# Deus Ex: Human Revolution **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 28, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678 "2011-07-28T23:12:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/121 "2011-08-25T22:12:12Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > New patch out with a huge decrease in loading times. How do I tell if I got this? I bought it through Steam. It says it’s set to automatically download new updates, but I can’t see anywhere to see if it actually did it. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/122 "2011-08-25T22:16:21Z")
It should have done it already, i think. Sorry, i am not sure how you can actually check. ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/123 "2011-08-25T23:45:12Z")
Doesn’t Amazon have a release-date delivery for preordered games? I know the last two or three games I’ve preordered from them were delivered on release day. I’m surprised they didn’t do that for a major game such as this. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/124 "2011-08-26T01:32:33Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > Doesn’t Amazon have a release-date delivery for preordered games? I know the last two or three games I’ve preordered from them were delivered on release day. I’m surprised they didn’t do that for a major game such as this. I first ordered it on Amazon before I saw that Steam had it for cheaper. They definitely had same-day delivery for pre-orders. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/125 "2011-08-26T01:37:03Z")
If I go to my apartment and drop some weapons, will they still be there? I just found the sniper rifle and it’s huge but I only have 3 rounds for it. ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/126 "2011-08-26T02:08:35Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > If I go to my apartment and drop some weapons, will they still be there? I just found the sniper rifle and it’s huge but I only have 3 rounds for it. I haven’t gotten too far into the game yet, but I haven’t had any dropped items disappear on me, even stuff I’ve stashed in the corner of a dark alley. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/127 "2011-08-26T02:31:13Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > If I go to my apartment and drop some weapons, will they still be there? I just found the sniper rifle and it’s huge but I only have 3 rounds for it. They did while i was in Detroit, but then you go somewhere else and i am not sure if you get to come back. I would imagine you do since you work there. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/128 "2011-08-26T05:24:51Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > Jragon, I did the same thing with the first boss. I was a bit mystified, as the reviews I’d read up to now complained that you never have a choice in the boss fights. Clearly, they just suck at virtual social interaction 🙂 In fact, there’s an achievement for it – what are these reviewers smoking? Nope, looks like that guy just didn’t qualify as a boss. Seriously, first boss: walk in room, see cutscene, get shot at. I was playing stealth and nokill so I had no lethal weapons, so I have to find the ones scattered about the room. Unfortunately, he hits really frickin hard too. It’s kind of bullshit, I’ve been a flawless infiltrator and then they’re like “lolkillguy.” I guess that’s why the nokill achievement excludes bosses. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/129 "2011-08-26T13:25:35Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > I was playing stealth and nokill so I had no lethal weapons, so I have to find the ones scattered about the room. Unfortunately, he hits really frickin hard too. It’s kind of bullshit, I’ve been a flawless infiltrator and then they’re like “lolkillguy.” I guess that’s why the nokill achievement excludes bosses. To be fair, those particular individuals are exceptional, posess the resources to isolate you for a mano-a-mano grudge match, and have every reason to use lethal force on you. I do wish they’d included paths to just ignore those people, but c’est la vie. Even in the original Deus Ex, most bosses were mandatory. Nokill runs used glitches to evade. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/130 "2011-08-26T14:07:26Z")
Speaking of the first boss, how did you guys beat him? Dude packs a punch! I tried staying in cover and sprinting for more cover when he got close while taking shots at him with my combat rifle. But he usually take me down to 10-40 health while I run for cover (dude does not miss). Any tips? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/131 "2011-08-26T14:34:29Z")
I tossed a grenade at him and it stunned him for a few seconds, then I unloaded a full clip at his face. There are toxic gas canisters around the room you can throw at him and shoot mid air that will stun him also. Shooting him while he’s stunned is the only way I could win, he doesn’t seem to need to ever reload and does a ton of damage. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/132 "2011-08-26T15:07:48Z")
Oooh, EMP grenades. I’ve got one of those. I also had a gas grenade but I had to use that on a couple of guys watching TV I just couldn’t get around. “Oh man, did you let loose one?” “Wasn’t me!” “Pig! Man… if I wasn’t feelin so sleepy I’d kick your assssss…” ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/133 "2011-08-26T15:32:53Z")
