# Despicable: McCain & child sexual predators

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887 "2008-09-10T01:59:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/201 "2008-09-11T20:00:51Z")

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It’s BULLSHIT that we’re only taking Obama’s word for it. We can read the fucking bill for ourselves.

And you still haven’t answered my question.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/202 "2008-09-11T20:12:54Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Bring me the head of Ann Coulter, and we’ll talk.

[Someone may have beaten you to it.](http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Brad/greek.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/203 "2008-09-11T20:16:05Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Take this bitch down.

Okay, sure.

**Veb** , shut the fuck up, you crazy bitch.

All better now?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/204 "2008-09-11T20:40:34Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> And you still haven’t answered my question.

Your dissatisfaction is not my concern.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/205 "2008-09-11T20:48:13Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Someone may have beaten you to it.](http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Brad/greek.jpg)

Someone finally killed that hateful bitch! Time to party!

There is an entire section of hell divided up for Coulter and her ilk.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/206 "2008-09-11T20:48:25Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Your dissatisfaction is not my concern.

Coward.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/207 "2008-09-11T20:50:34Z")

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Now, now.

There is a fine line between cowardice and being full of shit.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/208 "2008-09-11T21:00:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Okay, sure.

**Veb** , shut the fuck up, you crazy bitch.

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Daunting, **Miller**.  
That was sure a honey of a meltdown, though. And over, well, pitifully little.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/209 "2008-09-11T21:17:11Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Why was this perfume not sold for three hundred denarii and given to poor people?

Oh, this is too easy.

John 12:7 “Leave her alone,” Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial.

John 12:8 You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me.”

Kind of egomaniacal in the view of this unbeliever, but not inconsistant with his earlier injunctions for rich people to sell all their posessions and give them to the poor. So unless you’re spending your money on perfume to annoint Jesus, I don’t think he’d approve of your filthy lucre. 😛

I’ll start a new thread on this soon. Not picking on you in particular, just wondering how wealthy devout christians justify themselves.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/210 "2008-09-11T21:19:32Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> I’ll start a new thread on this soon. Not picking on you in particular, just wondering how wealthy devout christians justify themselves.

God is good to His followers.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/211 "2008-09-11T21:22:27Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Bring me the head of Ann Coulter, and we’ll talk. Until then, fuck right off, you disingenuous shit.

Is it the new standard of political discourse that we’re supposed to end each exchange with an insult?

Anyway, the head of Ann Coulter? Here you go:

[http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MmVhMGI5NGFjZjIxMjBmMTE5N2FlYzgzNGFmZTYzZGQ=](http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MmVhMGI5NGFjZjIxMjBmMTE5N2FlYzgzNGFmZTYzZGQ=)

We don’t want her. She’s anybody’s bitch. Open contract. Her and Michael Moore would make a great couple.

I’ll add to that a personal condemnation of her vitriol. I promise that if she ever shows up on the board and starts spewing hate, I will follow her from thread to thread, get in her face, denounce her, etc.

Now it’s your turn.

(I’m just not feeling the hate, but I don’t want to defy convention. I’ll try something, here goes)

I hope someone switches your liberal organic veggie burger, for a hormone injected, cruelly killed McD’s

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/212 "2008-09-11T21:27:34Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> What, you think every time \*\*Red Fury \*\*blows a gasket, I gotta put on sack cloth and ashes, spend three days droning apologies to everybody to the right of **John Mace**?

Not at all, but you should beat on him a little. It’s the only way a dog learns its master’s displeasure.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/213 "2008-09-11T21:37:14Z")

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I’m not going to behead anybody but I will say that making a sweeping statement that anyone who votes for McCain is “contemptible” is untrue, counter-productive, uneccessarily hostle and emotional rather than rational. It’s little different than the Coultergeist saying all liberals are “traitors.”

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/214 "2008-09-11T21:37:49Z")

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Unless you work for NRO, or are asserting that NRO constitutes the entire “we” that is Conservative America, no points will be awarded. Especially when NRO fired her not for being a rotten person, not even for being a rotten writer, but for _hurting their widdle feelings_.

