# Deus Ex: Human Revolution **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 28, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678 "2011-07-28T23:12:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/281 "2011-10-10T16:45:33Z")
I am armed with stun gun, tranq rifle and sniper rifle. Thinking about dumping the sniper rifle for the laser rifle before the elevator. Would that mow him down? I have tried the run the perimeter and just seem to run forever. Is stopping at each corner a must? Then just wait for him to get close and stun gun or laser to the face? Ugg, just game breakingly annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_the_turtle/32/2926_2.png) [@Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_the_Turtle)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/282 "2011-10-10T17:28:31Z")
When I got off the elevator I had Frag grenades cued up and threw 2 of those immediately. Those seemed to damage/stun him so that he didn’t cloak or run around. I ran toward him and emptied the combat rifle into his face. It was surprisingly easy as previous I was trying to run around and throw emp grenades. ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/283 "2011-10-10T17:38:36Z")
I have emp and flash bangs, as I have made it through the game till now without using a lethal device (except for bosses). No frags, no heavy weapons. I can go scour the base I just cleared out and see what I can find, but not sure there are frags around. Hate being forced to be a commando when I have been a ghost the whole game, prior. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/284 "2011-10-10T19:51:57Z")
> [@Inthewater](#): > > I went strong stealth and got hit by the EMP/disable event at the beginning of the fight. Go back to an earlier save file and don’t get the new biochip? ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/285 "2011-10-10T20:01:32Z")
That is quite a while back, I am not willing to do that just for this. I will replay the whole game as a killing machine before that. Lots of sneaking around and waiting when playing full stealth, reminds me of the first Tenchu. Thanks, though. ---
**Author:** ![Enilno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58f4c7/32.png) [@Enilno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enilno)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/286 "2011-10-10T20:19:35Z")
The laser rifle is very effective on that fight since you can shoot with pretty good accuracy while behind cover. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/287 "2011-10-11T01:43:28Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > Even if they did have a boss where you were forced into a throwdown with (hey, it can happen), it would be nice if there was a damn good explanation. I honestly consider the REAL bosses of the games to be the “talkdowns” where you either persuade them to agree with you… or say “we’re done here” and shoot them in the face. 100% agreed. Only one out of the 4 fighting bosses had any backstory and even she felt misplaced at the end. The talkdowns were awesome. Some of them were tragically moving, like Darrow’s, and my favourite, the conversation with the rogue belltower merc, actually ended up with me being persuaded by him and sad that I slaughtered so many of his old collegues. Storywise, I loved it, all main characters were well-developed and multidimensional. Sarif, Taggart, Reed, The anti-aug twins, Darrow, Windmill, Kassan, Pritchard or Flygirl all had their own values, flaws and motivations, like real people. Zhao was a bit mahahaha-evil, but there are people in the world who would make the choices she made, if they were availible. so she too is interesting, especially if you read the emails and listen to the interviews. > [@RandMcnally](#): > > I had a very easy time with all of the boss fights, except for the last one (seriously, what the fuck was that about?). Use the laser rifle, that fight took me less than a minute. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/288 "2011-10-11T03:32:19Z")
> [@Inthewater](#): > > That is quite a while back, I am not willing to do that just for this. > > I will replay the whole game as a killing machine before that. > > Lots of sneaking around and waiting when playing full stealth, reminds me of the first Tenchu. > > Thanks, though. Saw a YouTube video where the player just punched him out in one shot. Apparently there’s a part of his climbing animation where he is vulnerable to takedowns. Dunno whether the biochip thing disables takedowns as well though. ETA: [here ya go](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v1X5F0d58I) ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/289 "2011-10-11T12:58:49Z")
Thanks for the tips. I went back and grabbed the laser. There is also another laser and ammo in one of the statue stands in the room. I just ran a few corners and waited, then zapped him when I could see him messing around. Every other time or so, the turret would see me hit him and attack for extra damage. On to the next area. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/290 "2011-10-11T15:07:17Z")
