# Despicable: McCain & child sexual predators **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887 "2008-09-10T01:59:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/21 "2008-09-10T05:20:31Z")
I wonder why I’m always surprised. I saw it before, I expected it, saw it coming, and yet here it is, and I’m surprised and shocked. No, I’m fucking _stunned!_ I see it, I’m looking right at it, and I still don’t quite believe it. Maybe its kind of like the old Russian peasants, starving, cold and miserable, yet still believed that the Czar loved them, it was his minister’s fault, if he knew how his people suffered, he would be furious, he would have those lying courtiers knouted. I’d still like to believe John McCain doesn’t know whats being done in his name. There’s still some of that left in me, something that still wants to believe that this is a contest between honorable men who simply disagree. And the horror of horrors, the cherry atop the turd sundae? Obama refuses to fight shit with shit, and may lose because of it. I love democracy with every fiber of my being, but God Allmighty, what a _bitch_ she can be! ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/22 "2008-09-10T05:27:10Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Yep, I’ve got to agree with the OP. Despicable. > > That’s two unfair slams in one day for Obama. This is not his week. Elaborate, pretty please. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/23 "2008-09-10T05:31:49Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Elaborate, pretty please. There’s this one and there’s [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482599). Rove is starting to feel his oats, I think. Of course, he’s also trying to keep himself out of prison, so I guess he’s extra motivated. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/24 "2008-09-10T05:33:55Z")
I think Obama’s official response was good, but he better not let this go. [From here (bolding mine).](http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-response-to-mccain-ad-education/) > [@](#): > > “It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, **John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why** ,” says Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an emailed statement. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/25 "2008-09-10T05:36:49Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I agree with the OP on this one. It’s despicable. I can’t think of the last time that **Scylla** and **Diogenes the Cynic** agreed in a political thread. Maybe McCain really is bringing Americans together. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/26 "2008-09-10T05:38:13Z")
Hold up, I want to clarify this: Obama wants to pass pamphlets out to kindergarteners warning them of Mr. Badtouch, how to avoid him, and what to do if he comes a’callin’? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/27 "2008-09-10T05:38:50Z")
I don’t know. How many times can you let a guy slime you and still keep giving him the POW Honor Pass? McCain damn near called Obama a child molester in that ad. For a guy who promised he wouldn’t go negative, that seems kind of negative. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/28 "2008-09-10T05:39:25Z")
Don’t worry, friend **'luci** , the gloves have come off. Not only have the come out with an ad that actually doesn’t pull any punches and outright calls McCain and Palin liars, but they’re now pegging him with having no honor, and they’re hitting him **hard**. > [@](#): > > “It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,” said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton. > > [http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-response-to-mccain-ad-education/](http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-response-to-mccain-ad-education/) > [@](#): > > “Enough is enough. The Mc Cain campaign’s attack tonight is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy – the same analogy that Senator McCain himself used about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s health care plan just last year. This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run,” said Obama campaign senior advisor Anita Dunn. > > [http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-response-to-attacks-over-lipstick-on-a-pig-remark/](http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-response-to-attacks-over-lipstick-on-a-pig-remark/) And the best the McShame camp could come up with was yet another version of Noun Verb P.O.W. > [@](#): > > “The Obama campaign has not disputed any of the facts in our ad, but if they want to question John McCain’s honor and record of service to this country, then that’s a debate we welcome.” –McCain spokesman Brian Rogers > > [http://thepage.time.com/mccain-camp-statement-responding-to-obama-camp-response-to-ad/](http://thepage.time.com/mccain-camp-statement-responding-to-obama-camp-response-to-ad/) I have a feeling that Karl Rove has finally met his match. Not in getting down in the dirt along with him, but for strongly, angrily and vehemently calling them what they are - dishonorable, filthy liars. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/29 "2008-09-10T05:39:45Z")
Had to look to be sure, but there it is: “I’m John McCain, and I approved this message”. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/30 "2008-09-10T05:40:12Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > I can’t think of the last time that **Scylla** and **Diogenes the Cynic** agreed in a political thread. Maybe McCain really is bringing Americans together. **Sam Stone** too. And Sam agreed with me TWICE today. I wonder if it has anything to do with that atom smasher they’re turning on tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/31 "2008-09-10T05:54:20Z")
> [@C3](#): > > **McCain & child sexual predators** Thank you for putting that image into my head. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/32 "2008-09-10T06:04:41Z")
Well, even if it was more comprehensive than just teaching them to avoid pedophiles/sex offenders, is that so bad? Learning about sex ed doesn’t mean _doing_ it. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/33 "2008-09-10T06:15:17Z")
All the more reason not to vote for that bastard McCain. I’m getting more and more fed up with him every day. I’m going to write-in a candidate instead. I was going to vote for Tom Laughlin but now I’m contemplating going for Mickey Mouse or The Incredible Hulk. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/34 "2008-09-10T06:28:01Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Hold up, I want to clarify this: Obama wants to pass pamphlets out to kindergarteners warning them of Mr. Badtouch, how to avoid him, and what to do if he comes a’callin’? Anybody? Bueller? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/35 "2008-09-10T06:36:10Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Anybody? Bueller? Well, I doubt there would be pamplets. Most kindergarteners haven’t started reading yet. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/36 "2008-09-10T06:39:20Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Anybody? Bueller? No. > [@](#): > > . . . “Obama doesn’t want to hand out condoms to five year olds. He doesn’t want cucumber demonstrations as part of show and tell. The legitimate reasonable discussion here is whether the federal government and/or local school boards should get involved in providing these five year olds information about inappropriate touching or should it be left up to families only.” > > Obama spokesman Bill Burton tells First Read: “You can teach a kid about what’s appropriate and not appropriate to protect them from predators out there.” In addition, he issued a document showing that the Oregon Department of Education has guidelines for sex education for children in grades K-3 (which includes understanding the difference between a good touch and a bad touch), and that the Sexuality Information And Education Council of the United States has curriculum for those in kindergarten. > > [http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/19/277886.aspx](http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/19/277886.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/37 "2008-09-10T06:44:53Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Anybody? Bueller? Oh…you were serious? No. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/38 "2008-09-10T06:49:14Z")
This is negative campaigning at its finest/slimiest. Poor show, McCain. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/39 "2008-09-10T07:01:12Z")
Yeah, but you’re going to vote for him now, because of how rude you think Obama’s _supporters_ have been, in calling out his cynically political and deeply offensive pick for a vice president. You’d rather subject the rest of us to having a dishonorable prick like him running our country, than for yourself have to put up with people being mean to someone you don’t even know on a message board. Boo fucking hoo and fuck you, you jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887/40 "2008-09-10T07:26:24Z")
I don’t get it. I don’t like the ad either but the ‘one accomplishment’ says simply teaching sex education to primary schoolers. Nothing about sexual predators. Seems more like an attack ad that purports to highlight Obama’s lack of accomplishment. Seems to me you guys are reading far too much into it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-mccain-child-sexual-predators/462887.md?page=3)