> [@NRO](#):
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> So let me be clear: We did not “fire” Ann for what she wrote, even though it was poorly written and sloppy. We ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty.

A cursory search of posts by Scylla containing the word “Coulter” found no condemnations. I’m perfectly willing to be enlightened here, but what have you, personally, done to \*prove \*that you find her behavior unacceptable, in the way you seem to believe we should re: TVeblen?

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/215 "2008-09-11T21:58:58Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Unless you work for NRO, or are asserting that NRO constitutes the entire “we” that is Conservative America, no points will be awarded.

There’s them, and talk radio. Pretty much we keep our brains and reason at NRO.

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> Especially when NRO fired her not for being a rotten person, not even for being a rotten writer, but for _hurting their widdle feelings_.

They pretty clearly, I think expressed their displeasure with some of her more extreme and hostile comments.

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> A cursory search of posts by Scylla containing the word “Coulter” found no condemnations. I’m perfectly willing to be enlightened here, but what have you, personally, done to \*prove \*that you find her behavior unacceptable, in the way you seem to believe we should re: TVeblen?

I was a defender of Coulter for a while, even after her “convert them all to Christianity” thing. I will further confess that every now and then when I get shit on by a liberal here, or see something on the left that I don’t like, I will slither over to Coulter’s website and embrace the hatred for a while. On occasion when I do so I am dismayed to find a fairly reasonable article. She still does those every now and then.

I do not think that she should be shouted down at auditoriums where she’s invited to speak. I don’t think things should be thrown at her.

I think she knows exactly what she is doing. I think she caters to and creates hatred. I think she deliberately baits liberals into attacking her so she can use that as an example of how mean and stupid they are. I think she is cynical and revels in the hatred she creates.

She engages in selective perception to present one side of the story, and is guilty of most of the tactics she accuses others of. In some cases, such as today’s column, she proactively adopts tactics simply because she expects them to be used against her down the road (A kind of Bush doctrine, of political discourse “you’re about to lie about me, so I’ll lie about you first.”) She is proud of this.

I regret defending her in 2001 and 2002, as she has embraced divisiveness and hatred, and even her columns which are “reasonable” do nothing to promote a rational viewpoint.

You can do a deep search, or take my word for it, but I beleive I’ve expressed those sentiments on this board.

Now may I please have Veb’s head?

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/216 "2008-09-11T21:59:06Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Unless you work for NRO, or are asserting that NRO constitutes the entire “we” that is Conservative America, no points will be awarded. Especially when NRO fired her not for being a rotten person, not even for being a rotten writer, but for _hurting their widdle feelings_.  
> A cursory search of posts by Scylla containing the word “Coulter” found no condemnations. I’m perfectly willing to be enlightened here, but what have you, personally, done to \*prove \*that you find her behavior unacceptable, in the way you seem to believe we should re: TVeblen?

Oh, now _this_ isn’t a hijack. 😉 😛

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/217 "2008-09-11T22:25:13Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> crushingly higher tax rates.

I’m sorry, but this particular clause made me snort with laughter…

Excuse me while I shed a sorry tear for those making over 250,000/year, whose top rate may possibly go from 35% to 39%. I hope that they are not too “crushed”, and can still afford basic amenities.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/218 "2008-09-11T22:27:29Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m sorry, but this particular clause made me snort with laughter…
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> Excuse me while I shed a sorry tear for those making over 250,000/year, whose top rate may possibly go from 35% to 39%. I hope that they are not too “crushed”, and can still afford basic amenities.

well, **you** try walking w/your head held high as you’re boarding your unbranded yacht.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/219 "2008-09-11T22:51:47Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> Oh, now _this_ isn’t a hijack. 😉 😛

Yeah. It is. Sadly, there is no shamefaced smiley. Settle for :smack:.

**Scylla** , my attention span disinclines me toward doing a deeper search, so I’ll take your word for it that you more of less disapprove of Coulter. But since I find \*\*TVeblen \*\*to be far more reasonable far more often than Coulter, no head for you. /:o/ 😉

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/220 "2008-09-11T23:15:06Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Yeah. It is. Sadly, there is no shamefaced smiley. Settle for :smack:.

Of course, dear. Anything for you! 😃

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