet Gabrielle was able to organize and put on an elegant charity fashion show during that time? Bree’s little tight-wound ultimatum to Rex made me scream again. I was half expecting Rex to grab her and drag her into his hospital bed. It seemed like it was what he wanted, for Bree to play the dominatrix. But why is this show nominated for a Golden Globe as Best Comedy? It’s not a comedy. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/2 "2004-12-20T03:15:56Z")
I missed a few bits. Have we met this Maisy person before and how do we know her? ---
**Author:** ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/3 "2004-12-20T03:27:10Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > I missed a few bits. > > Have we met this Maisy person before and how do we know her? She’s a parent at the school that Lynnette’s children attend. She was the head honcho for the school play, and a serious control freak who didn’t take well to having Lynnete come in and question her decisions about how the play should be done. (All the other Moms were properly cowed, and quaked in fear and wouldn’t question Maisy until Lynnete stood up to her.) ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/4 "2004-12-20T03:32:07Z")
Yes, dear Maisy wanted to change Little Red Riding Hood so the wolf wasn’t killed at the end. I think she wanted LRRH and the wolf to talk, and he would learn the errors of his ways, and happily ever after. That was also the episode that Lynette started popping her children’s Ritalin, so she could get the costumes done on time. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/5 "2004-12-20T03:37:06Z")
Ah, thanks, now I remember her. I was watching from across the room without my glasses while preoccupied with something else so I couldn’t really recognize what was going on too well. I thought that was Sharon Lawrence but I wasn’t sure. So what exactly was going on there? Is Maisy a working girl or just having affairs? I really need to drink less wine and pay more attention … and wear my glasses. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/6 "2004-12-20T03:39:19Z")
I think she’s a bored housewife. In the morning and evening she’s the perfect wife, but in the afternoon she likes to entertain. I don’t know that it was stated she took money for her favors…just that she may have started after her husband lost their job and they had to give up their club membership. She and Bree certainly had a civil conversation, though. I’m waiting for Bree to go postal. She’s wrapped up too tight. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/7 "2004-12-20T03:40:32Z")
Oh, and thank you to whoever mod added the Unboxed Spoiler warning to the title. It is appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/8 "2004-12-20T04:45:55Z")
I don’t know if I missed something, but did they explain why Gabrielle burned Carlos’ passport? He can’t get out of jail without it so does she want to keep him there? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/9 "2004-12-20T04:49:48Z")
> [@Grace](#): > > I don’t know if I missed something, but did they explain why Gabrielle burned Carlos’ passport? He can’t get out of jail without it so does she want to keep him there? I think we’re supposed to understand that she no longer trusts him. The fact that he had papers that needed burning was a sign to her that he wasn’t innocent of the charges, and perhaps that he’s a flight risk (even without the passport). ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/10 "2004-12-20T06:42:18Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Bree’s little tight-wound ultimatum to Rex made me scream again. I was half expecting Rex to grab her and drag her into his hospital bed. It seemed like it was what he wanted, for Bree to play the dominatrix. It sure did. Do you think it’s a coincidence, or do you think she and Maisy had a detailed conversation about Rex’s “needs.” If she were given to understand that Rex needed to be punished to be satisfied, I can picture Bree setting herself that task and going about it with her usual zeal for perfection. Oh yeah. It doesn’t matter if it’s “What you need to get the shine back on that table is a can of mineral spirits, a shammy, and four hours of hard labour,” or “You want to keep your man, you’ve got to make him feel like a miserable worm who _deserves_ to be walked all over.” Bree is going to set about it with grim determination. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/11 "2004-12-20T07:00:01Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > She and Bree certainly had a civil conversation, though. I’m waiting for Bree to go postal. She’s wrapped up too tight. I wonder how civil it’s going to stay - she told Maisy she “pitied” her - the one thing, the _very_ thing that Maisy stated at the beginning of the show as the thing she hated the most: to be pitied. Specifically, the woman she was talking about who she hated pitying her was Bree! The look on Maisy’s face when Bree said “I pity you” - peeeeeericeless! I love Bree, though 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/12 "2004-12-20T13:29:31Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > It sure did. Do you think it’s a coincidence, or do you think she and Maisy