# Deterring Iran from making nukes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deterring-iran-from-making-nukes/529163>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 16, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deterring-iran-from-making-nukes/529163 "2010-02-16T04:04:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deterring-iran-from-making-nukes/529163/101 "2010-02-19T22:10:39Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> the country that is always right

The Vatican?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deterring-iran-from-making-nukes/529163/102 "2010-02-20T00:30:45Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> The Vatican?

Actually, that’s more of a city-state than a full grown country.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deterring-iran-from-making-nukes/529163/103 "2010-02-20T00:37:31Z")

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But they do have that whole papal infallibility thing going.

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deterring-iran-from-making-nukes/529163/104 "2010-02-20T00:39:35Z")

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> [@Dick\_Dastardly](#):
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> You’re just not allowed to have any opinion other than a solidly pro-Israel one if you’re a public figure and you don’t want to be accused of being anti-Israel or antisemitic. An even-handed viewpoint is unacceptable. It’s now at the stage where they’ve got an effective veto over American governmental appointments. They just smear anybody they don’t like till they get their way, which kind of enforces a pro-Israel orthodoxy on American government. So while the majority of Jewish-Americans might reject all this the people with the power are having more and more success at enforcing what they want on the American polity.

Further and curiously the position is underpinned by a deep anti-semitism itself, often seen here on the 'dope. The quiet attitude is that ‘of course they need our help; you cannot expect any better than barbarity from the Israelis. They are only Jews.’

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deterring-iran-from-making-nukes/529163/105 "2010-02-20T00:46:45Z")

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Turnspeak is fun.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deterring-iran-from-making-nukes/529163/106 "2010-02-20T03:18:42Z")

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Page after page of sniping is not fun.

Closed.

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