I blew him away with the rocket launcher I found in the room off of the area with the big walking robot tank thing. It took that, and a couple grenades, and about 5 reloads, but I did it! ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/134 "2011-08-26T17:20:31Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > Speaking of the first boss, how did you guys beat him? > > Dude packs a punch! > > I tried staying in cover and sprinting for more cover when he got close while taking shots at him with my combat rifle. But he usually take me down to 10-40 health while I run for cover (dude does not miss). > > Any tips? Stay behind the pillar on the right side of the room on the side you enter, take pot shots at hit. When he gets to close, stun him (grenade, stun gun), take a few pot shots at his head, and run to the far side of the room (staying on the right). If he uses a grenade and it gets on the side of the pillar you are, stun gun him and run prematurely. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/135 "2011-08-26T23:08:53Z")
Really enjoying it so far- it looks good even on an older computer, the story is really interesting and engaging, and the world feels dynamic, fluid, and plausible. Glad to see the non-lethal option is back, too. I managed to get through the first level (the assembly plant one) entirely in a non-lethal capacity, but since there’s not enough ammo for the stun gun or tranquiliser rifle about, I’ve modified my style for the subsequent missions whereby the initial engagement is non-lethal, but if I get spotted and attacked, then the safety comes off and it’s live ammo time. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/136 "2011-08-27T00:31:28Z")
I love the little things like e-mails from Joseph Manderly, and I also came across the names Bob Page (well Page Industries, at least) and Walt Simmons. ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/137 "2011-08-27T00:50:32Z")
I love how the secretary in your building says something about your mirror not being ready yet in an annoyed voice. If you check your emails at home it becomes clear that you’ve been pestering them about it. Then if you hack the computer in the lobby you see an email From their supply warehouse saying that the mirror has been waiting there for weeks and if they don’t pick it up soon they’re going to send it back. Also, did anyone notice the heliplane thing Malik drives has a weird serial number? I think it’s 800-BEE (Boobie?) ---
**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/138 "2011-08-27T14:21:32Z")
I’ve a quick question, please forgive me if it’s already been mentioned but I desperately want to avoid spoilers… I’m going the non-lethal (mostly) pacifist route. Do I lose out on experience if I just avoid all the enemies as opposed to knocking them all out? ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/139 "2011-08-27T14:45:31Z")
> [@Athena](#): > > So I bought it and have been playing it. Like others have said, the gameplay still rocks, though the graphics are badly dated. That’s not a huge deal for me. > > What’s more weird is seeing how game mechanics have changed in 11 years. Things that struck me as oldschool: > > - When you die, you’re dead. You can hit ESC and get to the menu to reload your last save. Nowadays, most games assume you just want to reload your last save and either do it automatically or prompt you. > > - Inventory system involving a grid and when you pick stuff up, you gotta rearrange the grid to make it fit. > > - No way to preview items you haven’t picked up from what I can tell. Want to see if that new rifle is better than your old one, and don’t have room in inventory? Drop a pile of stuff, pick up gun, look at it, decide it sucks, drop it, re-pick up all your inventory. Blech. I’m spoiled not only by the ability to preview new items on most games, but a lot of them also put up your current item so you can easily compare. I’m aghast that the new version kept all of these things. The reload I can deal with, but I hate, hate, hate the inventory system. I feel like I’m playing Tetris when I want a new item, and it annoys me to no end that I can’t look at something without it being in inventory. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678/140 "2011-08-27T15:05:11Z")
> [@MJinks](#): > > I’ve a quick question, please forgive me if it’s already been mentioned but I desperately want to avoid spoilers… > > I’m going the non-lethal (mostly) pacifist route. Do I lose out on experience if I just avoid all the enemies as opposed to knocking them all out? Yeah, you would lose the exp from knocking them out. Playing stealthy gives you the ghost bonus when you manage to get through a level without being seen, and the smooth operator bonus when you get through without triggering an alarm (this one only works in missions that have alarms, so you don’t get it as oftem). It’s 50 exp per manual take down and i believe 30 for using a stun gun or tranq rifle, which is really not a big deal if you want to play that way. It would take skipping 100 baddies to miss out on a single praxis point, and you get plenty of them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-human-revolution/590678.md?page=8)