# Despicable/Morally depraved fictional characters...Ain't they lovable? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 24, 2003, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367 "2003-08-24T19:10:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_A_Tame_Lion)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367/81 "2003-09-22T22:09:45Z")
Did I miss something, or has no one bothered to mention Keyser Soze _(The Usual Suspects)_ yet? ---
**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367/82 "2003-09-22T22:21:24Z")
Q… more a brat than a bad guy… he did put the human race (and data) on trial. ---
**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367/83 "2003-09-22T22:46:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bomzaway \* > \*\*I loved the villian in **Highlander**. The church scene, where he tamps out the candles and wags his tongue at the nuns is just priceless. His rampage on the streets of the city was great too. That guy MADE that film. \*\* The Kurgan? He is awsome! Clancy Brown can be the bad guy any day. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367/84 "2003-09-23T00:57:31Z")
Mrs. Danvers in _Rebecca_ ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367/85 "2003-09-23T02:27:27Z")
Has anybody mentioned Sands, played by Johnny Depp in the new movie _Once Upon a Time in Mexico_? The man does terrible things without hesitation, yet it’s hard to stay mad at him. Somebody beat me to Iago, but Shakespeare’s a pretty deep well when it comes to villains, so I’ll pull out Aaron, the mischievous Moor from _Titus Andronicus_. He’s very frank about his own character, and cheerfully admits, _Tut, I have done a thousand dreadful things As willingly as one would kill a fly; And nothing grieves me heartily indeed, But that I cannot do ten thousand more._ As for his idea of fun, he states, _Oft have I digg’d up dead men from their graves, And set them upright on their dear friends’ doors, Even when their sorrows almost was forgot; And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, Have with my knife carved in Roman letters, “Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.”_ Man, that’s hardcore. ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367/86 "2003-09-23T03:27:51Z")
I honestly can not believe you people ☹ How can you talk about villains and not mention Gary Oldman in 5th Element and Leon. Psycotic, moraleless and 100% pure grade A evil. Alan Rickman in Diehard and Robinhood comes as a close second (the spoon qoute is permanently engraved in my memory) As far as books go how about Shrike and Radmanta Nemez from the Hyperion series, very colorfull pair considering both have the ability to pause reverse and twist time and very frequently tear people to shreds in slow and painful ways. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367/87 "2003-09-23T03:32:05Z")
well, my favorite has already been mentioned. Alex in _a clockwork orange_. but I can’t believe no one has mentioned **Deacon Frost** from Blade. Stephan Dorff pulled that roll off. also, Val Kilmer as **Doc Holliday** isn’t exactly a paragon of virtue, but he’s a damn cool character. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/despicable-morally-depraved-fictional-characters-aint-they-lovable/197367.md?page=4)