# Deus Ex: Mankind Divided **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368 "2016-08-10T18:11:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/41 "2016-08-25T16:49:14Z")
I have had 2 crashes while playing, but nothing like what Smapti is seeing. While I have not used one yet, it is nice to see the multi-tool back. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/42 "2016-08-25T17:24:43Z")
Hopefully the spoilers in this thread will remain boxed, because I’m eyeing this game with interest. One of the reviews I read said that the game gets way too easy way too quickly. If anybody could comment on the power curve (once they’ve gotten a ways in) I’d be interested in hearing opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/43 "2016-08-25T17:49:27Z")
I’m a bit irritated at this bullshit with the consumables on the pre-order. In brief, without mentioning it to anybody, the pre-order bonus items in what was called the Covert Agent Pack would only apply to the first playthrough in which you used them – praxis points, ammo, ect. The non-consumables such as weapons or outfits would appear for each playthrough. Here’s from their [official statement](http://www.pcgamer.com/deus-ex-mankind-divideds-pc-port-suffers-technical-issues-backlash-over-pre-order-bonuses-devs-working-on-fix/): > [@](#): > > Consumables (Praxis Kits, Ammo, Credits, Crafting Parts) are one-time use items. They will be in the storage section of your inventory, until you decide to add them to it. Once you do, they will be ‘consumed’ in your current playthrough, and not re-usable. Consumables work the way they do due to first party constraints. I don’t know what the fuck “third party constraints” means. But the actual reason is clear. They have a shop where you can buy consumables with real cash money, and these apparently apply only to one playthrough. They didn’t announce anywhere that I saw that they would have a store featuring one-time cash purchases before the game was released, and I assume that was because it would have a depressive effect on pre-orders. Googling around, it seems that nobody knew about this before the game actually released. I’m guessing the reviewers weren’t given that option when they were allowed to play through, because nobody seemed to mention it. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/44 "2016-08-25T18:33:39Z")
I currently have 10 praxis points and can’t imagine paying cash money for more of them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/45 "2016-08-25T21:31:58Z")
Having now completed the Ritual of Verifying the Cache, consulting the Tomes of Customer Support, and reciting the Litany of Frustration With This Damned Machine, I have learned that a lot of people were having this problem when they played the tutorial mini-games, and that skipping them prevents the glitches from happening. Sure enough, I restarted, skipped the tutorials (which I didn’t really need anyway), and the missing walls were now intact. ---
**Author:** ![aliensshow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@aliensshow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aliensshow)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/46 "2016-08-25T21:52:06Z")
All the usual SJW reviewers were hysterically angry about the story, so I of course bought it right away, and am enjoying it mostly. The performance is terrible though. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/47 "2016-08-25T23:12:10Z")
Does anyone understand how remote hacking is supposed to work? Because I do not get what I am supposed to do. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/48 "2016-08-26T02:27:38Z")
> [@aliensshow](#): > > All the usual SJW reviewers were hysterically angry HAW HAW HAW > [@](#): > > about the story, so I of course bought it right away What a capital way to make buying decisions! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/49 "2016-08-27T02:23:32Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > HAW HAW HAW > > What a capital way to make buying decisions! If I have to take sides, I’m with the SJWs. I can’t afford to buy everything the Legion of Douche gets douchey about, but it’s a factor in my buying decisions as well. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/50 "2016-08-27T02:26:03Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > If I have to take sides, I’m with the SJWs. I can’t afford to buy everything the Legion of Douche gets douchey about, but it’s a factor in my buying decisions as well. Sure. I admit that the hot bitter tears of MRA were a lovely seasoning to the awesomeness of Fury Road. But I certainly wouldn’t go see a movie just because MRAs were sad about it, if I didn’t otherwise really want to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/51 "2016-08-27T03:18:22Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Sure. I admit that the hot bitter tears of MRA were a lovely seasoning to the awesomeness of Fury Road. But I certainly wouldn’t go see a movie just because MRAs were sad about it, if I didn’t otherwise really want to see it. Yeah, I didn’t go see Ghostbusters because it didn’t look like the sort of movie I’d be into. Also, this game has some… stability issues. I really love it, and it was totally stable until act 2. Now certain areas of the town sometimes get “corrupted” and if I go there the game will hard CTD. I can fix the area by going on the subway to another part of town (loooong loading times) and then coming back, but it’s only a temporary fix and eventually will be back to CTDing. It’s really killing my desire to finish the game, even though it looks like I’m almost done with all the second act sidequests. ---
**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/52 "2016-08-27T22:49:35Z")
> [@aliensshow](#): > > All the usual SJW reviewers were hysterically angry about the story, so I of course bought it right away, and am enjoying it mostly. The performance is terrible though. Jim Sterling, of the Jimquisiton, who has made no bones about his, for want of a better phrase SJW credentials loved the game. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/53 "2016-08-27T23:02:23Z")
Why were they angry about the story? spoiler the answer if needed. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/54 "2016-08-27T23:25:00Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Why were they angry about the story? spoiler the answer if needed. I haven’t played very far into the game yet, but I’m guessing the posters around Prague reading “AUG LIVES MATTER” and “ALL LIVES MATTER” ruffled some feathers. ---
**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/55 "2016-08-27T23:32:38Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Why were they angry about the story? spoiler the answer if needed. The story tries to riff on Black lives matter, but it’s pretty clumsily done. A few people online offered mild criticism. That’s it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/56 "2016-08-28T00:28:31Z")
> [@DeptfordX](#): > > The story tries to riff on Black lives matter, but it’s pretty clumsily done. > > A few people online offered mild criticism. > > That’s it. That’s it? That’s it?! It was HYSTERICAL!!! ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/57 "2016-08-28T01:18:50Z")
Though the developer has said that they made those assets before BLM was really a thing, who knows if they’re telling the truth (and whether they should’ve removed them after BLM became a thing is still a question). ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/58 "2016-08-28T01:59:18Z")
I think it is easier to see the game more as a parallel to the persecution of Jews in WWII Europe than BLM. I mean a Prague ghetto called Golem? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/59 "2016-08-28T02:13:43Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I think it is easier to see the game more as a parallel to the persecution of Jews in WWII Europe than BLM. I mean a Prague ghetto called Golem? There’s a minor character in Prague you can interact with on a sidequest who’s memorized _R.U.R._, which was also a nice little shout-out. ---
**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368/60 "2016-08-28T09:45:40Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > That’s it? That’s it?! It was HYSTERICAL!!! Measured criticism, which is what actually occured, is not HYSTERICAL!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deus-ex-mankind-divided/762368.md?page=4)