had a detailed conversation about Rex’s “needs.” I don’t think they had a conversation about Rex’s fetish. Bree got up and left after she asked Maisy if she satisfied his needs. And where were Andrew and Danielle? Their dad’s in the hospital, and they’re nowhere to be found? How many children does Lynette have? I’ve heard four, and I’ve seen the twins, and occassionally a baby in a stroller, but there was no sign of the baby with the nanny. How many and how old? For some reason I thought the twins were the middle kids, but when she was reading a story to the boys I got the feeling the twins were the oldest. And I guess hubby is out of town, since both times Lynette settled down with the nannytape she was alone in bed. I find all these continuity errors interesting, and how we’re willing to cut them so much slack because the show is so addicting. Berman and Braga should be so lucky. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/13 "2004-12-20T15:45:01Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > So Lynette is sabotaging the nanny? Jeez, lady, make up your mind! > > I feel sorry that Zack is back home. It really creeped me out when Paul said it was nice that things were back to normal. As for Lynette, I think her ambivalence about the nanny is really quite natural. She likes having the help, but at the same time, she feels like a failure because she couldn’t manage the kids well. As for Zach, did you notice the closeup on the mashed potatoes? My guess is that his father loaded them with drugs of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/14 "2004-12-20T16:10:16Z")
I noticed the mashed potato close up as well, it it was drugs in the spuds, to what end would he need them? As for when Bree told Maisey “I pitty you…” And the subsequent look on Maisey’s face… I loved it. Because Bree knew that was the absolute worse thing she could have said to her… She’s shrewed, and I like it…I LIKE IT A LOT! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/15 "2004-12-20T16:11:13Z")
I was starting to be a little more sympathetic to Bree, till last night. No, she doesn’t know her husband wants to be dominated – that was the real deal for her, and the fact that her husband dug it is merely ironic. She’s all about appearances. ABC’s web site described Sharon Lawrence as a guest star – I hope they make her a regular, that’s a great character! Marla Sokoloff, who plays the nanny, is also described as a guest star – should we infer she’s not long for chez Lynette? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/16 "2004-12-20T16:17:06Z")
> [@Dewey Finn](#): > > As for Zach, did you notice the closeup on the mashed potatoes? My guess is that his father loaded them with drugs of some sort. I thought that too, except that when Zach turned down the potatoes his father took them himself. It was my impression that Maisy was doing it for the money. Greatest suspension of disbelief required: that someone as hot as Teri Hatcher has so much trouble getting laid. Pretty sure Lynette had 4 kids in a previous episode. The baby was missing last night. And now that Lynette has a nanny, why doesn’t she go back to work? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/17 "2004-12-20T16:23:46Z")
Well, Zach’s dad was really pushing the potatoes on him. And that was after Zach said he was remembering things about Dana. That’s what made me suspicious. ---
**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/18 "2004-12-20T16:25:10Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > ABC’s web site described Sharon Lawrence as a guest star – I hope they make her a regular, that’s a great character! Marla Sokoloff, who plays the nanny, is also described as a guest star – should we infer she’s not long for chez Lynette? Not necessarily - it could just mean that they use her as they need her, but she’s not a regular. It may also be a dodge - IIRC, “special guest stars” can get paid above what regular cast members make for a particular episode. I seem to recall that the producers of “Melrose Place” used this dodge to basically keep paying Heather Locklear a premium for years, even though she was in practically every episode. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/19 "2004-12-20T18:26:00Z")
> [@Dewey Finn](#): > > Well, Zach’s dad was really pushing the potatoes on him. And that was after Zach said he was remembering things about Dana. That’s what made me suspicious. I didn’t catch that part. I took it more to mean that his father doesn’t listen to him, since Zach told him twice he didn’t want any more potatoes. Then, when he asked a third time, Zach said yes because he knew there was no point in arguing. I’m probably overanalyzing, though. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731/20 "2004-12-20T18:38:44Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > And now that Lynette has a nanny, why doesn’t she go back to work? Because she would explode in a paroxysm of guilt over abandoning her children, becoming a guilt-paylod-bearing satelite, achieving low-earth orbit and beaming guilt rays over vast tracts of previously guilt-free wilderness. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desperate-housewives-12-19-unboxed-spoilers/280731.md?page=2)