# Deus Ex: Human Revolution **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 28, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678 "2011-07-28T23:12:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/321 "2011-10-28T04:56:44Z")
It’s not that hard, though you have to be methodical, precise, thorough, and just a bit lucky. There’s a “circuit” that’s really efficient for this, you basically want to run into the building on the right ASAP, stun gun the first guy you see, then take down the next couple on the outside, run up the stairs, take down the guys up there, throw an EMP grenade down to the bottom, WAIT for explosion (you may have to pot shot an elite trooper to prevent him from getting killed in the explosion), then QUICKLY drop down to the lower level, run up the stairs in the building across the way, take down the guy up there, and then finally use the sniper tranq gun to take down the guy on the upper level of the building you were just on. It requires a little luck because if the enemies move a certain way, there are times you can get double takedowns and make yourself more efficient, you also can get lucky with enemies missing or not noticing you, and therefore have to worry less about popping pills. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/322 "2011-10-28T23:55:10Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > I saved Malik even on No-lube mode with mostly the tranq rifle. I \*really \*really hope you mean no-aug ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/323 "2011-10-29T02:58:30Z")
> [@Namkcalb](#): > > I \*really \*really hope you mean no-aug Pretty sure he’s using no-lube to refer to “give me Deus Ex” mode. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/324 "2011-10-29T04:56:23Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Pretty sure he’s using no-lube to refer to “give me Deus Ex” mode. Yes, I apologize if I went too blue for the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Aghris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@Aghris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aghris)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/325 "2011-10-29T15:03:54Z")
Crap. I finished today but didn’t get my Pacifist achievement. I must have killed somebody along the way that I didn’t notice. Or do the mooks at the final boss fight count? I thought bosses didn’t count towards the no-kill limit, but maybe it’s only the bosses themselves? I now feel especially low that I couldn’t even kill someone to save my pilot. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/326 "2011-10-29T17:51:37Z")
Pretty sure the mooks in the final fight count, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/327 "2011-11-02T03:34:00Z")
> [@Aghris](#): > > Crap. I finished today but didn’t get my Pacifist achievement. I must have killed somebody along the way that I didn’t notice. Or do the mooks at the final boss fight count? I thought bosses didn’t count towards the no-kill limit, but maybe it’s only the bosses themselves? > > I now feel especially low that I couldn’t even kill someone to save my pilot. The mooks in the tutorial count as well ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/328 "2011-11-02T16:52:01Z")
> [@Namkcalb](#): > > The mooks in the tutorial count as well Well crap on toast. This must be where I screwed up. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/329 "2011-11-03T01:58:50Z")
Interestingly, it looks like Eidos is responsible for the terrible boss battles. They did farm it out, but the third-party dev did what Eidos told them to do, and Eidos admits this. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/113995-Eidos-Cops-to-Weak-Deus-Ex-Boss-Fights](http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/113995-Eidos-Cops-to-Weak-Deus-Ex-Boss-Fights) ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/330 "2011-11-03T02:09:29Z")
I respect that they acknowledge the errors and know exactly why they were wrong. Maybe we’ll get another game out of it with it all done right. Or just a ton more DLC. I’d be fine with that too. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/332 "2011-11-03T10:21:05Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I respect that they acknowledge the errors and know exactly why they were wrong. Maybe we’ll get another game out of it with it all done right. Or just a ton more DLC. I’d be fine with that too. The boss fight at the end of the DLC was excellent. It was challenging without using shortcuts like jacking up the boss health. I especially liked that you could do it in many ways, [ul] [li]Sneak up to him and take him H2H.[/li][li]Break into his office hours earlier and steal his suped-up handcannon.[/li][li]Assemble a rocket launcher, and blast him from across the room in one shot.[/li][/ul] etc. > [@confinedspacerescue](#): > > Deus Ex is an action role-playing game developed by Ion Storm Inc. and published by Eidos Interactive in 2000, which combines game play elements of first-person shooters with those of role-playing video games. Its the best industrial service provider for gaming. I for one welcome our new robot overlords ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/333 "2011-11-03T11:40:06Z")
Spam post reported. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/334 "2011-11-03T13:16:32Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Spam post reported. Thanks. Deleted. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/335 "2011-11-06T07:52:42Z")
Also deleted spam link in **Namkcalb** ’s quote of the spam post. - Gukumatz, GR & IMHO Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/336 "2011-11-27T16:33:17Z")
Finally finished this game, after a slow start I liked it enough to consider buying the DLC extra mission, _(The Missing Link)_ Can anyone tell me how large a download it is? I’m on a 10 GB limit per month on my broadband, which is usually more than sufficient for my needs but I don’t want to overrun it. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/337 "2011-11-27T19:50:55Z")
To those not getting the pacifist achievement despite not (knowingly) killing anyone: The tranquilliser rifle can kill. I didn’t get it on my first play through either. On my second play through I only used my fists and stun gun, got it (still didn’t get the alarm achievement though, I thought I was being extra careful). **The tranq rifle can kill!** ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/338 "2011-11-27T21:51:15Z")
> [@MJinks](#): > > To those not getting the pacifist achievement despite not (knowingly) killing anyone: The tranquilliser rifle can kill. > > I didn’t get it on my first play through either. On my second play through I only used my fists and stun gun, got it (still didn’t get the alarm achievement though, I thought I was being extra careful). > > **The tranq rifle can kill!** Are you sure? Maybe you killed someone on accident? ---
**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/339 "2011-11-28T00:24:00Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Are you sure? Maybe you killed someone on accident? If it was just me then I’d agree with you but a lot of people were reporting the same thing. However, there are also people saying it’s just a visual glitch and they don’t really count against the achievement… It’s all rather confusing but one consensus does seem to be that as long as you still get the ‘Merciful Soul’ bonus at the end of missions then you’re OK. There is a [little FAQ](http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/deus-ex-human-revolution/121919-pacifist-foxiest-hounds-faq.html) on the PS3Trophies website that tries to clarify things. I’m inspired to finally get that Foxiest of the Hounds achievement now though… Wish me luck (third time lucky!). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/340 "2011-11-28T03:01:45Z")
> [@MJinks](#): > > **The tranq rifle can kill!** I found that it would reliably kill one of the gangsters that hangs out near the entrance to the alley where you need to find the weapon stash. Just that one guy. But he can be taken out with other non-lethal methods that are less convenient. I guess he’s got a script attacked to him that says to go dead if hit with a tranq rifle. Otherwise, I haven’t seen the tranq rifle kill, though I recall reading a rumor that it can kill if you hit the victim in the head. I couldn’t say, because I tend to avoid doing so. Any other such bugs anybody has to report? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678.md?page=16)