There’s a really cheap way to take out the third aug boss anyway: If you’ve got the see-through-walls augment, turn it on, then, when he climbs a wall, run up behind him and melee take-down. End of fight. ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/291 "2011-10-11T15:30:37Z")
yeah, I saw that all over, but your augs need to be working, right? Anyway, I wanted to beat his ass at least somewhat honestly. Laser to the face did the trick. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/292 "2011-10-16T19:29:07Z")
I finally beat this! And I have to say, the first boss was the hardest by far. The third was giving me a headache until I did a last-minute Typhoon aug upgrade – he died with just two Typhoon blasts. I really enjoyed it – the storyline, dialogue, graphics, game play, sound track, voice acting, world building, etc.etc.etc. were all excellent. Are the other Deus Ex games just as good? It also reminded me of a grown-up Alpha Protocol. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/293 "2011-10-16T19:37:14Z")
> [@gallows\_fodder](#): > > I finally beat this! And I have to say, the first boss was the hardest by far. The third was giving me a headache until I did a last-minute Typhoon aug upgrade – he died with just two Typhoon blasts. > > I really enjoyed it – the storyline, dialogue, graphics, game play, sound track, voice acting, world building, etc.etc.etc. were all excellent. Are the other Deus Ex games just as good? > > It also reminded me of a grown-up Alpha Protocol. The first Deus Ex game is better (often considered the best game ever), at least story wise. The gameplay and graphics have aged a fair amount. The second game sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/294 "2011-10-17T19:24:23Z")
Did anyone watch the credits all the way through and get the achievement? If so, what do you think that means about a follow up game, or was it just for fun? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/295 "2011-10-17T22:31:33Z")
It’s a wink to the original game, not the next one. Basically it means that no matter what you choose, Deus Ex will happen because the MIBs will have hold of your girlfriend to design augs for them. ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/296 "2011-10-18T13:06:39Z")
Ahh, sadly I have never played Deus Ex. At the time it came out, I did not have a system that could play it and had a bit of trouble finding a copy in the early '00s. Is it worth a play, even today, or will the dated graphics make you want to dig your eyeballs out? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/297 "2011-10-18T16:04:14Z")
The dated graphics have been updated by fans (at least the textures have)… but they still kinda make you want to claw your eyes out. It’s still absolutely worth a play - one of the best games ever designed IMO. Besides, you can probably find it for 5 bucks or less these days - not a huge waste if it turns out you can’t get over the blocky 3D. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/298 "2011-10-18T17:51:10Z")
1999 and 2000 had some incredible releases. The graphics are certainly dated, but Deus Ex, Thief 2, and System Shock 2 are all certainly worth checking out. (Thief 1 was 1998, and is a fine game too, though I prefer the second.) It was a good time to have free time to piss away in college. Deus Ex 2 wasn’t as horrible as its reputation might lead you to believe, but it certainly isn’t as good as the original. It was clearly moving toward the console shooters of today. It’s transitional and doesn’t do a good job of being either a PC RPG/action game or a console action/RPG. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/299 "2011-10-19T02:45:14Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > 1999 and 2000 had some incredible releases. The graphics are certainly dated, but Deus Ex, Thief 2, and System Shock 2 are all certainly worth checking out. (Thief 1 was 1998, and is a fine game too, though I prefer the second.) It was a good time to have free time to piss away in college. > Deus Ex 2 wasn’t as horrible as its reputation might lead you to believe, but it certainly isn’t as good as the original. It was clearly moving toward the console shooters of today. It’s transitional and doesn’t do a good job of being either a PC RPG/action game or a console action/RPG. Myth 2 and Starcraft were 1998 too. Damn. It’s possible we’re just being nostalgic. This sounds like “all the music today is crap.” ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/300 "2011-10-19T03:02:30Z")
No, games really were clearly better then relative to what the technology level allowed, and they were also designed less to be copycats of basic, stupid shit dumbed down for a mass audience. Games were far more ambitious. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678.md?page=16)